Around the NHL XLI: Let Us Never Again Speak of Last Season

[NickyFotiu]

It is. I've asked HoH to weigh in on what I think are the two interesting questions. Who ranks higher, Stevens or Keith? And, will history treat this generation of D as well is it treated the 80s-90s generation? Here's the thread I put up: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=122410425#post122410425

Thanks for the link.. I will check it out.

 

[haohmaru]

Thanks for the link.. I will check it out.

Most, if not all, have said Stevens > Keith but it's getting close.

I didn't realize 'til I read through that that Keith is THIRTY THREE? How the hell did that happen? Man, time is flying.

 

[silverfish]

Marchand got paid. I suspect this deal will be 3 years of good value, 2 years of... value, and 3 years of "oh my god, what did we do" value.



EDIT - also important to keep in mind that Marchand still has a year left on his old deal. This 8 year deal kicks in when he's 29.

Oof.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Marchand got paid. I suspect this deal will be 3 years of good value, 2 years of... value, and 3 years of "oh my god, what did we do" value.

Crazy deal. Sorry, but by year 4 he will be on a monster decline the way he plays.

 

[haohmaru]

Marchand got paid. I suspect this deal will be 3 years of good value, 2 years of... value, and 3 years of "oh my god, what did we do" value.



EDIT - also important to keep in mind that Marchand still has a year left on his old deal. This 8 year deal kicks in when he's 29.

Oof.

Glen Sather working behind the scenes in Boston, IMHO

 

[Boruto]

This is the one great thing about never having any high performers on our team. Always staying around 60 points. Never have to doll out those massive breakout year contracts.

 

[NickyFotiu]

This is the one great thing about never having any high performers on our team. Always staying around 60 points. Never have to doll out those massive breakout year contracts.

Didn't Marchand just have a career high of 61 points?

 

[Boruto]

Didn't Marchand just have a career high of 61 points?

37 goals in 77 games. Not too shabby but I doubt he nets 40 in 82. the 8 years is brutal.

 

[silverfish]

37 goals in 77 games. Not too shabby but I doubt he nets 40 in 82. the 8 years is brutal.

$6m is fair value. 8 years is a tragedy. Unfortunately, you don't get one without the other.

 

[NickyFotiu]

37 goals in 77 games. Not too shabby but I doubt he nets 40 in 82. the 8 years is brutal.

He had a very good year and he is a good player but 61 points was still his career high so as you pointed out this contract may end up looking bad down the road. Right now cost controlled guys are becoming very valuable.

 

[NYRKING30]

If you play in the top 9, or top 4, your pretty much locked into a 4 year contract at minimum now. Top 6? 6-8 years. Next CBA is surelyyyy going to be fun. I'd be shocked if they didn't use the opt out clause after year 8.

 

[NYR Viper]

Gaborik out 8 weeks with a foot injury sustained playing in the World Cup.

 

[Machinehead]

It is. I've asked HoH to weigh in on what I think are the two interesting questions. Who ranks higher, Stevens or Keith? And, will history treat this generation of D as well is it treated the 80s-90s generation? Here's the thread I put up: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=122410425#post122410425

Consensus seems to be that's it's pretty close

 

[I Eat Crow]

If you play in the top 9, or top 4, your pretty much locked into a 4 year contract at minimum now. Top 6? 6-8 years. Next CBA is surelyyyy going to be fun. I'd be shocked if they didn't use the opt out clause after year 8.

Absolutely. Hope everyone is ready for another lockout. These contracts to merely above average players are ludicrous.

 

[Tawnos]

Consensus seems to be that's it's pretty close

Well, the overall consensus seems to be that he's approaching Stevens, but hasn't yet surpassed him.

More uncertain about the generations.

Thing is, when you look at your original statement of top-15, some people are saying he might get there but has to do more. All of us casually interested in history forget about guys like Sprague Cleghorn. I'd have to think it's a tough group.

 

[TheTakedown]

Absolutely. Hope everyone is ready for another lockout. These contracts to merely above average players are ludicrous.

They'll just extend the term limit to 10 years.... Longer term and lower AAV will ease the burden on teams. Buyouts need to become more usable later on too--they might have to modify the compliance buyout rules

 

[aufheben]

Season didn't even start yet and Andrew Shaw already has a hearing.

 

[TheGuarantee]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2131725

 

[Boruto]

I wonder what kind of a return Toews can fetch with his intangibles despite the great but not elite numbers. I meant that as a serious question with no facetious tone at all. Just came out that way.

 

[aufheben]

Next one up: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2132113