Armchair GM Thread LXXXVIII: The Kassian Effect

[Taelin]

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[PG Canuck]

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I honestly don't mind it, for now. Move Frankie up the lineup, and have Weber back in over Stanton/Sbisa. Or call up Biega or Sanguinetti.

 

[VC]

With Corrado already, there is still 2 options with the Comets to get a look. Its not like Bieksa was playing stellar prior to his injury either. Trading for an injury replacement is very Nonis like. Those kind of trades (along with the draft/player development) are the reason why the Canucks are in the position they are today.

 

[PG Canuck]

With Corrado already, there is still 2 options with the Comets to get a look. Its not like Bieksa was playing stellar prior to his injury either. Trading for an injury replacement is very Nonis like. Those kind of trades (along with the draft/player development) are the reason why the Canucks are in the position they are today.

Yup. Benning has said he wants to keep picks, and to replace what Bieksa was bringing, would just use up a draft pick. Promote from within, especially to those that deserve a promotion in Corrado, Biega, and Sanguinetti.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

@ me (sorry can't quote old thread)

I don't see why that would be the price... When looking at the Draft that just happened that would be both 1sts for a guy in the same Draft class as our 1st anyways... plus they were high on McCann if I'm not mistaken... Kassian is an NHL ready player...

I look at it as trading Kassian to trade up with our 20th pic... and hockey trade wise it works IMO

 

[Based Crane]

I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't mind looking at Dallas as a trading partner. They have a couple young forwards (not their star players) that I would love to get my hands on. My only concern would be that it could lead to a Vey perception of being gifted a spot on the roster, but Willie probably has a good idea about who is ready for NHL duty from the Texas Stars. Any thoughts?

 

[PG Canuck]

I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't mind looking at Dallas as a trading partner. They have a couple young forwards (not their star players) that I would love to get my hands on. My only concern would be that it could lead to a Vey perception of being gifted a spot on the roster, but Willie probably has a good idea about who is ready for NHL duty from the Texas Stars. Any thoughts?

What players are you thinking about? Just curious.

 

[Blob Mckenzie*]

@ me (sorry can't quote old thread)

I don't see why that would be the price... When looking at the Draft that just happened that would be both 1sts for a guy in the same Draft class as our 1st anyways... plus they were high on McCann if I'm not mistaken... Kassian is an NHL ready player...

I look at it as trading Kassian to trade up with our 20th pic... and hockey trade wise it works IMO

Yeah that's not so bad, but Virtanen and McCann for Nylander is pure lunacy.

 

[Taelin]

I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't mind looking at Dallas as a trading partner. They have a couple young forwards (not their star players) that I would love to get my hands on. My only concern would be that it could lead to a Vey perception of being gifted a spot on the roster, but Willie probably has a good idea about who is ready for NHL duty from the Texas Stars. Any thoughts?

A coach shouldn't be concerned with these things anyway.

 

[Based Crane]

What players are you thinking about? Just curious.

In particular I like Curtis Mckenzie for a few reasons. He's just decent size, put up good numbers in the AHL, willing to stand up for his team mates, and the added bonus of being from BC. The other is more of a long shot, but I really Like Brett Ritchie as well in the big power forward role. That's just my opinion though.

 

[Virtanen2Horvat]

Glad to see Benning doesn't panic and cares about the future.

 

[racerjoe]

I honestly don't mind it, for now. Move Frankie up the lineup, and have Weber back in over Stanton/Sbisa. Or call up Biega or Sanguinetti.

I really hope weber is in, Sbisa on the right doesn't work, and I am not sure why Willie doesn't seem to see it.

 

[PG Canuck]

I really hope weber is in, Sbisa on the right doesn't work, and I am not sure why Willie doesn't seem to see it.

Weber is also just better than Sbisa, so that alone does it for me.

 

[Archangel]

we need to figure out what is wrong with Kassian--there is just so much there

 

[y2kcanucks]

I'd like to see Sanguinetti get a call up and see what he can do. PMD who's been solid in the AHL. Former first round pick. Worth at least a look.

 

[racerjoe]

Weber is also just better than Sbisa, so that alone does it for me.

They are both depth guys, but I do like the puck moving from weber. He is a total gambler.

 

[PG Canuck]

They are both depth guys, but I do like the puck moving from weber. He is a total gambler.

Can play on the PP if need be too.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I have no problem with Benning saying they will run with Corrado etc. rather than going out and finding a replacement for Bieksa. Corrado deserves a chance to show what he can provide at the NHL level, and it's not as if Bieksa was setting the world on fire. The team will miss his leadership/toughness, but they're unlikely to replace that anyway. Besides, even if Benning does decide he needs to replace Bieksa externally, he's not going to come out and say it.

 

[Win One Before I Die]

I have no problem with Benning saying they will run with Corrado etc. rather than going out and finding a replacement for Bieksa. Corrado deserves a chance to show what he can provide at the NHL level, and it's not as if Bieksa was setting the world on fire. The team will miss his leadership/toughness, but they're unlikely to replace that anyway. Besides, even if Benning does decide he needs to replace Bieksa externally, he's not going to come out and say it.

Is there really a reason to replace him on a non stanley cup team?

 

[Tobi Wan Kenobi]

I'd like to see Sanguinetti get a call up and see what he can do. PMD who's been solid in the AHL. Former first round pick. Worth at least a look.

Yeah from the reports he's been one of the best dmen in the AHL. I'd like to see this when healthy:

Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Corrado
Sanguinetti Bieksa

But it'll never happen

 

[PG Canuck]

I have no problem with Benning saying they will run with Corrado etc. rather than going out and finding a replacement for Bieksa. Corrado deserves a chance to show what he can provide at the NHL level, and it's not as if Bieksa was setting the world on fire. The team will miss his leadership/toughness, but they're unlikely to replace that anyway. Besides, even if Benning does decide he needs to replace Bieksa externally, he's not going to come out and say it.

Agree with this. Things would be a lot different if Bieksa were playing tough, top four minutes, however, he isn't playing those kind of minutes, and while he is hurt his minutes can be distributed evenly among committee, or even just replaced entirely by Corrado.

I'd like to see promotion from within the organization before we go searching for a replacement, and giving up assets, whether it's a measly pick or not.

 

[PG Canuck]

Is there really a reason to replace him on a non stanley cup team?

We're battling for a playoff spot, Benning isn't going to just not try to make us better as we go along. I think it would send a terrible message to the players on the ice if Benning weren't looking to improve at the right costs to possibly help for the playoffs.

We want a winning atmosphere and mentality around this team, especially with rookies like Horvat, Vey and Corrado around, don't we? We may not win the Cup, but you have to put forth an effort because crazier things have happened in the playoffs.

 

[oceanchild]

Remember the good old days when we always has players "injured" until the start of the playoffs allowing us to go over the Cap and have a loaded roster... Now we pine over Kassian and if we will develop.. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I miss Gillis.

 

[Tv9924]

Remember the good old days when we always has players "injured" until the start of the playoffs allowing us to go over the Cap and have a loaded roster... Now we pine over Kassian and if we will develop.. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I miss Gillis.

Yup, I had just gotten interested in the NHL in the 09-10 season, I don't think I was able to fully appreciate that 2011 team.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I honestly don't mind it, for now. Move Frankie up the lineup, and have Weber back in over Stanton/Sbisa. Or call up Biega or Sanguinetti.

While I agree initially. Unless Biega or Sanguinetti light the world on fire, we're going to need someone a whole lot better. What concerns me about Benning is he seems to have no idea about cost. We are rumored to be after a top six forward, yet he won't part with picks/prospects. Hate to break it to him but Zack Kassian isn't getting us jack ****.