Any word on Brind A’mour?

[mikeyfan]

I am a Canes fan who no longer lives in the Raleigh area, so I get very little Hurricanes news. So I am asking is there any word on resigning Rod to a long term contract? After the Foreslund deal I have doubts about the efforts Waddle makes to sign people. I’m sure Frances has a contract all ready for Rod if the Canes don’t have him resigned by seasons end.

So will you please keep us Canics updated on the Progress of getting our number one Free Agent signed to a long term deal?

Thanks

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[Chrispy]

Waddell had little to do with the offer made to Forslund. That offer made was a decision by Dundon.

Brind'Amour is not the top free agent who needs to be signed this off-season. He may still be under team control, but the #1 priority needs to be Svechnikov.

Dundon has stated he wants to focus his investment in the team into the on-ice product. As frustrating as it was for us with Kaiton and Forslund, I believe Dundon realizes Brind'Amour's impact on the on-ice product.

Here is the last update from Brind'Amour and the team from 2 weeks ago.

 

[hockeynjune]

Waddell had little to do with the offer made to Forslund. That offer made was a decision by Dundon.

Brind'Amour is not the top free agent who needs to be signed this off-season. He may still be under team control, but the #1 priority needs to be Svechnikov.

Dundon has stated he wants to focus his investment in the team into the on-ice product. As frustrating as it was for us with Kaiton and Forslund, I believe Dundon realizes Brind'Amour's impact on the on-ice product.

Here is the last update from Brind'Amour and the team from 2 weeks ago.

And the local fan base. Brindy is a local hero, letting him go would be a monumental mistake.

 

[mikeyfan]

Waddell had little to do with the offer made to Forslund. That offer made was a decision by Dundon.

Brind'Amour is not the top free agent who needs to be signed this off-season. He may still be under team control, but the #1 priority needs to be Svechnikov.

Dundon has stated he wants to focus his investment in the team into the on-ice product. As frustrating as it was for us with Kaiton and Forslund, I believe Dundon realizes Brind'Amour's impact on the on-ice product.

Here is the last update from Brind'Amour and the team from 2 weeks ago.

Sorry I love Sevch but the Canes have the right to match any offer for him. This team would be nowhere near as good as they are if we had any other coach. IMO Rod is the number 1 free agent for the Hurricanes.

 

[AD Skinner]

Are you spelling everyone's name wrong on purpose?

 

[Unsustainable]

RBA is probably worth between 3-6m per now, if we make the finals, that is on the 6m per side, if they don’t make it past the 1st round, maybe 4m range.

Could be something they will discuss in the post season to see what happens

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Are you spelling everyone's name wrong on purpose?

If it's a bit it's a really good one.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Are you spelling everyone's name wrong on purpose?

I think Mikey likes it.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Waddle

 

[GoCanes2015]

RBA is probably worth between 3-6m per now, if we make the finals, that is on the 6m per side, if they don’t make it past the 1st round, maybe 4m range.

Could be something they will discuss in the post season to see what happens

I think Rod's probably a $2.75-$3.5m coach on renewal, maybe on a 2-year deal. If they keep improving and maybe win a cup in those 2 years, bump him up to the $4.5-$5.5 level.

 

[GoldiFox]

RBA is probably worth between 3-6m per now, if we make the finals, that is on the 6m per side, if they don’t make it past the 1st round, maybe 4m range.

Could be something they will discuss in the post season to see what happens

Doesn't Barry Trotz make $4 million?

I don't think the numbers will ever be released but I would guess the Canes offer is a lot closer to $1 million than $6 million.

 

[Unsustainable]

Doesn't Barry Trotz make $4 million?

I don't think the numbers will ever be released but I would guess the Canes offer is a lot closer to $1 million than $6 million.

looks like Trotz is a 20m 5y deal at 4m per.

Cooper in Tampa is probably the highest paid, at 6.75m per I think.

 

[hockeynjune]

Doesn't Barry Trotz make $4 million?

I don't think the numbers will ever be released but I would guess the Canes offer is a lot closer to $1 million than $6 million.

Not sure that matters. Francis and Brindy have a strong relationship forged by years of trust. Francis is noticeably dragging his feet on a coaching selection. Reasonably good chance he will offer Brindy the job at a competitive pay plan. That will set the bar for Dundon. The distance between the offers will be a measure of (A) how much Brindy wants to stay in Raleigh and (B) whether he has any desire to coach another team. Just my take and I don't know didly. I do know tkt sales will reflect the local fan response to the outcome.

 

[Svechhammer]

RBA is probably worth between 3-6m per now, if we make the finals, that is on the 6m per side, if they don’t make it past the 1st round, maybe 4m range.

Could be something they will discuss in the post season to see what happens

Brindy has enough of a coaching resume that one postseason run shouldn't be the difference of upwards of $2m per season.

He's a damn good coach. I would say he's definitely worth a salary in the upper 25% of the league. The problem is, there's a whole heck of a lot of unknown publicly out there when it comes to head coaching salaries, with at least half the league just not reporting it. And from what I've seen, the comparables are all over the place.

Alain Vigneault makes $5m per year for Philly
Krueger made $4m per year in Buffalo
Laviolette makes $4.9m per year in Washington
Maurice makes $3m per year in Winnipeg
Quennville makes $5m per year in Florida
Cassidy makes $3m per year in Boston
Trotz makes $4m per year on the Island

So yeah, I'm going to guess if we come in around $4m, that's probably fair for him. Right in the middle of what you'd really expect of a coach of his caliber.

As an aside, gotta feel bad for Blashill. He's making only $800k per year to coach a team that has absolutely no hope of winning in Detroit.

 

[Ole Gil]

Rod might be the first person in the history of sports genuinely uninterested in his contract extension during the season.

 

[Chrispy]

Sorry I love Sevch but the Canes have the right to match any offer for him. This team would be nowhere near as good as they are if we had any other coach. IMO Rod is the number 1 free agent for the Hurricanes.

Letting someone else dictate the salary and contract length for Svech is a much bigger issue long-term because it impacts the salary cap, the ability to sign Hamilton and others, and the ability to negotiate with the rest of the core as they come up for new contracts.

Plus it puts a target on Necas, which only exacerbates the cap issues.

Rod has been great. But if he leaves without a huge run this year, he's not even the second-most accomplished coach in franchise history. There will be others.

And for the record, I do think Dundon will get Brind'Amour done, and probably done before Svech.

 

[hblueridgegal]

When RBA was on Morning Skate..he said he was surprised and happy DW was saying things were moving along and positive as they'd only had a couple of brief conversations about it and then he chuckled. The candor in his interviews sometimes conflicts with some of the PR speak given by others.

His re-up has been a regular topic of conversation on the various SiriusNHL programs...they think his market rate is between $4-$5M.

 

[To Be Determined]

offer a 1 year, $3 million dollar deal, that includes an automatic 1 year extension with a $250k increase if neither side opts out during a two week period following the team's last game, be it regular or post season. the raise/opt-out clause carries forward each year.

won't happen, but if dundon loves rod as much as he says and rod is as adamant he isn't uprooting to go somewhere else this is the ultimate trust exercise.

 

[Unsustainable]

Brindy has enough of a coaching resume that one postseason run shouldn't be the difference of upwards of $2m per season.

He's a damn good coach. I would say he's definitely worth a salary in the upper 25% of the league. The problem is, there's a whole heck of a lot of unknown publicly out there when it comes to head coaching salaries, with at least half the league just not reporting it. And from what I've seen, the comparables are all over the place.

Alain Vigneault makes $5m per year for Philly
Krueger made $4m per year in Buffalo
Laviolette makes $4.9m per year in Washington
Maurice makes $3m per year in Winnipeg
Quennville makes $5m per year in Florida
Cassidy makes $3m per year in Boston
Trotz makes $4m per year on the Island

So yeah, I'm going to guess if we come in around $4m, that's probably fair for him. Right in the middle of what you'd really expect of a coach of his caliber.

As an aside, gotta feel bad for Blashill. He's making only $800k per year to coach a team that has absolutely no hope of winning in Detroit.

which is where I was figuring the 3-6m range.
4-5m is probably likely

 

[HisIceness]

Rod will coach us for free

 

[tarheelhockey]

I don't think you **** with this dynamic when you're entering your window of contention. Spending an extra $1M to keep your coach is way, way less disruptive than saving $1M and throwing everything into a spin cycle. This isn't like goalies where you can just swap them in and out.

Are there other coaches who can do what Rod does, probably. I don't see any of them being less expensive than Rod. Those who are less expensive are also less proven and quite likely to lose the room (the Kirk Muller experiment jumps to mind). I just don't see any reason not to get this deal done and go from there.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This deal will get done.

 

[mikeyfan]

If the players have so much respect for Rod and will go through a wall for him can the delay start weighing on them. In other words do the players start thinking management cares more about the buck than they do the team

 

[hockeynjune]

If the players have so much respect for Rod and will go through a wall for him can the delay start weighing on them. In other words do the players start thinking management cares more about the buck than they do the team

Nah, I really believe this is a non issue all the way around. As someone pointed out Dundon is focused on the on ice product. The on ice product is a result of Rod Brind'Amour's culture and motivation.

 

[Svechhammer]

Everyone keeps saying that Francis is holding out to throw money at Brindy, but isn't it more likely he's just waiting to see which coaches are fired after the year to see who he could go get?

I mean, you know that Torts is going to be available, and he turned Columbus from a joke to a contender (before this year). If I was Francis, I'd be looking to get someone like him before I'd be looking to try and pry Brindy out of Raleigh.