Speculation: Are We Fans Being Set Up Again With Late Season Success?
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Get rid of Ference, Nikitin, Purcell and Schultz and get a real #1 goalie and I will be optimistic for next season.
s7ark
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Schultz hasn't been that bad since being asked to play a real system. I still think he can turn it around.
The rest of your post, I agree with 100%
It looks like these players want to play for Nelson. Big time. I really can't help but think that this team will turn the corner....soon.
They've won some pretty tight games against some very good teams, and have stayed in the game with most of these teams as well.
The only thing we are getting set up for is a developing team getting ready to make the next step.
If that scenario changes, I'm done with this team.
They've won some pretty tight games against some very good teams, and have stayed in the game with most of these teams as well.
The only thing we are getting set up for is a developing team getting ready to make the next step.
If that scenario changes, I'm done with this team.
Aerchon
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No.
I like Nelson and think a full year under him we would potentially see some significant growth but at this point you would have to be some kind of special to think the Oilers will have turned the corner for next year.
The Oilers are getting wins but in a scenario where few, if any, take them seriously.
The beginning of next year everyone fights harder cause everyone is still in it. That will be a test that our team will most likely still fail next year. But with Nelson we should be able to not be embarrassing and actually build towards being a playoff team. Maybe even as soon as 2 years from now.
Next year I don't expect much. Getting out of the bottom 5 again while being in almost every game would feel like the playoffs after how Dallas Eakins took this team from bad to omfg worse. That's a massive hole to climb out of.
I don't even think McDavid will help the Sabres enough for the hole they put themselves in.
I like Nelson and think a full year under him we would potentially see some significant growth but at this point you would have to be some kind of special to think the Oilers will have turned the corner for next year.
The Oilers are getting wins but in a scenario where few, if any, take them seriously.
The beginning of next year everyone fights harder cause everyone is still in it. That will be a test that our team will most likely still fail next year. But with Nelson we should be able to not be embarrassing and actually build towards being a playoff team. Maybe even as soon as 2 years from now.
Next year I don't expect much. Getting out of the bottom 5 again while being in almost every game would feel like the playoffs after how Dallas Eakins took this team from bad to omfg worse. That's a massive hole to climb out of.
I don't even think McDavid will help the Sabres enough for the hole they put themselves in.
I don't care about another high pick, whoever we get will be a useful player down the line. Getting traction is important, and playing .500 hockey is GOOD.
If we can find a true #1 goalie, and add a couple of pieces then I feel good about next season. I do hope we can keep Roy around for at least another season regardless of what happens at the draft.
If we can find a true #1 goalie, and add a couple of pieces then I feel good about next season. I do hope we can keep Roy around for at least another season regardless of what happens at the draft.
s7ark
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Winning is important, no doubt. This team needs it badly. That being said, I am still hoping we win the lottery, no matter where we finish in the standings. McDavid would be a godsend here.
Optimism would be justified if there was a complete change in management. Absent that any fan who allows themselves to be "set up" deserves whatever disappointment they get. This team is going nowhere as long as the clowns are in charge.
Disagree with your latter point. If MacT doesn't make a serious push to upgrade the defense with two top pairing d-men, or at the very least two established legitimate top 4 d-men this team will be out of it by Halloween. Again.
Before this team will be competitive in any real sense, they need at least two of the following:
A) Two top 4 d-men
B) A centerman at least as good as RNH (McEichel doesn't count)
C) A legitimate starting goaltender.
Keep in mind that even if the Oilers played as well as they have under Nelson for the entire season, they'd be ahead of only one team in the West and would be 9 points out of a playoff spot.
This team is ridiculously far away from being something other than a bottom 5 franchise in this league. And unfortunately I would be absolutely stunned if any of the above three things are addressed in any meaningful way this off-season.
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Define 'late season success'.
Last year we won 6 of our last 16 games.
The year before that we won 3 of our last 12 games.
So to answer the OP question of how many years in its happened, zero. Zero years in a row we've seen success to end the season.
Or maybe I'm just the weird one that measures success in results.
Last year we won 6 of our last 16 games.
The year before that we won 3 of our last 12 games.
So to answer the OP question of how many years in its happened, zero. Zero years in a row we've seen success to end the season.
Or maybe I'm just the weird one that measures success in results.
Mr Positive
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Just keep this coach.
I know we're supposed to be quiet this off-season but we could use at least one critical move
I know we're supposed to be quiet this off-season but we could use at least one critical move
bucks_oil
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No...
I'm as optimistic/apologetic/not a realist as they come around these parts, and even I can see that with our current roster we might just be a .500 squad and out of the playoffs.
I expect to be full blown optimistic in September, hoping our young players will collectively pull their heads out of.... errr... toward the light after a long summer to think and grow... but without a few more vet additions, I don't expect to see the playoffs.
I DO think that if MacT continues his offseason moves at the same pace he has been, then we are getting closer:
2013: Perron, Gordon, Hendricks, Ference (nice try on one of the best available that summer...didn't work out), Scrivens
2014: Fayne, Pouliot,
This summer the challenge will be the exodus of Petry, which means we have 2 D to fill, one C and a goalie.
I expect us to get 2-3 of the 4 pieces and thus be a tweener team for the playoffs. We'll be out of it in March and hopefully will recognize it in Feb so we don't spend assets at the deadline and set the whole process back.
Kolja
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Most urgent need is a #1 Goaltender that can save us a game every now and then.
After that, a stable top pairing defender that eats a lot of minutes. Does not have to be a bonefied #1. A #2 or maybe even a very good #3 (Petry?) could be enough.
At center, resigning Roy could very well prove sufficient if we keep Lander. Strangely enough, our centerdepth doesn't look that bad with RNH, Roy, Lander, Gordon and a looming Draisaitl.
Just keep Nelson f#s!
After that, a stable top pairing defender that eats a lot of minutes. Does not have to be a bonefied #1. A #2 or maybe even a very good #3 (Petry?) could be enough.
At center, resigning Roy could very well prove sufficient if we keep Lander. Strangely enough, our centerdepth doesn't look that bad with RNH, Roy, Lander, Gordon and a looming Draisaitl.
Just keep Nelson f#s!
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they should start better than the previous two years (just have to go .400 to do that).
but it looks more like Mact is getting us ready for another year of pain, what with his comments on the D and his action with Petry. I think they've already written next year off, unless they do something to suggest otherwise.
but it looks more like Mact is getting us ready for another year of pain, what with his comments on the D and his action with Petry. I think they've already written next year off, unless they do something to suggest otherwise.
The Oilers had as much "success" to end last season as they have so far under Nelson. The last 30 games of the season last year the Oilers were 14-13-3. Eakins included.
It's infinitely easier to play without pressure. I'm as hopeful as anyone else that Nelson is the real deal, but this isn't the first time the Oilers have been able to float around the .500 mark during this horrendous stretch of years and they always inevitably come crashing down.
Klimando Kostani
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Keep in mind that this wouldn't happen in bubble, if a team like the oilers, who has bled points to the west all season, is getting wins that would mean western teams are getting less points and so that may put us ahead of more than just one team.
10-10-3 under Nelson is an 82 point pace. That is essentially a guarantee to be one of the bottom 3 or 4 teams in the conference each and every year and a 10-15 point playoff miss every year. Not once since the 05/06 lockout when the shootout was introduced has a team playing at .500 point rate been anything other than a bottom 10 team in the league.
Even with the Oilers playing better hockey under Nelson they are still a bad team on pace for a bad season.
I still want to win the lottery and take McDavid. If we win a few more games and draft in 4-6 slots we might end up with another Gagner because this management group and amature scout crew have no idea on how to pick out players. Winning a few more games does nothing.
Jumptheshark
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we need to win and while it may affect where we draft-- losing has started to settle and we are way to accepting of loses because "we get another high draft pick" this us just negative reinforcement of an unacceptable process that we have drawn to acustom to.
If this was another draft yes I agree with winning but not when u have a generational player up for grabs.
