Anze Kopitar?
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bopeep said:Which ones
His stats in Sweden are pretty respectable, so I am assuming he means the WJC stats. However, 6+3 in 2 games is still pretty decent
Slovenia scoring leaders
http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournamen.../xml/1000000022/IHM10000000220SLO_83_1_0.html
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Right. Considering a much smaller Karsums led the same tournament last year with 13 points in 5 games, and was an easy 2nd rounder, I'd say Kopitar's impressing at least a little.Predatore said:His stats in Sweden are pretty respectable, so I am assuming he means the WJC stats. However, 6+3 in 2 games is still pretty decent
Slovenia scoring leaders
http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournamen.../xml/1000000022/IHM10000000220SLO_83_1_0.html
I'm talking about his J20 stats.Predatore said:His stats in Sweden are pretty respectable, so I am assuming he means the WJC stats. However, 6+3 in 2 games is still pretty decent
Slovenia scoring leaders
http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournamen.../xml/1000000022/IHM10000000220SLO_83_1_0.html
He has a bunch of goals, but 6 assists in 17 games and is only +8.
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Leafaholix said:
Please explain how that, in a sick way, is bad? So he is a sniper, snipers are goalscorers who get goals, not a playmaker, who makes plays and gets assists... with 6 assists in 17 games, oh no Anze you're terrible. Lol, the guy is in the positives with his Plus/Minus. How can you talk bad about someone putting up good stats? +8 is good. Thats like saying someone had a bad game cuz they scored only 2 goals, in a 2-0 game, instead of a hattrick.
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Leafaholix said:
Fair 'nuff. Maybe his linemates cant convert on any of his passes so he just goes out with a mindset of scoring himself? It'd be easier to tell by seeing him on a bigger stage against players of his "caliber", or the caliber that hes being hyped to be.
Kopitar has been absolutely dominant at this tournament so far. Not only is he one of the youngest players there but he's almost the biggest (I'd go with 6'3, 205). He has trememdous hands, hockey sense (!), shot and uses his size well (not as a banger, but to break through checks, lean on defenders etc.). You can't take your eyes off him when he's on the ice because you expect him to do something and he will (certianly, at least, at this level)!
Jason Allison is a good comparison.
At this point I'd consider him (and you may/will laugh) a contender for that wide-open #4 spot in the draft. Of course, I'd like to see him more in the higher-level Swedish league on a regular basis before confirming that.
Jason Allison is a good comparison.
At this point I'd consider him (and you may/will laugh) a contender for that wide-open #4 spot in the draft. Of course, I'd like to see him more in the higher-level Swedish league on a regular basis before confirming that.
steblick said:
According to his profile in the ihhf.com he is 192cm/6´4 (6´3".5 acctually, dude I hate this royal system) 90 kg / 198 lbs. And I agree with you about him being in the top 5, great size and skill + suceeding in a very good league, I would pick him before Blake Wheeler
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Jungle Boy said:+ suceeding in a very good league, I would pick him before Blake Wheeler
actually, the Swedish junior league is not that good. Most Swedish first rounders (and second rounders) have been drafted while playing men's hockey (SEL or Tier II). The SEL team of Södertälje just fired their coach (Timo Lahtinen - someone who is known to not be very good with young players), so a new coach could open up the opportunity for Kopitar to play.. although unlikely with the lockout and all.
steblick said:
6'3"??? No. He is 6'0". He might be first round material and all, but his point per game is worse than for example Nicklas Bergfors, who has dominated more when playing in J20 SuperElit. But still he has great stats. But i mean, usually swedish players have to play in SEL or Allsvenskan to be drafted high.
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Predatore said:
Depends of the reference, I was comparing to the slovenian league. and I didin´t mean the the J20 league only I meant the whole Swedish hockey system, Sweden is a great hockey country and I´m sure that even tier II is better than Slovenian pro league, where Kopitar was playing (with man) and domitaning.
According to IIHF Steblick is right.rivercanyon said:
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Seems a bit unfair to compare Kopitar to Bergfors. I don't know a thing about the Slovenia league, but I assume the level of play and coaching isn't anywhere close to the level Sweden is. I could easily be wrong, since I have never followed the league what so ever. I would think that Kopitar would have a little trouble adapting, whereas Bergfors I assume has been brought up in the Swedish system, getting better coaching/competition etc... Just a thought.
I'm just happy to see another country producing potentially NHL draft level talent, the more the better.
I hope Anze Kopitar is a star if he enters the league, maybe it will turn Slovenia into a small hockey player producing country (the whole small country following one of their brightest stars thing.. and kids there wanting to be just like him).
I hope Anze Kopitar is a star if he enters the league, maybe it will turn Slovenia into a small hockey player producing country (the whole small country following one of their brightest stars thing.. and kids there wanting to be just like him).
I haven´t seen the kid play yet(i will). But his points in J20 SuperElit isn´t impressive enough to be drafted in the first round(if he was a swede that is). Johan Andersson is also born 87 on the team and he has two more points than Anze Kopitar. But Andersson didn´t even make the swedish national team last tournament. Just to give you a hint. But im not saying he isn´t first round material.
Kopitar might well be a first rounder, i dunno, until i have seen him play. His size is also an enigma so far. Because all the reports i have indicates on him being 6'0" (182 cm) just like it says on stats.swehockey.se(which are usually right).
Kopitar might well be a first rounder, i dunno, until i have seen him play. His size is also an enigma so far. Because all the reports i have indicates on him being 6'0" (182 cm) just like it says on stats.swehockey.se(which are usually right).
All I said was that his numbers aren't eye popping for a guy with the hype... even though he's not getting as much hype as guys like Crosby, Brule, etc... his U20 stats should be a lot better, no?zecke26 said:
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Leafaholix said:
Stats aren't everything you know. If scouts and other sources say he's that good, then he probably is don't you think?
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