Am I not Prophetic?

[hawksfan50]

I had posted prior to the season that Panarin would equal his number in points...72 ...and guess what...he us exactly at 36 at the half-way mark!

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..I had thought there would be some in tial adjustment to the smaller rink and the NHL game and the culture change.
.I had expected an improving over the course of the whole season with a better 2nd half expected than the initial half.
IF THE improving adjustment assumption still holds we should see even better production from.him in the 2nd half..I think the goals pace gets better as he figures out NHL goalies.And as long as Kane keeps up his own production pace then Panarin should now break the goal pace and points pace he is on and exceed 30 goals and 50 assists. ..I had originally thought 20-22 goals and 52or 50 assists ..but now I think he could get more like 32 goals and 50+ assists...we shall see.
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[TeddyGoalsevelt]

He's a young player. Don't ratchet expectations on him too high. Otherwise he'll score 60 points his rookie year and people will say he's garbage.

 

[ChiGuySez]

You are prophetic. So was the Amazing Carnac.

So whats the winning powerball numbers?

 

[hawksrule]

If Panarin is a legitimate 70-80 point scorer, is there any realistic way to sign both him and TT when the time comes?

 

[ClydeLee]

It's just one of the many cognitive biases, but sure.

 

[Hawkaholic]

If Panarin is a legitimate 70-80 point scorer, is there any realistic way to sign both him and TT when the time comes?

Probably not, in that case you say bye bye to TT.

 

[Esq]

I'm just happy he's shooting the puck more.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

So prophetic you'd have taken Turris over Kane

 

[tdfxman]

If Panarin is a legitimate 70-80 point scorer, is there any realistic way to sign both him and TT when the time comes?

If this keeps up, yeah Bread Man will make a lot of dough, but TT won't be nearly as steep at all. So yes we fit both. Bicks gone by then, and maybe Hossa in 2 years.

Does Marian Hossa play hockey while only getting paid 1M a year? That is what happens in 2 years.

I predict we win Cup NEXT year and Hossa retires before Rocky can pay him 1M a year on his 5M+ cap hit. Get ready for phrases like "what is the cap recapture penalty on Hossa?"

 

[Salvaged Ship]

If the definition of prophetic is non-stop moaning at Toes then yes, you are prophetic

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Some metaphor about a broken clock

 

[tdfxman]

So prophetic you'd have taken Turris over Kane

Who wanted Turris over Kane?

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Who wanted Turris over Kane?

hawksfan50

 

[scarchelli]

So prophetic you'd have taken Turris over Kane

And rundblad on the first line.

 

[Enyaw]

And rundblad on the first line.

as a forward

genius ... pure genius

 

[TeddyGoalsevelt]

It's things like trying to figure out how to sign both Teravainen and Panarin that makes me think Bowman is a wizard for what he's been able to accomplish. Has he made some suspect decisions? Sure. But dude has kept the core together and got us Cups. That's gotta be the most stressful job behind President of the United States.

Every little decision you make will be scrutinized until the horse dies. And then scrutinized some more.

 

[bwana63]

It's things like trying to figure out how to sign both Teravainen and Panarin that makes me think Bowman is a wizard for what he's been able to accomplish. Has he made some suspect decisions? Sure. But dude has kept the core together and got us Cups. That's gotta be the most stressful job behind President of the United States.

Every little decision you make will be scrutinized until the horse dies. And then scrutinized some more.

They're RFAs. Signing them isn't going to be borderline impossible (famous last words). We're finally rid of Bicks (+$4M). Shaw will be replaced by a cheaper alternative in all likelihood (+~$1.2M). Hoss could retire. Kruger could be replaced by a cheaper alternative. The Loony could bounce back, which would be a huge boon for those clubs up against the ceiling.

 

[ThatSaid]

Isn't there a big recapture penalty if Hossa retires in the next year or two? I'd rather have him around than see 3 mil in dead cap space. One of you cap wizards can correct me.

As for space to sign both, its possible, but will get much more difficult if TT starts turning it on before his ELC is up.

That said, Bick's 4 million should be out the door soon, and last article I read said the cap could go up as much as 4 million next year. As long as we're wise with that money, we can do it. But if Panarin becomes a perennial PPG player, I'd expect him to see a contract close to 7M AAV.

 

[MTP]

Isn't there a big recapture penalty if Hossa retires in the next year or two?

Yes, it would be crippling if Hossa officially retired. If he's done playing, there's a good chance that he LTIRetires ala Chris Pronger. At this point Hossa's been so banged up throughout his career that all he would have to do is say that he doesn't feel comfortable on the ice and I don't think the NHL would be able to do anything about it.

Also Fiddy, you might want to be 100% sure you're actually correct before you start bragging about (finally) predicting something.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Yes, it would be crippling if Hossa officially retired. If he's done playing, there's a good chance that he LTIRetires ala Chris Pronger. At this point Hossa's been so banged up throughout his career that all he would have to do is say that he doesn't feel comfortable on the ice and I don't think the NHL would be able to do anything about it.

Also Fiddy, you might want to be 100% sure you're actually correct before you start bragging about (finally) predicting something.

This is the big question I have. How close will the league monitor the situation. I mean with Pronger, there's no doubt that he had devastating concussion issues that forced him to retire. If Hossa basically decides, Ive won 3+ cups, am only getting a mil a year and wants to retire. And oh yeah, "My back hurts" (wink wink), will the league allow the Hawks to do that?

I'm sure other owners wouldn't want the Hawks to get cap relieve if Hossa is basically retiring. Then again, how do you disprove a guy is retiring because of injury?

 

[abt424]

I had posted prior to the season that Panarin would equal his number in points...72 ...and guess what...he us exactly at 36 at the half-way mark!

However
..I had thought there would be some in tial adjustment to the smaller rink and the NHL game and the culture change.
.I had expected an improving over the course of the whole season with a better 2nd half expected than the initial half.
IF THE improving adjustment assumption still holds we should see even better production from.him in the 2nd half..I think the goals pace gets better as he figures out NHL goalies.And as long as Kane keeps up his own production pace then Panarin should now break the goal pace and points pace he is on and exceed 30 goals and 50 assists. ..I had originally thought 20-22 goals and 52or 50 assists ..but now I think he could get more like 32 goals and 50+ assists...we shall see.
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I'm just shocked you got through an entire post without ripping on Toews. Well done.

 

[FinnFan8]

I'm just shocked you got through an entire post without ripping on Toews. Well done.

 

[ChiTownCode]

I'm just shocked you got through an entire post without ripping on Toews. Well done.

More surprised I could read his post without hurting my eyes.

 

[Taze em]

If only there was a poster around here who had the Hawks winning the cup in 2015 the whole season, predicted the Timonen and Vermette trades and predicted Panarin to score 70 points this season.

 

[MTP]

This is the big question I have. How close will the league monitor the situation. I mean with Pronger, there's no doubt that he had devastating concussion issues that forced him to retire. If Hossa basically decides, Ive won 3+ cups, am only getting a mil a year and wants to retire. And oh yeah, "My back hurts" (wink wink), will the league allow the Hawks to do that?

I'm sure other owners wouldn't want the Hawks to get cap relieve if Hossa is basically retiring. Then again, how do you disprove a guy is retiring because of injury?

In a vacuum, the league does nothing because the Hawks are a cash cow and the current face of the league. You raise a good point about the other 29 owners but then again, the Hawks also make them money via revenue sharing. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I think it's far more likely that Hossa unofficially retires in 2-3 years than playing out his entire deal. Or maybe he goes to Germany and gets his blood spun like Peyton Manning and comes back with a 70 point season.