Celebrity Death: Allan Williams, The Beatles' first manager, dies

[Jumptheshark]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/31/entertainment/allan-williams-beatles-manager-obit/index.html

While Brian Epstein gets all the credit--Williams was the manager that booked the band into Germany--he was also their driver. He gave the Beatles to Epstein--depending on the source because he knew he did all he could do or the Epstein conned him out of it.

Not a well known name, but he was the first guy to see something special in the then fab five(Stu Sutcliffe and Pete Best were still in the band)

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[FLYLine27*]

I'm not really sure I would consider him a "celebrity".

I think we are really reaching now to try to throw as many names in as possible in 2016 to make it look worse than it was.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'm not really sure I would consider him a "celebrity".

I think we are really reaching now to try to throw as many names in as possible in 2016 to make it look worse than it was.

here in the UK he more or less invented the Liverpool scene and that is one reason I waited for CNN to post his obit. Why would CNN and other us agency report his death? this was not just the UK guys reporting it

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

get in before the number changes?

RIP mate, thanks for launching the beatles.

GOAT Band AINEC

 

[Jumptheshark]

get in before the number changes?

RIP mate, thanks for launching the beatles.

GOAT Band AINEC

Not just the Beatles at one point in time he was involved with nearly all the liverpool bands--he just lacked the ability to see beyond the Liverpool-Hamburg circuit

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Rip.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

Read his book "The Man Who Gave The Beatles Away'. Maybe not 100% accurate, but very entertaining.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Read his book "The Man Who Gave The Beatles Away'. Maybe not 100% accurate, but very entertaining.

he was on English TV a few years ago and said he thought the Beatles were ****. But that is when they had Best on drums and Stu in the band.

But he does get credit for on big thing--sending the Beatles to Germany and Paul, George and John is said that is what made them a band(and of course they became better friends with a guy named Ringo--who Williams called the luckiest SOB to live)--when he sent the Beatles to Hamburg many other bands there were pissed because the Beatles at the time were not taken seriously and the bands truly thought they would screw things up for the other Liverpool bands there.

 

[Troy McClure]

here in the UK he more or less invented the Liverpool scene and that is one reason I waited for CNN to post his obit. Why would CNN and other us agency report his death? this was not just the UK guys reporting it

They are reporting it because of the Beatle connection. What percentage of the population ever heard of the guy? 3%?

 

[Jumptheshark]

They are reporting it because of the Beatle connection. What percentage of the population ever heard of the guy? 3%?

and he was the one who convinced to Beatles to go to Hamburg

no one may know him--but he did make a small mark

 

[Filppula]

I'm not really sure I would consider him a "celebrity".

I think we are really reaching now to try to throw as many names in as possible in 2016 to make it look worse than it was.

Agreed.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Agreed.

90% of the US celebs who die are not known anywhere else

 

[Huggy43]

Are you guys really arguing if someone was a big enough celebrity to be included with the group of 2016?

Caring about someone's status over remembering their impact on the earth (however small it is) is pretty awful.

RIP Allan Williams & thanks for recognizing the amazing talent in Liverpool.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

Sam Leach, who was the promoter for many of the Beatles' early shows, died about a week before Williams

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/dec/23/sam-leach-obituary