Headshot77
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This is a horrible idea. Contracting two teams would tank franchise values. It is much better for the league to keep their few problem children financially for this reason.
they should, but they wont.
the owners may like getting their cut of the fat franchise fee, but talent dilution is a thing
I'm not sure what "where do NHL franchises assign players" is referring to (I don't know what it means)what the majority of posters are not admitting to themselves, is where do NHL franchises assign players,
as has been stated ad nauseum FLORIDA cannot be relocated ANYWHERE unless posters want to send 40 M to Broward County
The people complaining about talent dilution and overlooking the posters citing Vegas... you're funny. Not in a good way.
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you do understand what talent dilution means, right?
It means the average talent level of the league gets driven down because of too many roster spots to fill. As in, what would've been 2nd/3rd liners, are now 1st/2nd liners
A team grabbing a bunch of players and making a Cup Finals run doesnt disprove dilution.
I love how talent dilution is still an argument after an expansion team made it to the SCF IN THEIR FIRST YEAR.
I don't get your spin, as that's still 100% financial
The "history and future" is the KHL spent money in it's history it didn't have, and now in the future it can't keep doing that...the teams leaving can't afford to stay, and they're hoping the teams they add can afford it...that's all financial, as simple as that
I've been following your posts/links for years, among others sources (you're kinda like RT as a source, i.e. with tons of spin/bias)It is all about the players market. The league has too many Russian teams, who are not able to fill a roster spots with top Russian players. There is not so many top-end Russian players to fill all Russian teams. That is all. Russian KHL clubs can sign only 5 foreigners, the rest of a roster are Russians. And this restriction has nothing to do with the KHL, it is a condition of the Russian Hockey Federation. If a decision was on the KHL, there would be no limit based on nationality.
That is all problem why the KHL decided to contract teams.
I have a question. How many KHL documents related to the contraction/expansion have you studied?
How about we contract the Bruins, Leafs, Blackhawks, Habs first since they are driving the cap up? It works both ways. Anyway who is going to pay back the owner of each contracted team? It’s going to cause the ticket prices to double in some places.sure, as soon as all the dead weight that is propped up by revenue sharing is gone...Arizona, Florida, Carolina, Columbus
That is great you read my posts.I've been following your posts/links for years, among others sources (you're kinda like RT as a source, i.e. with tons of spin/bias)
In regards to you noting "it is a condition of the Russian Hockey Federation" & the point of this thread...to me your comment shows the KHL is really just a national league pretending that it's more (and doing so is financially hurting it), and because the NHL is not a national league they don't have the issues the KHL has (so no contraction in the foreseeable for the NHL)
No, not reallyYou claim there can not be contraction because the NHL is not a national league. And implying there is a contraction because the KHL is a national league. Right?
The NHL hasn't done it in 40 years, but it's much more difficult to do in the KHL when it's happening there year after year? Your views are based on fantasy/propaganda, not realityThe NHL can do a contraction whenever the league wants. On the other hand, a contraction in the KHL is much more difficult, because of co-existence of the KHL & the FHR. You might not agree, but the KHL contraction is a proof of the KHL´s international status. A contraction was not possible a few years ago, now it is a reality due to KHL´s status.
Thought it was the Tigers and Twins? Tigers were REALLY struggling financially at the time. Yes, it was discussed. They realized it would take years to see a financial benefit to doing so.Contraction will not happen in the forseeable future. The reason is franchise value. The NHL will protect the value of its franchises above all other factors. If you contract a franchise you're essentially saying that franchise has no value - it is worthless. What does that do to the value of the 30 other teams (soo to be 31). The NHL is pushing hard that a franchise is worth $650 million.
Besides, MLB tried contraction back in 2001. They were going to contract the Twins and Expos. You'll of course recognize that both teams still exist (the Expos of course after moving to DC).
When a team is sold and relocated that's not contraction (what this thread is talking about)I looked at wiki, where is written that 7 NHL clubs have been relocated since 1980. Adding, "there are 19 defunct and relocated NHL teams". That exactly fits your words, "a contraction occurs because a team can't pay their bills." And we can add Phoenix Coyotes or Arizona or how this bankrupted club is called now.
No, you can't, as they're still actually in the league and there are no plans to contract themAnd we can add Phoenix Coyotes or Arizona or how this bankrupted club is called now.
I'm talking about what this thread is talking about, how likely it is to for contraction to occur in the NHL.Your problem is that you do not understand why all clubs happened to be the KHL members. You do not get the background. A list of teams would be different if the KHL was established a few years earlier or later.
Wikipedia shows the KHL had 24 teams for 2009-2010 and 23 teams for 2010-2011Yes, a contraction was not possible before 2014.
No, I don't. The KHL is just a new name for previous Russian national leagues (that goes back to Soviet times), it's not "new" IMO (just like it's not really a business IMO)The KHL has 10 years. You need to look at the league from this point of view.
That would be a different discussion (not what this thread's about)Do you really think the KHL was stronger with Yugra, Lada or Novokuznetsk?
It would cease to exist other than a regional sportOh, come now, try to see it from his Original 6 perspective...
What if the NHL had 6 teams, and each of those teams had 4 or 5 farm clubs each in NHL-B, where all those other non-all-star-caliber players belong?