All Time Leaders in Leading in Playoff Series (1918-2023)
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If you gave me 500 guesses, I never would have picked Larry Aurie. (I know - it's a small sample size, and a lot of those are 3rd place finishes - but I never would have guessed he'd be anywhere close to this list).
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I think poor Larry is just easy to over look
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These stats really confirm how crazy Gretzky was in big games too. He has more series as #1 than many hall of famers even played.
Thank you, I'll be here all night
These stats really confirm how crazy Gretzky was in big games too. He has more series as #1 than many hall of famers even played.
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All Time Leaders in Leading in Playoff Series, PIM* (1918-2023)
* - tiebreaker: Player with fewer games played.
Most Times "#1 in PIM" in Playoff Series
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER | #1PIM_SER |
| Tocchet Rick | 1984-01 | 27 | 10 |
| Pronger Chris | 1995-11 | 32 | 9 |
| Hunter Dale | 1980-99 | 34 | 9 |
| Plett Willi | 1976-88 | 19 | 8 |
| Johnson Ivan | 1926-38 | 24 | 7 |
| Lemieux Claude | 1985-09 | 44 | 7 |
| Shore Eddie | 1926-40 | 16 | 6 |
| Domi Tie | 1991-04 | 18 | 6 |
| Williams Dave | 1974-87 | 21 | 6 |
| Horner Red | 1928-40 | 23 | 6 |
| Nilan Chris | 1979-92 | 24 | 6 |
| Linseman Ken | 1978-91 | 25 | 6 |
| Ray Rob | 1990-01 | 14 | 5 |
| Simon Chris | 1992-08 | 16 | 5 |
| Churla Shane | 1986-97 | 16 | 5 |
| Russell Phil | 1972-83 | 17 | 5 |
| Neil Chris | 2001-17 | 19 | 5 |
| Lucic Milan | 2007-22 | 23 | 5 |
| Secord Al | 1978-90 | 24 | 5 |
| Roberts Gary | 1986-08 | 25 | 5 |
| Risebrough Doug | 1974-87 | 26 | 5 |
| Foote Adam | 1992-10 | 29 | 5 |
| Sutter Duane | 1979-90 | 31 | 5 |
| Abdelkader Justin | 2008-16 | 13 | 4 |
| Coulter Art | 1931-42 | 13 | 4 |
| Benn Jamie | 2013-23 | 14 | 4 |
| Shaw Andrew | 2011-17 | 14 | 4 |
| Schultz Dave | 1972-79 | 14 | 4 |
| Martin Matt | 2012-23 | 15 | 4 |
| Probert Bob | 1986-02 | 15 | 4 |
| Gare Danny | 1974-85 | 15 | 4 |
| Broadbent Punch | 1918-29 | 15 | 4 |
| Wilson Tom | 2012-22 | 16 | 4 |
| Mitchell Willie | 2002-14 | 16 | 4 |
| Plager Bob | 1967-77 | 16 | 4 |
| Bertuzzi Todd | 2000-14 | 17 | 4 |
| McRae Basil | 1981-96 | 17 | 4 |
| Zhitnik Alexei | 1992-07 | 18 | 4 |
| Howatt Garry | 1974-81 | 18 | 4 |
| Stewart Jack | 1939-50 | 18 | 4 |
| Milbury Mike | 1975-87 | 19 | 4 |
| McClelland Kevin | 1981-89 | 20 | 4 |
| Seibert Earl | 1931-45 | 20 | 4 |
| Manson Dave | 1986-01 | 21 | 4 |
| Lapointe Martin | 1991-08 | 23 | 4 |
| Hatcher Derian | 1991-08 | 24 | 4 |
| Killorn Alex | 2013-23 | 26 | 4 |
| Corson Shayne | 1986-04 | 27 | 4 |
| Perry Corey | 2005-23 | 35 | 4 |
| Stevens Scott | 1982-03 | 41 | 4 |
Most Times "Top 3 in PIM" in Playoff Series
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER | #1PIM_SER | #2PIM_SER | #3PIM_SER | TOP3PIM_SER |
| Hunter Dale | 1980-99 | 34 | 9 | 6 | 3 | 18 |
| Horner Red | 1928-40 | 23 | 6 | 8 | 3 | 17 |
| Nilan Chris | 1979-92 | 24 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 15 |
| Foote Adam | 1992-10 | 29 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 15 |
| Tocchet Rick | 1984-01 | 27 | 10 | 2 | 2 | 14 |
| Shore Eddie | 1926-40 | 16 | 6 | 8 | 0 | 14 |
| Williams Dave | 1974-87 | 21 | 6 | 3 | 5 | 14 |
| Hatcher Derian | 1991-08 | 24 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 |
| Pronger Chris | 1995-11 | 32 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 13 |
| Plett Willi | 1976-88 | 19 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 13 |
| Lemieux Claude | 1985-09 | 44 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 12 |
| Johnson Ivan | 1926-38 | 24 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 12 |
| Roberts Gary | 1986-08 | 25 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 12 |
| McSorley Marty | 1985-99 | 23 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 12 |
| Chelios Chris | 1983-09 | 53 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 12 |
| Domi Tie | 1991-04 | 18 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 11 |
| Lucic Milan | 2007-22 | 23 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 11 |
| Schultz Dave | 1972-79 | 14 | 4 | 6 | 1 | 11 |
| Manson Dave | 1986-01 | 21 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 11 |
| Momesso Sergio | 1986-97 | 23 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 11 |
| Sutter Duane | 1979-90 | 31 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 10 |
| O'Reilly Terry | 1972-85 | 22 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 10 |
| Howatt Garry | 1974-81 | 18 | 4 | 5 | 0 | 9 |
| McRae Basil | 1981-96 | 17 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 9 |
| Seibert Earl | 1931-45 | 20 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 9 |
| Zhitnik Alexei | 1992-07 | 18 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 9 |
| Anderson Glenn | 1980-96 | 43 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 9 |
| Malkin Evgeni | 2006-22 | 32 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 9 |
| Dupont Andre | 1971-83 | 29 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 9 |
| Tkachuk Keith | 1991-09 | 16 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 9 |
| Peplinski Jim | 1980-89 | 20 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 9 |
| McCarty Darren | 1993-08 | 33 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 9 |
| Churla Shane | 1986-97 | 16 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 8 |
| Secord Al | 1978-90 | 24 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 8 |
| Neil Chris | 2001-17 | 19 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 8 |
| Lapointe Martin | 1991-08 | 23 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 8 |
| Maroon Pat | 2013-23 | 26 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
| Richard Maurice | 1943-60 | 26 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
| Marchand Brad | 2010-23 | 25 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
| Smith Hooley | 1925-40 | 21 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
| Ferguson John | 1963-71 | 16 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
| Kane Evander | 2017-23 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
| Chara Zdeno | 2001-21 | 35 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 8 |
| Harris Ted | 1964-75 | 19 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 8 |
| Clancy King | 1921-36 | 22 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 8 |
| Smith Steve | 1985-97 | 28 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 8 |
| Linseman Ken | 1978-91 | 25 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 7 |
| Russell Phil | 1972-83 | 17 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 7 |
| Wilson Tom | 2012-22 | 16 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 7 |
| Martin Matt | 2012-23 | 15 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 7 |
| Perry Corey | 2005-23 | 35 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 |
| Stewart Jack | 1939-50 | 18 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 |
| Bertuzzi Todd | 2000-14 | 17 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 |
| Hunter Tim | 1982-95 | 26 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 7 |
| Orlando Jimmy | 1939-43 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 7 |
| Letang Kris | 2007-22 | 27 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 7 |
| Joliat Aurel | 1922-37 | 20 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 7 |
| Sutter Brian | 1976-88 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 7 |
| Magnuson Keith | 1969-78 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 7 |
| Odelein Lyle | 1990-03 | 17 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 7 |
| Barnaby Matthew | 1992-04 | 13 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 7 |
| Lindsay Ted | 1944-65 | 24 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 7 |
| Stewart Nels | 1925-40 | 19 | 0 | 4 | 3 | 7 |
Best %, "#1 in PIM" in Playoff Series
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER ** | #1PIM_SER | #1PIM_SER% |
| Plett Willi | 1976-88 | 19 | 8 | 42.11% |
| Shore Eddie | 1926-40 | 16 | 6 | 37.50% |
| Zadorov Nikita | 2017-22 | 8 | 3 | 37.50% |
| Bourgeois Charlie | 1981-87 | 8 | 3 | 37.50% |
| Tocchet Rick | 1984-01 | 27 | 10 | 37.04% |
| Ray Rob | 1990-01 | 14 | 5 | 35.71% |
| Domi Tie | 1991-04 | 18 | 6 | 33.33% |
| Ritchie Nick | 2016-21 | 9 | 3 | 33.33% |
| Simon Chris | 1992-08 | 16 | 5 | 31.25% |
| Churla Shane | 1986-97 | 16 | 5 | 31.25% |
| Abdelkader Justin | 2008-16 | 13 | 4 | 30.77% |
| Coulter Art | 1931-42 | 13 | 4 | 30.77% |
| Kane Evander | 2017-23 | 10 | 3 | 30.00% |
| Simmonds Wayne | 2009-22 | 10 | 3 | 30.00% |
| Comeau Blake | 2013-20 | 10 | 3 | 30.00% |
| Orlando Jimmy | 1939-43 | 10 | 3 | 30.00% |
| Russell Phil | 1972-83 | 17 | 5 | 29.41% |
| Johnson Ivan | 1926-38 | 24 | 7 | 29.17% |
| Williams Dave | 1974-87 | 21 | 6 | 28.57% |
| Benn Jamie | 2013-23 | 14 | 4 | 28.57% |
| Shaw Andrew | 2011-17 | 14 | 4 | 28.57% |
| Schultz Dave | 1972-79 | 14 | 4 | 28.57% |
| Pronger Chris | 1995-11 | 32 | 9 | 28.13% |
| Eager Ben | 2005-11 | 11 | 3 | 27.27% |
| Odjick Gino | 1990-02 | 11 | 3 | 27.27% |
| Martin Matt | 2012-23 | 15 | 4 | 26.67% |
| Probert Bob | 1986-02 | 15 | 4 | 26.67% |
| Gare Danny | 1974-85 | 15 | 4 | 26.67% |
| Broadbent Punch | 1918-29 | 15 | 4 | 26.67% |
| Hunter Dale | 1980-99 | 34 | 9 | 26.47% |
| Neil Chris | 2001-17 | 19 | 5 | 26.32% |
| Horner Red | 1928-40 | 23 | 6 | 26.09% |
| Nilan Chris | 1979-92 | 24 | 6 | 25.00% |
| Wilson Tom | 2012-22 | 16 | 4 | 25.00% |
| Mitchell Willie | 2002-14 | 16 | 4 | 25.00% |
| Plager Bob | 1967-77 | 16 | 4 | 25.00% |
| Kadri Nazem | 2012-22 | 12 | 3 | 25.00% |
| Brashear Donald | 1993-09 | 12 | 3 | 25.00% |
| Labine Leo | 1951-61 | 12 | 3 | 25.00% |
| Bollig Brandon | 2011-15 | 8 | 2 | 25.00% |
| Clarkson David | 2006-12 | 8 | 2 | 25.00% |
| Oliwa Krzysztof | 1997-04 | 8 | 2 | 25.00% |
| Lindsay Bill | 1995-02 | 8 | 2 | 25.00% |
| Linseman Ken | 1978-91 | 25 | 6 | 24.00% |
| Bertuzzi Todd | 2000-14 | 17 | 4 | 23.53% |
| McRae Basil | 1981-96 | 17 | 4 | 23.53% |
| Trottier Dave | 1929-37 | 13 | 3 | 23.08% |
| Zhitnik Alexei | 1992-07 | 18 | 4 | 22.22% |
| Howatt Garry | 1974-81 | 18 | 4 | 22.22% |
| Stewart Jack | 1939-50 | 18 | 4 | 22.22% |
| Odgers Jeff | 1993-00 | 9 | 2 | 22.22% |
| Lucic Milan | 2007-22 | 23 | 5 | 21.74% |
| Cizikas Casey | 2012-23 | 14 | 3 | 21.43% |
| Lapierre Maxim | 2007-15 | 14 | 3 | 21.43% |
| Milbury Mike | 1975-87 | 19 | 4 | 21.05% |
| Secord Al | 1978-90 | 24 | 5 | 20.83% |
| Roberts Gary | 1986-08 | 25 | 5 | 20.00% |
| McClelland Kevin | 1981-89 | 20 | 4 | 20.00% |
| Seibert Earl | 1931-45 | 20 | 4 | 20.00% |
| Sutter Brian | 1976-88 | 15 | 3 | 20.00% |
| Magnuson Keith | 1969-78 | 15 | 3 | 20.00% |
| Plager Barclay | 1967-76 | 15 | 3 | 20.00% |
| Conacher Lionel | 1925-37 | 15 | 3 | 20.00% |
| Tkachuk Matthew | 2016-23 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Upshall Scottie | 2005-17 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Jackman Barret | 2001-16 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Roy Andre | 1999-09 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Commodore Mike | 2003-09 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Nieminen Ville | 2000-06 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Baxter Paul | 1980-87 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Evans Jack | 1955-63 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
| Bonin Marcel | 1952-61 | 10 | 2 | 20.00% |
** - min 8 series.
Best %, "Top 3 in PIM" in Playoff Series
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER ** | #1PIM_SER | #2PIM_SER | #3PIM_SER | TOP3PIM_SER | TOP3PIM_SER% |
| Shore Eddie | 1926-40 | 16 | 6 | 8 | 0 | 14 | 87.50% |
| Kane Evander | 2017-23 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 | 80.00% |
| Schultz Dave | 1972-79 | 14 | 4 | 6 | 1 | 11 | 78.57% |
| Horner Red | 1928-40 | 23 | 6 | 8 | 3 | 17 | 73.91% |
| Orlando Jimmy | 1939-43 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 70.00% |
| Plett Willi | 1976-88 | 19 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 13 | 68.42% |
| Williams Dave | 1974-87 | 21 | 6 | 3 | 5 | 14 | 66.67% |
| Nilan Chris | 1979-92 | 24 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 15 | 62.50% |
| Bourgeois Charlie | 1981-87 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 62.50% |
| Ezinicki Bill | 1946-51 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 62.50% |
| Domi Tie | 1991-04 | 18 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 11 | 61.11% |
| Hatcher Derian | 1991-08 | 24 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 | 58.33% |
| Tkachuk Keith | 1991-09 | 16 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 9 | 56.25% |
| Ritchie Nick | 2016-21 | 9 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 55.56% |
| Barilko Bill | 1946-51 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 55.56% |
| Egan Pat | 1939-50 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 55.56% |
| Jackson Harold | 1937-46 | 9 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 55.56% |
| Eager Ben | 2005-11 | 11 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 6 | 54.55% |
| Picard Noel | 1964-71 | 11 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 54.55% |
| Barnaby Matthew | 1992-04 | 13 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 53.85% |
| Hunter Dale | 1980-99 | 34 | 9 | 6 | 3 | 18 | 52.94% |
| McRae Basil | 1981-96 | 17 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 9 | 52.94% |
| Manson Dave | 1986-01 | 21 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 11 | 52.38% |
| McSorley Marty | 1985-99 | 23 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 12 | 52.17% |
| Tocchet Rick | 1984-01 | 27 | 10 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 51.85% |
| Foote Adam | 1992-10 | 29 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 15 | 51.72% |
| Johnson Ivan | 1926-38 | 24 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 12 | 50.00% |
| Zhitnik Alexei | 1992-07 | 18 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 9 | 50.00% |
| Howatt Garry | 1974-81 | 18 | 4 | 5 | 0 | 9 | 50.00% |
| Churla Shane | 1986-97 | 16 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 50.00% |
| Ferguson John | 1963-71 | 16 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 | 50.00% |
| Brashear Donald | 1993-09 | 12 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 6 | 50.00% |
| Miller Jay | 1985-92 | 12 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 50.00% |
| Tkachuk Matthew | 2016-23 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 50.00% |
| Simmonds Wayne | 2009-22 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 50.00% |
| Comeau Blake | 2013-20 | 10 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 50.00% |
| Roy Andre | 1999-09 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 50.00% |
| Dubois Pierre-Luc | 2017-23 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 50.00% |
| Zadorov Nikita | 2017-22 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 50.00% |
| Bollig Brandon | 2011-15 | 8 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 50.00% |
| Clarkson David | 2006-12 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 50.00% |
| Reardon Ken | 1940-50 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 50.00% |
| Graham Ted | 1929-36 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 50.00% |
| Roberts Gary | 1986-08 | 25 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 12 | 48.00% |
| Lucic Milan | 2007-22 | 23 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 11 | 47.83% |
| Momesso Sergio | 1986-97 | 23 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 11 | 47.83% |
| Martin Matt | 2012-23 | 15 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 46.67% |
| Sutter Brian | 1976-88 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 46.67% |
| Magnuson Keith | 1969-78 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 46.67% |
| Bennett Sam | 2014-23 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6 | 46.15% |
| Abdelkader Justin | 2008-16 | 13 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 46.15% |
| Pratt Babe | 1936-45 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6 | 46.15% |
| Trottier Dave | 1929-37 | 13 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 46.15% |
| O'Reilly Terry | 1972-85 | 22 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 10 | 45.45% |
| Boutette Pat | 1975-82 | 11 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 45.45% |
| Leswick Tony | 1947-58 | 11 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 45.45% |
| Cooper Joe | 1936-46 | 11 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 45.45% |
| Peplinski Jim | 1980-89 | 20 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 9 | 45.00% |
| Seibert Earl | 1931-45 | 20 | 4 | 0 | 5 | 9 | 45.00% |
| Scheifele Mark | 2014-23 | 9 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 44.44% |
| Nurse Darnell | 2016-23 | 9 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 44.44% |
| Svechnikov Andrei | 2018-22 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 44.44% |
| McCabe Bryan | 2000-11 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 44.44% |
| Fleming Reg | 1960-69 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 44.44% |
| Wilson Tom | 2012-22 | 16 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 7 | 43.75% |
| Neil Chris | 2001-17 | 19 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 8 | 42.11% |
| Harris Ted | 1964-75 | 19 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 8 | 42.11% |
| Kadri Nazem | 2012-22 | 12 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 41.67% |
| Lindros Eric | 1994-07 | 12 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 41.67% |
| Hospodar Ed | 1979-87 | 12 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 41.67% |
| Campbell Colin | 1974-84 | 12 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 41.67% |
| Sanderson Derek | 1967-76 | 12 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 41.67% |
| Bertuzzi Todd | 2000-14 | 17 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 7 | 41.18% |
| Odelein Lyle | 1990-03 | 17 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 41.18% |
| Russell Phil | 1972-83 | 17 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 7 | 41.18% |
| Pronger Chris | 1995-11 | 32 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 40.63% |
| Probert Bob | 1986-02 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 40.00% |
| Gare Danny | 1974-85 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 40.00% |
| Plager Barclay | 1967-76 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 6 | 40.00% |
| Conacher Lionel | 1925-37 | 15 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 40.00% |
| Abel Clarence | 1926-34 | 15 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 6 | 40.00% |
| Broadbent Punch | 1918-29 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 40.00% |
| Jackman Barret | 2001-16 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 40.00% |
| Prust Brandon | 2010-15 | 10 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 40.00% |
| Boivin Leo | 1953-70 | 10 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 40.00% |
| Evans Jack | 1955-63 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 40.00% |
** - min 8 series.
Most Times, "No PIM" in Playoff Series
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER | NOPIM_SER |
| Lidstrom Nicklas | 1991-12 | 48 | 22 |
| Boucher Frank | 1921-37 | 25 | 20 |
| Gretzky Wayne | 1979-97 | 42 | 20 |
| Stanfield Fred | 1964-77 | 22 | 19 |
| Pandolfo Jay | 1996-09 | 24 | 18 |
| Middleton Rick | 1974-88 | 24 | 18 |
| Yzerman Steve | 1983-06 | 40 | 18 |
| Leddy Nick | 2010-22 | 23 | 17 |
| Ratelle Jean | 1966-81 | 24 | 17 |
| Hull Dennis | 1964-78 | 24 | 17 |
| Mullen Joe | 1979-97 | 29 | 17 |
| Goring Butch | 1973-85 | 29 | 17 |
| Kelly Red | 1947-67 | 31 | 17 |
| Hull Brett | 1985-04 | 37 | 17 |
| Johansson Marcus | 2010-23 | 19 | 16 |
| Howe Syd | 1929-45 | 20 | 16 |
| Madden John | 1999-12 | 25 | 16 |
| Bucyk Johnny | 1955-77 | 26 | 16 |
| Filppula Valtteri | 2006-19 | 29 | 16 |
| Pavelski Joe | 2006-23 | 34 | 16 |
| Keon Dave | 1960-80 | 18 | 15 |
| Napier Mark | 1978-89 | 19 | 15 |
| Marshall Donnie | 1954-72 | 20 | 15 |
| Datsyuk Pavel | 2001-16 | 29 | 15 |
| Richer Stephane | 1985-02 | 29 | 15 |
| Fast Jesper | 2013-23 | 16 | 14 |
| Henning Lorne | 1974-81 | 17 | 14 |
| Tarasenko Vladimir | 2012-23 | 18 | 14 |
| Cain Herb | 1933-46 | 19 | 14 |
| Lehtinen Jere | 1996-08 | 20 | 14 |
| Scuderi Rob | 2006-16 | 22 | 14 |
| McNab Peter | 1974-84 | 22 | 14 |
| MacLeish Rick | 1970-84 | 24 | 14 |
| Bossy Mike | 1977-87 | 28 | 14 |
| Rafalski Brian | 1999-11 | 30 | 14 |
| Carbonneau Guy | 1982-00 | 43 | 14 |
| Romnes Doc | 1930-39 | 15 | 13 |
| Sinisalo Ilkka | 1981-91 | 16 | 13 |
| Apps Syl | 1936-48 | 16 | 13 |
| Karlsson William | 2016-23 | 17 | 13 |
| Leach Reggie | 1970-81 | 20 | 13 |
| Metz Nick | 1934-48 | 20 | 13 |
| Janney Craig | 1987-98 | 22 | 13 |
| Merrick Wayne | 1972-84 | 22 | 13 |
| Westfall Ed | 1967-79 | 22 | 13 |
| Murdoch Murray | 1926-37 | 22 | 13 |
| Brylin Sergei | 1994-08 | 23 | 13 |
| Cournoyer Yvan | 1964-78 | 28 | 13 |
| Donskoi Joonas | 2015-21 | 15 | 12 |
| Larouche Pierre | 1974-87 | 17 | 12 |
| Dumart Woody | 1936-54 | 17 | 12 |
| Dillon Cecil | 1930-40 | 17 | 12 |
| St. Marseille Frank | 1967-77 | 18 | 12 |
| Couture Logan | 2009-19 | 20 | 12 |
| Christian Dave | 1981-94 | 21 | 12 |
| Ramsay Craig | 1972-85 | 21 | 12 |
| Stepan Derek | 2010-23 | 22 | 12 |
| Delvecchio Alex | 1951-70 | 22 | 12 |
| Reid Dave | 1984-01 | 23 | 12 |
| Sydor Darryl | 1992-08 | 27 | 12 |
| Young Scott | 1987-04 | 27 | 12 |
| Modano Mike | 1988-11 | 33 | 12 |
| Krushelnyski Mike | 1981-95 | 33 | 12 |
| Bourne Bob | 1974-88 | 33 | 12 |
| Hossa Marian | 1998-17 | 37 | 12 |
Most Playoff Series, without "No PIM"
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER |
| Hunter Dale | 1980-99 | 34 |
| Pronger Chris | 1995-11 | 32 |
| Smith Steve | 1985-97 | 28 |
| Tocchet Rick | 1984-01 | 27 |
| Mellanby Scott | 1986-07 | 25 |
| Hatcher Derian | 1991-08 | 24 |
| Momesso Sergio | 1986-97 | 23 |
| O'Reilly Terry | 1972-85 | 22 |
| Manson Dave | 1986-01 | 21 |
| Diduck Gerald | 1986-00 | 21 |
| Williams Dave | 1974-87 | 21 |
| Hamrlik Roman | 1995-13 | 20 |
| Peplinski Jim | 1980-89 | 20 |
| McClelland Kevin | 1981-89 | 20 |
| Hogue Benoit | 1988-01 | 19 |
| Taylor Dave | 1977-93 | 19 |
| Plett Willi | 1976-88 | 19 |
| Milbury Mike | 1975-87 | 19 |
| Weber Shea | 2005-21 | 18 |
| Zhitnik Alexei | 1992-07 | 18 |
| Neely Cam | 1983-95 | 18 |
| Watters Tim | 1981-93 | 18 |
| Murray Glen | 1991-08 | 17 |
| Clark Wendel | 1985-00 | 17 |
| Ramage Rob | 1982-93 | 17 |
| Russell Phil | 1972-83 | 17 |
| Mitchell Willie | 2002-14 | 16 |
| Tkachuk Keith | 1991-09 | 16 |
| Varada Vaclav | 1997-06 | 16 |
| Churla Shane | 1986-97 | 16 |
| Wilson Behn | 1978-88 | 16 |
| Fraser Curt | 1978-87 | 16 |
| Maxwell Brad | 1979-86 | 16 |
| Stemkowski Pete | 1964-78 | 16 |
| Ferguson John | 1963-71 | 16 |
| Shore Eddie | 1926-40 | 16 |
| Krupp Uwe | 1987-02 | 15 |
| Konstantinov Vladimir | 1991-97 | 15 |
| Moller Randy | 1981-94 | 15 |
| Hunter Mark | 1981-92 | 15 |
| Sutter Brian | 1976-88 | 15 |
| Paiement Wilf | 1977-86 | 15 |
| Gare Danny | 1974-85 | 15 |
| Pilote Pierre | 1958-69 | 15 |
| Malakhov Vladimir | 1992-04 | 14 |
| Boschman Laurie | 1979-92 | 14 |
| Nill Jim | 1981-89 | 14 |
| Schultz Dave | 1972-79 | 14 |
| Brewer Carl | 1958-71 | 14 |
| Bennett Sam | 2014-23 | 13 |
| Foligno Nick | 2007-23 | 13 |
| Barnaby Matthew | 1992-04 | 13 |
| King Kris | 1988-00 | 13 |
| Fleury Theo | 1988-99 | 13 |
| Cavallini Paul | 1987-95 | 13 |
| Hartsburg Craig | 1979-86 | 13 |
| Hutchison Dave | 1974-82 | 13 |
| Jonathan Stan | 1976-82 | 13 |
| Van Impe Ed | 1966-76 | 13 |
| Thomson Jimmy | 1946-56 | 13 |
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Most Times, "Top 5 in PTS and PIM" in Playoff Series
| Player | Seasons | TOT_SER | PTS#1 | PTS#2 | PTS#3 | PTS#4 | PTS#5 | PIM#1 | PIM#2 | PIM#3 | PIM#4 | PIM#5 | TOP5_PTS_PIM |
| Richard Maurice | 1943-57 | 26 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 9 | |
| Malkin Evgeni | 2007-17 | 32 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 9 | ||
| Beliveau Jean | 1954-67 | 32 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 8 | ||
| Howe Gordie | 1948-65 | 30 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 7 | ||
| Morenz Howie | 1923-33 | 18 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 7 | |||
| Lindsay Ted | 1948-59 | 24 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 7 | |||
| Tikkanen Esa | 1987-97 | 35 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 7 | ||||
| Kucherov Nikita | 2014-22 | 26 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 6 | |||
| Tocchet Rick | 1986-00 | 27 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 6 | |||
| Pronger Chris | 1997-06 | 32 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 6 | ||||
| Stevens Kevin | 1990-93 | 18 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 6 | ||
| Forsberg Peter | 1998-03 | 27 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 5 | ||||
| Marchand Brad | 2010-22 | 25 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 5 | ||||
| Lindros Eric | 1994-97 | 12 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5 | ||
| Joliat Aurel | 1922-33 | 20 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 5 | ||
| Boucher Billy | 1922-25 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 5 | |||
| Denneny Cy | 1920-23 | 14 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | ||||
| Hunter Dale | 1980-93 | 34 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 5 | |||
| Trottier Bryan | 1978-84 | 45 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | |||||
| Messier Mark | 1982-96 | 47 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | |||||
| Broadbent Punch | 1922-26 | 15 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 4 | ||||||
| Getzlaf Ryan | 2006-15 | 22 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | |||
| Shore Eddie | 1926-36 | 16 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 4 | |||||
| Plett Willi | 1980-85 | 19 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 4 | ||||
| Unger Garry | 1970-76 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 4 | ||||
| Chelios Chris | 1988-95 | 53 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 4 | |||||
| Gare Danny | 1977-80 | 15 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | |||
| Geoffrion Bernie | 1951-60 | 26 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | ||||
| Thornton Joe | 2005-16 | 33 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | ||||
| Lemieux Claude | 1991-97 | 44 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | ||||
| Courtnall Geoff | 1991-98 | 29 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | ||||
| Savard Denis | 1982-91 | 34 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 4 | |||||
| Lapointe Martin | 1996-00 | 23 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | ||||||
| Coffey Paul | 1984-95 | 41 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | |||||
| Brière Daniel | 2006-10 | 23 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | ||||||
| Perry Corey | 2006-15 | 35 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | ||||||
| Subban P.K. | 2013-17 | 17 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Ovechkin Alex | 2010-19 | 24 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Linseman Ken | 1979-81 | 25 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Corson Shayne | 1990-98 | 27 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Neely Cam | 1989-91 | 18 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Siebert Babe | 1925-28 | 19 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||||
| Landeskog Gabriel | 2017-22 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
| Fredrickson Frank | 1925-27 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Lucic Milan | 2008-20 | 23 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Bergeron Patrice | 2010-19 | 30 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
| Williams Justin | 2005-17 | 29 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Conacher Charlie | 1931-36 | 16 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | ||||||
| Silfverberg Jakob | 2014-16 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Stewart Nels | 1925-28 | 19 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Byfuglien Dustin | 2009-19 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Bridgman Mel | 1977-83 | 26 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Watson Phil | 1936-42 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
| Smith Hooley | 1926-32 | 21 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Iginla Jarome | 2003-13 | 14 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Jagr Jaromir | 2000-08 | 38 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | ||||||
| Lecavalier Vincent | 2002-07 | 13 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | ||||||
| Deadmarsh Adam | 1998-00 | 18 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Bellows Brian | 1982-93 | 27 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Anderson Glenn | 1986-88 | 43 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | ||||||
| Potvin Denis | 1974-77 | 38 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
| Langenbrunner Jamie | 1999-06 | 29 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||||
| O'Reilly Terry | 1977-82 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Robert Rene | 1976-79 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | |||||
| Cook Bill | 1926-28 | 19 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | ||||||
| Boucher George | 1920-24 | 15 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | ||||
| Mikita Stan | 1961-75 | 30 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | |||||
| Nieuwendyk Joe | 1998-00 | 30 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
MadLuke
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One day the ability of Lidstrom to play so many minutes with strong defense without putting his team on the PK will be way more valued than during his time I suspect. A bit more like getting on the line, putting opponent on the line in basketball.
Every 2PIM you take is around giving away 0.2 goal plus removing offense for your team for that time.
Every 2PIM you take is around giving away 0.2 goal plus removing offense for your team for that time.
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Generally speaking you're correct about high-PIM players costing their team points. It would be 0.2 for every 2 PIMs perhaps, but then you have to remove the PIMs accumulated that don't actually put your team at a disadvantage because they were fights or otherwise offsetting penalties.
The Flyers won Game 6 of the 1974 Finals 1-0 by a goal scored on a 4-on-3 PP. Not only should Bobby Clarke not be penalized (by us after the fact, obviously he should have still gone to the box) for drawing an offsetting penalty with Bobby Orr, it should be held up as a point in Clarke's favour.
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Net PIM being obviously the wanted value here, creating penalty with your play being the other side of the coin, giving 0.2 goals to your team and shutting down the opposition for 2 minutes. Mario Lemieux for example was maybe lethal in that regard, boosting a team PPO and PP% at the same time.
I don't know if there's any evidence for that.
Here's Pittsburgh in the playoffs:
| Year | PPO/GP | Rk | PP% | Rk | Net PP% | Rk |
| 1989 | 6.36 | 3 | 22.9 | 2 | 17.1 | 7 |
| 1991 | 5.71 | 5 | 19.0 | 10 | 16.1 | 10 |
| 1992 | 4.86 | 12 | 24.5 | 2 | 21.6 | 2 |
| 1993 | 4.33 | T-11 | 23.1 | 5 | 13.5 | 12 |
| 1994 | 4.50 | 11 | 7.4 | 15 | 0.0 | 16 |
| 1995 | 4.83 | 8 | 19.0 | 7 | 17.2 | 6 |
| 1996 | 5.56 | 6 | 16.0 | 9 | 16.0 | 7 |
| 1997 | 4.60 | 9 | 17.4 | 7 | 8.7 | 13 |
| 1998 | 5.50 | 11 | 12.1 | 11 | 12.1 | 10 |
| 1999 | 3.46 | 16 | 17.8 | 6 | 15.6 | 5 |
| 2000 | 5.09 | 4 | 14.3 | 11 | 12.5 | 9 |
| 2001 | 3.39 | 15 | 18.0 | 8 | 13.1 | 10 |
Observations
- They ate a lot of SH goals on the PP. 1992 is the only year where they have a very strong net PP%
- PP chances were high in 1989, and kind of high in 1991 and 1996 (just looking at Lemieux years). But they don't look to be anything special or attributable to Lemieux (Pens got 5.5 chances per game against 92 Rangers, which Lemieux mostly missed - though he did take at least one slash).
- PP% is high in 1989, 1992, and 1993. Beyond that, the Penguins PP% is above average, with or without Lemieux. (Except for the historically terrible 1994, with a 0.0% net PP%.)
- Opponents help determine PP chances too. Running into the 2001 Devils is probably bad for getting PP chances, while playing the 1989 Flyers helps a ton.
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I would look over larger sample of game than a single series to try to find one, sadly it seem that hockey reference game log has PPG but not PPO in the season back then.
If we look at raw penalty minutes as a proxy, the opponent do not seem to get more when Mario play they go down a lot for both teams when Lemieux is in the games, but considering how large 5 minutes.
In the 1991-1992 and 92-93 season looking at the very imperfect PIM:
Mario "relying on the PP"?
Thought this topic deserves a thread of it's own since it seems to be an accepted narrative that Mario's numbers are inflated due to the PP and need to be adjusted. His 92/93 season would appear to disprove the claim that Mario would have been less dominant in eras with lower amounts of PPs or...
Penguins go from a +0.42 Minute a game team to a -23 minutes, a nice shift of more than half a minute, scoring 1.03 goal a game on the PP to a 1.26, but maybe it is not by adding PPO, just a better PP%.
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1) He did, so there's something wrong with the data gathering in the OP.
2) Leading a series is less significant than leading one's team, it's a relative figure. If the team wins the series and the player leads their team in scoring, that's far more significant than leading the series in scoring but losing the series.
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Thornton led his team in points in a series (Round 2 2007). But I can't find him leading an entire series in points.
I.... Am extremely confused by this statement? How exactly is leading your team more impressive than leading the entire series? That means you outscored the other team aswell.... Which is how you win hockey games. I seriously think I may be in the twilight zone here.
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You removed leading your team + beating the opponent and winning the series vs leading a series you did not win in scoring, we can assume the poster will consider winning the series and leading the series at scoring the best among the 3 scenario obviously.
