Speculation: Armchair GM 2023-24 Season. If we can't say "Rebuild" what do we call it?

[Volica]

It's all irrelevant anyway since Lucky 9 will win us the lottery for Macklin.

It's funny, for me, if somehow the hockey gods smiled on Calgary and they won the 1OA; the feel for this club changes almost immediately.
Right now, I think the feeling is one of 'we're going to be bad for another 2-3 seasons' but man, with a Celebrini pick I really think that this changes directions in a hurry.

Of course this is all dependent on Celebrini; but I could see them turning this ship around quick with the vets they've kept on the roster. Reminder, this team was flirting with the wildcard for wayyyyyy too late in the season and things really only started sinking fast when Hanifin and Tanev found new homes.

 

[Ainsy01]

Well that lottery was disappointing.

Conroy can still make it a win by adding an early pick, and he has the tools.

Lots of guys are torn between picks at 9, rightfully so. I think the best thing for Conroy to do it make a move with Jersey and draft Catton and Iginla 9/10 (or whomever honestly). Seems like a win-win to get some serious talent in Catton and a feel-good-high-upside pick in Tij.

So Conroy takes Vancouver's pick (27-29) straps it to Markstrom and trades it to Jersey at 10. This way they dont have to retain salary and get the deal nixed.

Id also love to see them get creative with Coleman and send him to a team looking to take the next step like Ottawa or Utah (with Van's pick) and sneak into the top ten that way.

 

[joescores]

Sorry wrong thread but just beat team USA 5:4 OT. Pospi had 3 apples. Conroy should be ashamed of himself fleecing Martin with that crap 2×1 mil contract. Yet he paid Rooney (who?) 1.4 mil extension in 24/25. Man up Conroy and pay Martin extra bucks.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Pospisil currently leading the tournament in points and showcasing himself really well at center.. I honestly think he'd be a great fit for Huberdeau. Good speed. Great board play. Underrated skill.

 

[User1996]

Remember when Mangiapane had 7G in 7 GP at the WC and came back and had his monster 35 G season? Weegar was above a PPG at last year’s tournament and parlayed that into a monster year this year.

The success Pospisil is finding seems to bode pretty well for his sophomore year…

 

[Mobiandi]

I’m really disappointed that Huberdeau didn’t go. Even Dubois went

 

[Kranix]

I’m really disappointed that Huberdeau didn’t go. Even Dubois went

Huberdeau is getting a head start on training with the average joes at his hometown gym

 

[Backlund]

Sorry wrong thread but just beat team USA 5:4 OT. Pospi had 3 apples. Conroy should be ashamed of himself fleecing Martin with that crap 2×1 mil contract. Yet he paid Rooney (who?) 1.4 mil extension in 24/25. Man up Conroy and pay Martin extra bucks.

Do you not realize the entire point of RFA is to pay players less than they would get on the open market?

 

[joescores]

Do you not realize the entire point of RFA is to pay players less than they would get on the open market?

"Pay" is the key word in your eloquent comment.

 

[Ainsy01]

Flames need to move up in this draft. They have the tools.

Vancouvers first and a vet for something in the 9-15 range.

Catton / Iginla. Boom.

Hubby - Kadri - Sharangovich
Mangiapane - Backlund - Kuzmenko (Coleman is traded)
Pospisil - Catton - Coronoto
Pelletier - Honzek - Iginla

 

[Backlund]

"Pay" is the key word in your eloquent comment.

Does his contract being less than what you want him to get mean he doesn't get the money? What are you even trying to argue?

 

[joescores]

Does his contract being less than what you want him to get mean he doesn't get the money? What are you even trying to argue?

I am saying he is way too underpaid. What part of the message is difficult to process?

 

[Backlund]

I am saying he is way too underpaid. What part of the message is difficult to process?

Why do you care if he's underpaid? What a dumb thing to be upset over.

 

[Khrox]

I am saying he is way too underpaid.

1 mil a year for a guy who has 63 games of NHL experience and a total of 24 career points. He's having a good Worlds, but a mil a year for a guy of that experience is absolutely in line with what he should be making. He's an adequate pot-stirring middle six forward (at the top end) at best, and a good physical fourth liner who can pot a couple at worst.

 

[Volica]

Francis thinks we'll look at Duclair.
I could see it. This team'll add more guys with 1-2 year deals where they can to make more moves at the deadline

 

[Ricko Balboa]

Hey guys who do you think who will have more points per season between Zary and Coronato in the future? Asking for my pool

 

[Backlund]

Hey guys who do you think who will have more points per season between Zary and Coronato in the future? Asking for my pool

Coronato is more likely to end up the higher scorer but Zary is the safer pick for right now.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Hey guys who do you think who will have more points per season between Zary and Coronato in the future? Asking for my pool

Zary. Eventually Coronato winds up on his wing, then it's a wash. Until then, he'll likely out-produce him.

 

[JPeeper]

Hey guys who do you think who will have more points per season between Zary and Coronato in the future? Asking for my pool

Zary 100%

 

[Yepthatsme]

Hey guys who do you think who will have more points per season between Zary and Coronato in the future? Asking for my pool

Lots of recency bias here, Coronato is definitely the one with the higher offensive upside. His shot, offensive IQ, and puck hounding tendencies are all much better than Zary’s. He managed 1.03 points per game which led the Wranglers, with the next best player with atleast half the season played at 0.70. Zary managed 0.81 at the same age with two players well over point per game, despite not being a rookie at the pro level and being on a much more offensive team. Zary just showed better this season so a lot of people are placing more weight on that despite the age/experience difference the two have.

Coronato looks like he will be a top 6 RW goal scorer, who will be able to ride shotgun to some of the games best. Zary looks like more of a line driver and probably will end up playing the middle, but with less of an offensive impact. Relatively successful development would have Coronato around 25-30 goal, 60-65 point with potential for more being boosted by linemates, where I’d say Zary falls more around ~20 goal, 50-55 point centre who drives play.

 

[User1996]

Coronato looked REALLY good his last call-up

 

[Khrox]

Coronato scores more for sure, career wise. But he's still learning the pro-game and the struggles of being an every-day NHLer. I'd say for this upcoming season Zary outscores him, but by the season after it'll likely be Coronato

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Coronato scores more for sure, career wise. But he's still learning the pro-game and the struggles of being an every-day NHLer. I'd say for this upcoming season Zary outscores him, but by the season after it'll likely be Coronato

Pretty much my thoughts on the nose. Zary still has a good chance to be more productive, but I'm still quite bullish on Coronato.

 

[Potty John]

Reports out of Carolina possibly that Necas isn’t gettin resigned. That would be a huge pickup for us in free agency if true.

 

[Backlund]

Reports out of Carolina possibly that Necas isn’t gettin resigned. That would be a huge pickup for us in free agency if true.

He's still an RFA so he's not going to be cheap to acquire.