I don't disagree in principle, but keep in mind that after we see how it plays out, we might not be talking about 8 mil per for KJ, allowing that he could earn a center spot and really excel.
Not to mention I'm sure their agents know the cap is about to rise and will push for more as well. If he has a 70pt+ season 8M might not get it done.
You're arguing a strawman here, to take a leaf out of Viqsi's logical fallacy handbook. No one said anything about not having a solid 2C. All BB88 said was "If Fantilli becomes the franchise 1C then you pay him ( they’ll have the money) and you don’t need a superstar 2C. Because you’d have franchise C at 1C position and mix of Laine/Gaudreau/Johnson to play with that 2C." You decided that must mean that any non-superstar 2C must be no more than mediocre, which is explicitly not what they said. There is an ocean of difference between "superstar 2C" and "mediocrity beyond Fantilli up the middle."
Yes of course there is risk reward. It just seemed like we were only discussing the "whew" part of that, not the "whoa" part.
i would like a copy of "Viqsi's Logical Fallacy Handbook", sounds like an interesting read
I did go back and forth on characterizing this one as moving the goal posts or strawman depending on what I quoted. It's been a while since Phil 120: Logic.
Nah it's the same everywhere and there's always "risk" relating to contracts, whether you lock the young player ASAP or wait for them to show more. KJ seems the kind of player I'd usually be inclined to lock up sooner rather than later, mainly because 1) he seems a smart player who's not been reliant on any single "elite" physical attribute or skill and 2) because he already put up 40 points with under 15min ice time in a very poor team. So I think the floor is probably high enough to make it worth it to try to get him locked up before his value goes up in the hopes he reaches his potential or at least close enough to it.
Sure, there is some risk involved but if it pays off, then you save nice chunk of cap money you can then use to give horrible contracts to useless players
Funny thing is, I never took any classes; I was more or less just raised that way.
And if if if… something works out great? Or even good? Those are the questions. You can can fear failure all your life if you want, but GM’s with their staff try to take all things in consideration without fear of losing, because the goal is to be calculatingly aggressive and win.
Who’s in a rush? I may have missed some postings, but AFAIK no one has said that KJ should be offered that extension today. This coming season is the time to do it if he keeps progressing and showing those good traits that he has this far in his career. In that case he’s a homerun for 8m for multiple years.
As others have mentioned it is very risky reward type move. I understand not wanting to be risk adverse but by locking up KJ and others now those savings of a couple million dollars in the future could be the difference of keeping or enticing high quality depth players. It could be a huge competitive advantage over the course of the next decade to get a few core or if we're REALLY lucky a franchise player on a long term team friendly deals like that.
How many have suggested that we lock him up now? What is very soon? What are we arguing about? The sooner we sign him, the better. Hopefully before the end of season.
