Trade: [ARI/NYG] Isaiah Simmons for 2024 7th round pick

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[StreetHawk]

Major hype for him coming out of Clemson. Size of a LB who ran 4.3X at the combine. Guess he never developed into what he was supposed to be. Could have been a S or LB depending on scheme. Someone to cover TE if he had coverage skills. Tall enough at 6’2 and faster than a TE. And like 230 odd lbs.

 

[GKJ]

Major hype for him coming out of Clemson. Size of a LB who ran 4.3X at the combine. Guess he never developed into what he was supposed to be. Could have been a S or LB depending on scheme. Someone to cover TE if he had coverage skills. Tall enough at 6’2 and faster than a TE. And like 230 odd lbs.

I don’t know all of how he was used given that it was the Cardinals, but it’s become a red flag to me when you draft someone who is an off-ball linebacker and can’t decide if he’s supposed to be a safety. Other way around is easier. They did the same with Zaven Collins and that didn’t work either, and you’re talking back to back 1st round picks.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I fell into the hype, I thought this guy would be great. I also thought Aaron Donald was too small to play DT at the time of his draft.

10/10 amateur scout here

 

[MMC]

People were overrating the living shit out of this guy pre-draft, never understood it

 

[StreetHawk]

People were overrating the living shit out of this guy pre-draft, never understood it

Physical measurable were off the charts. Kind of a rover at Clemson. Was he a S or LB more at Clemson?

 

[GKJ]

Physical measurable were off the charts. Kind of a rover at Clemson. Was he a S or LB more at Clemson?

He won the Butkus award in 2019 as the best linebacker.

 

[Troy McClure]

He won the Butkus award in 2019 as the best linebacker.

This is going to be an interesting test when it comes to how much coaching matters.

At the same time, the bar is now lower. For the Giants to come out winners, all they have to do is find a way to make him useful. The expectation isn't the same as in Arizona where his play was always going to be evaluated against his draft position.

 

[GKJ]

This is going to be an interesting test when it comes to how much coaching matters.

At the same time, the bar is now lower. For the Giants to come out winners, all they have to do is find a way to make him useful. The expectation isn't the same as in Arizona where his play was always going to be evaluated against his draft position.

Arizona has a new regime, so him being drafted too high isn’t their problem. Gannon doesn’t blitz very much, so the linebackers have to be able to tackle, cover, and run stop. It should’ve opened up opportunities in camp for him, and I guess he did.