Player Discussion Alain Vigneault Part V
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Have not seen that. But he would just smirk and shrug it off babbling something about getting "good looks" and regrouping in NYC on Sunday between the frenetic chewing anyways.
JT Kreider
FIRE GORDIE CLARK
I love the Rangers with all my heart and have for as long as I can remember. Earliest memories are the Tikkanen game against the Panthers in 97 when I was 7 yers old. But for the past year I've been insanely frustrated with AV to the point where I've watched the least amount of games I have in my entire life. And last night was the boiling point. My hatred for him has now superseded my love for the Rangers. Gluing your best pair to the bench in the final minutes with Holden out there WHO WE ALL SAW COSTING US THIS GAME ALL DAY YESTERDAY is just mindbogglingly stupid. Skjei and Smith were dominating out there. Dominating. Pure domination. Best players on the ice bar none.
WAKE THE **** UP YOU BLIND DICKWAD POS MOTHER****ER
WAKE THE **** UP YOU BLIND DICKWAD POS MOTHER****ER
GeorgeKaplan
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Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
Does anyone know who's in charge of sending defense pairings out on the ice during the game? Is it AV or Beukeboom? Whoever did it needs to take the blame for this loss.
Whoever it is made a mistake in thinking Staal-Holden was trustworthy late in the game. They had the coaching staff's trust, but still, most of us didn't agree with that, and the coaching staff's decision hurt the team. Also, even if they trusted Staal-Holden or not, the person who's throwing defense pairs out there made a big mistake in their time management. If you give up the game tying goal at the end of the game with your shutdown pairing resting on the bench because the coach throwing the pairings out there mismanaged the timing of which pairs see the ice when, that's probably the biggest mistake of the game. Absolutely brutal time management that McD-G was not on the ice at the end, especially McDonagh. The person who messed that up owes McDonagh a big apology. He's the team's best player, the captain and borderline the best defensive defenseman in the league, he absolutely needs to be out there at the end. To mess up his chance to close out the game and then have to answer after the game for other's mistakes is a complete and utter joke.
Whoever it is made a mistake in thinking Staal-Holden was trustworthy late in the game. They had the coaching staff's trust, but still, most of us didn't agree with that, and the coaching staff's decision hurt the team. Also, even if they trusted Staal-Holden or not, the person who's throwing defense pairs out there made a big mistake in their time management. If you give up the game tying goal at the end of the game with your shutdown pairing resting on the bench because the coach throwing the pairings out there mismanaged the timing of which pairs see the ice when, that's probably the biggest mistake of the game. Absolutely brutal time management that McD-G was not on the ice at the end, especially McDonagh. The person who messed that up owes McDonagh a big apology. He's the team's best player, the captain and borderline the best defensive defenseman in the league, he absolutely needs to be out there at the end. To mess up his chance to close out the game and then have to answer after the game for other's mistakes is a complete and utter joke.
PlamsUnlimited
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Well that's the thing, we aren't bad and AV isn't a bad coach but he makes really weird decisions and this one costs the team a pretty important game. It's bad and head scratching moves like that late in a game don't happen, or shouldn't
I think like 5 other guys on the board said he outsmarts himself.
BBKers
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Good analysis. You ride your best horses into the heat of the battle, not your three legged ponies. AV = Napoleon/Custer hybrid with a passion for gum
Yeah I stopped watching this season.
Same with the loss of interest at the garden, there just isn't enough heart or character on this team.
Just a bunch of guys that get to live well in NYC this year.
That's what happens when your coach has OCD & a pre-set of ideas that he will execute neurotically instead of adapting mid-game.
Other coaches know this, they adapt.
Only once did I see AV outcoach a premier coach in the league, and that was against DET when Babcock was there.
The Rangers switched from Man v. Man mid game into the 1-4 and won.
Only game I've seen AV adapt systemically.
Like how does he & Buek not see that Holden doesn't know how to block a shot properly?
It's not like he's coming from a defensive gem of a team in COL. Why bank on him... soft as diarrhea, and Staal... Softer than Bloody Diarrhea out there?
Constantly playing to survive instead of having a killer instinct.... The Rangers need to get Rammer to starting crushing testosterone pills into AV's drink everyday. Maybe he'll that will help him grow a pair.
He is not a bad coach. But he is either so arrogant that he continues to try to insert a square peg into a round hole in the sheer belief that it will eventually go in, or he is not quite so creative and does not understand that beliefs and systems need tweaks.
PlamsUnlimited
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Oh he's definitely arrogant. At least a little. He thinks he'll make it work but sometimes it doesn't work like that. He outsmarts himself sometimes instead of making the simple choice that removed threat more than a risky move.
The awful awful coaching continues. Why Stepan was taking that faceoff is beyond me. AV must go.
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I said it before and I will say it again: As someone who played sports at a professional level, I won't blame the coach for this. Absolutely on the players here.
YoSoyLalo
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Can't fire the players. Can fire the coach after losing to an inferior team in round 1. Having Staal and Holden (who was deemed bad enough to scratch today) is going to cost them this series. Its completely justified to let him go. His playoff performances at home have been horrific. How many times do they need to get shut out at home, because the other team shuts down their vertical game and he has no idea what to do?
Inferno
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I blame a system predicated on stretch passes...breakaway and oddman rushes..
With absolutely zero forecheck or cycle ability whatsoever. Our system has been a playoff joke for a long time. Its gonna keep playing out this way as long as this ahole is running things.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Yes and no. The players have to execute the system, but it's part of the coach's job to keep the team sharp mentally. This team is not sharp mentally. They haven't been in any game of the series.
Inferno
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4 more years
Honestly hope they start out like 0-30 next year so they can be rid of this ****.
4 more years....uuggghhhh
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
He's coached this team that's been bottom of the barrel in analytics for three straight seasons, and they can't score a goal on home ice in the playoffs. He also refuses to play defenseman that can actually contribute offensively and his system sucks.
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