All Bruins rumors/proposals: Reset and Sweenified

[Mr. Make-Believe]

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As last thread reaches its limit, I figure this is the perfect time for a reset.

Sweeney has the cap under control and the roster pretty fleshed out. And the opinions are still all over the board.

A couple of teams still have money issues to sort out. A couple of decent names left on the UFA list.

What are we hearing? What are we wanting?

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[Trap Jesus]

Get a legit top 4 D-man, and I'm fine with this offseason.

 

[DitClapper]

Been tooting this horn for too long. Bring him in.

 

[BB88]

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As last thread reaches its limit, I figure this is the perfect time for a reset.

Sweeney has the cap under control and the roster pretty fleshed out. And the opinions are still all over the board.

A couple of teams still have money issues to sort out. A couple of decent names left on the UFA list.

What are we hearing? What are we wanting?

Right now all I care about is getting a real top pairing D, forwards won't be the problem, for next year yes but like I've said many times I'm taking next year as a re-tool year and let the kids have a chance to develop/step up and see a much much better forward group in the 2016 season.

Marchand-Bergeron-Connolly
Eriksson-Krecji-Hayes
Beleskey-Spooner-Pasta
DeBust-Koko-Seny
Kemppainen-Kuraly forward depth to me looks pretty good and something that doesn't have to be worried for a long time. 2 1st round winger picks starting to look great now. Right now we also have 2 pretty good 1st round picks for next year.
That group has ton of speed and more talent than we've had for some time.
If a steal forward trade can be made then ofcourse you do it.

But we don't have this luxury with our D group, we have lots of D prospects but we desperately need a top pairing D and future #1D replacement for Chara, without that you can't win in this league.

If we are looking at just adding a 2nd pairing D-player then Oduya for 2-3years could be great, strong defensive player to help us shutdown opponents and limit Chara's minutes.
Ehrhoff had injury problems and didn't seem to recover for them that well, I'd be looking at Oduya right now, Chicago wants to keep Oduya but they have to get rid of both Bickell+Sharp without taking any cap back.

Get Oduya now and at the draft make sure you come out of it with a 2nd overall pick and your future elite #1D. Let the kids step up now and get them ready for our 2016 cup run, we can add D-players next offseason if have to with our 10M cap space.

But if we must make the playoffs then this post needs fixing but it may hurt our future success. Right now it seems like our cap hell years are over for a long time and I'd like to keep it like that.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

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As last thread reaches its limit, I figure this is the perfect time for a reset.

Sweeney has the cap under control and the roster pretty fleshed out. And the opinions are still all over the board.

A couple of teams still have money issues to sort out. A couple of decent names left on the UFA list.

What are we hearing? What are we wanting?

I want: Kelly >>> trade, out of Boston, future considerations, etc.

 

[neelynugs]

I want: Kelly >>> trade, out of Boston, future considerations, etc.

how about kelly for scrivens?? sign me up

 

[GordonHowe]

Get a legit top 4 D-man, and I'm fine with this offseason.

Basically my thought. Top two if at all possible (Fransen, though likely absurd money). Even with Hamilton, there was a crying need for a top four.

Blue line at present is something of a mess. Sweeney isn't stupid. He'll likely pick up some outside help to approximate DH or at least stabilize a defensive corps that needs solid, NHL depth.

May not happen for a bit, but that's my guess.

 

[Flannelman]

Longterm RHD, cap controlled for a couple years, points but can play PK... Asking too much?

 

[dredeye]

I don't know where he'd slot in but do you guys have any interest in Semin on a one year deal. Could be a nice offensive piece for us. Obviously, not a Bruins type of player but could be a good add and pp specialist for us.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Get a legit top 4 D-man, and I'm fine with this offseason.

I'm calling for the opposite. I don't think Sweeney will bring in top 4D. I think he takes this group into the season, and then eventually trades 1 of the elder dmen in-season (along with Kelly and MAYBE Krejci). I think Sweeney is going to put his full identity on the team and try and give himself a good 7 years as GM. By going younger he basically tells ownership "give me at least 3 years". Best thing for his job security and not a bad thing given the age of Seids and Chara. Still get the last few good years of Bergy and Rask when the rebuild is in full swing.

 

[GordonHowe]

I don't know where he'd slot in but do you guys have any interest in Semin on a one year deal. Could be a nice offensive piece for us. Obviously, not a Bruins type of player but could be a good add and pp specialist for us.

Not to be a meanie, but zero interest in Semin. Not the guy to bring into the culture the B's are attempting to (re)instill. Apparently gifted with tremendous skill, bereft of character. That guy is a "room killer."

 

[bruinmann77]

Don will not overpay for a FA defenseman @this point. if its not by trade he will roll with the players he has.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Not to be a meanie, but zero interest in Semin. Not the guy to bring into the culture the B's are attempting to (re)instill. Apparently gifted with tremendous skill, bereft of character. That guy is a "room killer."

Could not agree more.

 

[Ice Nine]

Right now all I care about is getting a real top pairing D, forwards won't be the problem, for next year yes but like I've said many times I'm taking next year as a re-tool year and let the kids have a chance to develop/step up and see a much much better forward group in the 2016 season.

Marchand-Bergeron-Connolly
Eriksson-Krecji-Hayes
Beleskey-Spooner-Pasta
DeBust-Koko-Seny
Kemppainen-Kuraly forward depth to me looks pretty good and something that doesn't have to be worried for a long time. 2 1st round winger picks starting to look great now. Right now we also have 2 pretty good 1st round picks for next year.
That group has ton of speed and more talent than we've had for some time.
If a steal forward trade can be made then ofcourse you do it.

But we don't have this luxury with our D group, we have lots of D prospects but we desperately need a top pairing D and future #1D replacement for Chara, without that you can't win in this league.

If we are looking at just adding a 2nd pairing D-player then Oduya for 2-3years could be great, strong defensive player to help us shutdown opponents and limit Chara's minutes.
Ehrhoff had injury problems and didn't seem to recover for them that well, I'd be looking at Oduya right now, Chicago wants to keep Oduya but they have to get rid of both Bickell+Sharp without taking any cap back.

Get Oduya now and at the draft make sure you come out of it with a 2nd overall pick and your future elite #1D. Let the kids step up now and get them ready for our 2016 cup run, we can add D-players next offseason if have to with our 10M cap space.

But if we must make the playoffs then this post needs fixing but it may hurt our future success. Right now it seems like our cap hell years are over for a long time and I'd like to keep it like that.

I don't think our forward group is good enough to contend, but I agree we need a top pairing D to replace Hamilton; a young, smooth skating, puck moving D. Also agree this is probably a retool year.

But if this is season is for retooling, what is the point of squandering our minimal cap breathing space by signing from the crop of average UFAs this year? Oduya is just another slowing, aging, D, to add to the rest of our slow, aging, core.

I say try to make a significant hockey trade to acquire someone like Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo, Weber, whatever, some player like that.

If not, then stay put this year, see if Morrow and some of the youngsters have developed, and if not, we miss the playoffs and probably worse, and then with any luck will draft twice in the top 10, possibly top 5, with our 1st round pick and SJS' first rounder next year. Come back hard in 2016/17 with even more cap flexibility (Kelly gone), new elite level 2016 pics, and a better UFA crop to sign D from. Also, Pasta, Spooner matured, and some of the 2015 crop of prospects may also be ready to contribute.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I'm calling for the opposite. I don't think Sweeney will bring in top 4D. I think he takes this group into the season, and then eventually trades 1 of the elder dmen in-season (along with Kelly and MAYBE Krejci). I think Sweeney is going to put his full identity on the team and try and give himself a good 7 years as GM. By going younger he basically tells ownership "give me at least 3 years". Best thing for his job security and not a bad thing given the age of Seids and Chara. Still get the last few good years of Bergy and Rask when the rebuild is in full swing.

Have a feeling that is not what ownership wants to hear.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I don't think our forward group is good enough to contend, but I agree we need a top pairing D to replace Hamilton; a young, smooth skating, puck moving D. Also agree this is probably a retool year.

But if this is season is for retooling, what is the point of squandering our minimal cap breathing space by signing from the crop of average UFAs this year? Oduya is just another slowing, aging, D, to add to the rest of our slow, aging, core.

I say try to make a significant hockey trade to acquire someone like Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo, Weber, whatever, something player like that.

If not, then stay put this year, see if Morrow and some of the youngsters have developed, and if not, miss the playoffs, and draft twice in the top 10, possibly top 5, with our and SJS' first rounder next year. Come back hard in 2016/17 with even more cap flexibility (Kelly gone), new elite picks, and a better UFA crop to sign D from.

Well, that would be very nice.

 

[Ice Nine]

Well, that would be very nice.

Dom was suggesting on the other thread the B's were talking to the Blues for a long, long, while a week back. Also, it's been reported that Blues are listening to offers on Shattenkirk. They're having problems signing Tarasenko, and Shattenkirk is one contract they might consider moving if the offer is a good one.

 

[Danton Heineken]

Been tooting this horn for too long. Bring him in.

I'd love it, but Winnipeg is building for a playoff run. They won't trade a core piece like that in the offseason.

 

[Ice Nine]

Well, that would be very nice.

I've also read that Yandle could at some stage be in play, as the Rangers have also been in talks with the Blues on Shattenkirk. If they snag him, they'd be looking to move Yandle.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Cap situation clarifies after signings today.

Not much room for more upgrades. Kelly remains as our whipping boy but our leadership matrix has been weakened so much i feel keeping him has become a must.

I see kelly taking a paycut on his next contract and finishing his career as a staple for our new and improved 4th line.

The team now seams committed to a right side of pastrnak/hayes/connolly and has debrusk drafted to compete down the road... lots of potenial here but no guantees.

Center is a position of strength. A healthy krejci/bergeron can go toe to tow against any team in nhl and come out on top. Spooner brings more offense than we seen in some time. Kelly is one hell of an advantage for us on 4th line.

Lw starts with two studs in eriksson and marchand. Belasky is counted on to be a third stud now.

Forward group seems very solid planned with the only holes being contract/cap and experience

Defense then becomes the area we MUSTaddress to increase our opportunity for playoff success.

Im not sold krug can become dependable top 4 dman. Hes overpaid to be only a pp specialist. With morrow and miller as lh shot offensive dmen we have much cheaper options for a bottom pair lh shot dman with pp skills.

Meanwhile moving hamilton kills us for rh shot offense from blueline.

I think the remaining move we still need to make is krug and assets for an affordabke rh shot top 4 dman. Whether this becomes a deal for phaneuf who like to play right side... or byfuglin... or we jump on cody franson in ufa...

Chara/seidenberg are clearly counted upon to be top 4... and now we see mcquaidis too. A puckmover is needed to round out this group.

Im not sure how much yandle likes the right side but seidenberg can switch so maybe even yandle could do.

Move krug... add his 3.4 to the 2-3 we have... gives us 5-6 to fit a legitimate to 4 dnan onto the team

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Dom was suggesting on the other thread the B's were talking to the Blues for a long, long, while a week back. Also, it's been reported that Blues are listening to offers on Shattenkirk. They're having problems signing Tarasenko, and Shattenkirk is one contract they might consider moving if the offer is a good one.

What could we offer?

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I've also read that Yandle could at some stage be in play, as the Rangers have also been in talks with the Blues on Shattenkirk. If they snag him, they'd be looking to move Yandle.

Wouldnt yandle be needed to land shattenkirk? If not him than staal?

In all honesty the shattenkirk rumors ring false and hollow. All indication ive seen indicates st louis overrates shattenkirk and wouldnt move him without drastic overpayment.

On the other hand its easy to imagine rangers have a very bad taste in their mouth reguards to yandle.

If rangers want pp qb to compliment mcdonough staal and girardi than krug might be very attractive?

I honestly could see rangers liking khoklachev too.

Id be ok with khoklachev and krug for yandle

 

[BIG BAD BRUINS]

The Boston Bruins and Cody Franson have come to an agreement on a contract. The Bruins will announce it tomorrow morning. Looks like we got that top 4-D everyone! From Lyndon Byers FB page

 

[Ice Nine]

What could we offer?

A bunch of young depth pieces with potential?

They don't have any cap space, so they'd be looking for pics / cheap prospects with upside.

Either our or SJS's 2016 first round pic (I'd prefer sending ours..), Koko, Morrow, and a 2nd round in 2017, with some protection if Shattenkirk doesn't re-sign?

I honestly don't know, I'm just improvising here. I have no idea what may have been the substance of the talks with the Blues.

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

Cap situation clarifies after signings today.

Not much room for more upgrades. Kelly remains as our whipping boy but our leadership matrix has been weakened so much i feel keeping him has become a must.

I see kelly taking a paycut on his next contract and finishing his career as a staple for our new and improved 4th line.

The team now seams committed to a right side of pastrnak/hayes/connolly and has debrusk drafted to compete down the road... lots of potenial here but no guantees.

Center is a position of strength. A healthy krejci/bergeron can go toe to tow against any team in nhl and come out on top. Spooner brings more offense than we seen in some time. Kelly is one hell of an advantage for us on 4th line.

Lw starts with two studs in eriksson and marchand. Belasky is counted on to be a third stud now.

Forward group seems very solid planned with the only holes being contract/cap and experience

Defense then becomes the area we MUSTaddress to increase our opportunity for playoff success.

Im not sold krug can become dependable top 4 dman. Hes overpaid to be only a pp specialist. With morrow and miller as lh shot offensive dmen we have much cheaper options for a bottom pair lh shot dman with pp skills.

Meanwhile moving hamilton kills us for rh shot offense from blueline.

I think the remaining move we still need to make is krug and assets for an affordabke rh shot top 4 dman. Whether this becomes a deal for phaneuf who like to play right side... or byfuglin... or we jump on cody franson in ufa...

Chara/seidenberg are clearly counted upon to be top 4... and now we see mcquaidis too. A puckmover is needed to round out this group.

Im not sure how much yandle likes the right side but seidenberg can switch so maybe even yandle could do.

Move krug... add his 3.4 to the 2-3 we have... gives us 5-6 to fit a legitimate to 4 dnan onto the team

So Krug is over-payed to be a PP specialist but you're ok with Kelly and his "leadership"?

Keep Krug because he will only get better in every area of his game including leadership and move Kelly and his 3m salary and pick up a top 4 dman.