i agree on both counts.I think the fact that a team lead by Lalonde, Taylor, Bentley, Seibert and Hall won last time, we can say for certain that there is no bias towards modern players. We are all knowledgable people who do their research.
If we split, the drafts should be completely seperate, that is, any player taken in one is eligable in the other.
Veterans with a co-g.m.:
God Bless Canada & raleh
vancityluongo & Tricolore#20
nayld psycho & sturminator
Veterans interested in having a co-g.m.:
cottonking (willing to be co-g.m.)
murphy (might be interested in co-g.m.ing)
MXD (co-g.m.ing might be his best option, depending)
arrbez (might or might not want a co-g.m., not sure yet)
Newbies interested in having a co-g.m.:
The Hockey_Guy18 (preferably with a co-g.m.)
FlyersHomerDM03 (would like a fellow newbie co-g.m.)
I think your idea of having a pre 70's & post 70's split has merit & should be considered. I actually think the 2 GM approach slows things down. Although there is a better chance of one of the GM's being on line, I found that many were hesitant to pick without a lot of back & forth discussion with their co-GM.Okay, I guess I have overblown the voting bias claim. However i'm not saying the GM's are trying to be biased toward modern players, it's just because they may be ignorant about older players. I remember when I was a rookie and didn't know alot of the early players (like other rookies in past drafts), but it didn't stop me from entering the draft, and it didn't stop me from voting either. Under my format there will be no issue of ignorance and therfore it would be more fair. Especially when you only have to study 40 years of hockey instead of 90.
Another issue with this draft is that voting opens too early and people vote too early. I remember people voting on series only one or two days after the playoff series started when hardly any discussion had gone on. If people aren't listening to discussion that is a problem, especially when GM's offer enligtenment on some of their less known players on their team.
I don't really care if my idea doesn't pan out, I just think this idea will make the ATD a bit more fair and in my opinion more fun. Like I said it would enable more accurate historical analysis when compairing teams because more players in reality did play against each other. Anyway it's just a suggestion, please dont take this as a complaint. I don't mind having one big draft. Though I am opposed to running two drafts at the same time with all players eligible as I explained before.
VanI-If we need to reduce the amount of teams I might be willing to have a co-GM.
i thought the 2-g.m. approach is a major reason why the minor league draft averaged an entire round per dayI actually think the 2 GM approach slows things down. Although there is a better chance of one of the GM's being on line, I found that many were hesitant to pick without a lot of back & forth discussion with their co-GM.
i thought the 2-g.m. approach is a major reason why the minor league draft averaged an entire round per day
I don't like this suggestion at all. I think both pre and post expansion era players belong in the draft. I'd feel short-changed if I couldn't take Gretzky or Howe with the No. 2 pick overall. The fact that we have all players from all leagues from all eras involved is the element that makes this draft special.
If a GM is more inclined to vote for a team because it has modern NHL players, then maybe that GM shouldn't be in this draft.
I think the day is coming when we will have to split the draft in half. This thing has grown far bigger than I think BM, LL, Spit, JFF and the other founding GMs ever thought it would be. Thirty, maybe 32 teams, is the most that could be comfortably accommodated. Once we reach 32, and if the interest is still there from other knowledgeable posters, it's time for a split. The last thing we ever want to do is say "we can't take new GMs" because we were all new GMs at some point.
Co-GMing works if it's done right, and it's good for the league if it's done right. You need to have two GMs who are on the same page in terms of team direction, priorities and style of play. As much as I respect pappy, I don't know if we'd work well as co-GMs: he favours a more up-tempo, run-and-gun style, while I like that grinding, hard-working defensive game. Or BM: he's done so much with this draft, but he loves picking Europeans. I pick North Americans, or Europeans who played in the NHL. (Could you imagine Wiser and I trying to collaborate on a team)? That's probably why I worked so well with Murphy in the minor league draft: our attitudes towards the game, and building a team, are virtual mirror images.
The other thing you need with co-GMs is constant communication. Murphy and I were often talking about future rounds before we made our picks. Before we got Stoughton and McKegney in Rounds 4 and 5, we were talking about what to do in Rounds 6 and 7. And we finalized those picks right after we picked Stoughton and McKegney. If the GMs are on the same page, and talking regularly, and formulating back-up plans, it works. If they aren't, then it's a problem, because they're unprepared for their pick, and they hold up the process.
In other words, raleh can expect to have his PM box filled with messages from me during the next draft.
The MLD did go quick though I think it was because of you being a tough taskmaster, fewer teams & a more relaxed atnosphere. I really didn't care if i missed a turn. The ATD is a little more cut-throat and I really did notice the 2 GM system slowing things down. It only helps if they are prepared ahead of time & each GM has complete freedom to make a selection. under those circumstances it can work well.i thought the 2-g.m. approach is a major reason why the minor league draft averaged an entire round per day
did any co-g.m. clubs use up their entire time window? i don't think so