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Eeny Meeny Miny Moe
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AFTERMATH: "You have selected 'Regicide' " | Penguins vs. Rangers | Pens win! 4-1
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Waffle Fries
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I don't get it either but Murray is huge in net.
No one knows yet. I bet if it's not announced this summer, it will be in 2018.
Quick is a brick wall though. Goalies that have similar heights as Fleury.. Quick and Crawford but they got 30 pounds on him.
All depends on the market. If there's a market for him and PIT can make it work (aka get a good return and either a backup in the trade or find a good/great one in FA), then I think you have to seriously consider it. The market (which is going to be extremely limited to begin with) can change quickly, and just because there's potentially a great option there now, doesn't mean there'll be one there in 14 months.
But if there's no market now, then that doesn't mean you force things. As I said, things change, and it's possible that someone who's happy with their goaltending today, could be disappointed enough with in in 14 mths that new options are available.
So would I rush things? No. But if there's a deal there that I liked, I wouldn't pass on it, simply because it might not be there next offseason.
Empoleon8771
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Being heavier doesn't magically make him a different goalie. Quick is an athletic goalie basically to the definition, your entire premise is laughably wrong because of him. Height and weight don't change player style. Guys like Fleury, Quick, Rinne, Rask, Varlamov, Luongo and Holtby are more athletic goalies than blocking goalies (although Holtby is both an amazing athletic and amazing blocking goalie).
Jaded-Fan
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As an aside, I freely admit that I can not help but be amused at the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaast difference in tone we go to as a fan base (though I am sure this is true with every fan base) from game to game based on result.
If I remember after the last game were we not in favor of trading Malkin for whatever we could get for him among other 'time to blow up the team' suggestions?
We bring bipolar disorder to new levels.
If I remember after the last game were we not in favor of trading Malkin for whatever we could get for him among other 'time to blow up the team' suggestions?
We bring bipolar disorder to new levels.
Shaftception
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Funny picture, because in an actual game his shoulder pads rise even higher, almost peak like a mountain, they look so hilariously illegal. Look how absurd they look compared to fleury.
I wonder why.
UnderratedBrooks44
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If you're getting Shore, another nice young prospect and a pick (say 2nd/3rd)? Or Shore and Nuke? Or Guryanov? Probably. Dallas has enough good young F prospects (who are good, but not elite prospects) that they could probably do a deal that makes sense from both sides.
Besides, Niemi would be fine as a backup and could take over as the starter if Murray faltered. You don't see any cap savings (at least nothing significant), but you're getting some quality prospects and protecting Murray while not losing MM/MAF for nothing in a draft.
madinsomniac
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Their logic is at the level of frightened monkeys... And they are throwing their fair share of feces too... I mean this percieved bettman favortism is absurd... What the league favors us because they sometimes call a penalty when a guy breaks a stick on one of our guys heads? I mean what the heck cinstitutes being favored? Getting a 5on 3 called against you where one of the calls was a 4 minute play? Calling one out of every ten runs they take on us... Even when lundqvist got eyeballed by staal ... Staal was only carrying his stick that high because he had just tried to decapitate a pens player with it...
Who needs a goalie, is not on MAFs no trade list AND would be willing to give up someone like that?
The market for MAF (if JR is actually interested in exploring it) is going to be extremely limited. The odds of us getting a top 4D or a top 6F is extremely far fetched. Realistically it'll be for futures. And if said team already has 2 NHL goalies, probably one of those as well for cap/roster reasons.
Speaking Moistly
What a terrible image.
Funny picture, because in an actual game his shoulder pads rise even higher, almost peak like a mountain, they look so hilariously illegal. Look how absurd they look compared to fleury.
I wonder why.
So he's basically managed to double his size. How is he getting away with this?
madinsomniac
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Its just agendas stay quiet till the results support their view... Notice all the Crosby haters are missing right now? Somebody start a "Get Sid off of the top PP" thread and watch how fast they appear...
BeatenLikeRentedMule
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The entire Crosby Era hasn't gone as well as it should have. I wouldn't have believed it in 2009 if someone said that by 2015, the Hawks would have 3 championships while the Pens are still stuck at 1 in the same period of time.
That's what happens when management and the fanbase get sentimental and fall in love with players.
Rutherford has done wonders this year but hopefully, Lemieux and Burkle find new owners soon so that Mario's friends in the organization get the boot when the inevitable rebuild begins.
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tom_servo
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It's ****ing pathetic when that happens. Some people on these message boards have no self-awareness. Their opportunism is such a cliche. It annoys me online, and it annoys me offline. You get much more respect when you can show some humility, such as Terrapin admitting to eating crow about Sheary (who, really, is surprising us all).
BeatenLikeRentedMule
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The thing is, this wasn't a poll of just the Penguin players, it was a poll that involved every player active in the league.
That kind of sentiment on Fleury affects his trade value whether it's fair or not. If a GM's players don't think highly of Fleury, the GM isn't going to make an offer for him.
Fluery's a great guy, but not an elite goaltender. There's as good a chance of him losing a series as there is of him winning one by himself.
BlindWillyMcHurt
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It honestly makes me a little sad and upset that you guys think I'm feeding some agenda or something when it's convenient. I've been talking about this off and on for going on two seasons. It doesn't mean I'm right but it doesn't mean I'm trolling, either.
I regularly come clean when I'm wrong. I'll gladly do it again if/when Malkin can come back around.
I regularly come clean when I'm wrong. I'll gladly do it again if/when Malkin can come back around.
Penguinsyay
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Sheary actually starting on the 1st line? What is going on with the world. Hopefully they convert in the first period or it'll be Kunitz back up there again. I'd feel bad for Malkin, being stuck with Kunitz and Fehr, if he wasn't also playing like crap.
Things are looking up, but I still hate that Schultz is getting the shaft for no apparent reason. It looked like he was on his way to a complete reformation, now I'm afraid that'll probably happen with some other club.
Things are looking up, but I still hate that Schultz is getting the shaft for no apparent reason. It looked like he was on his way to a complete reformation, now I'm afraid that'll probably happen with some other club.
Tell you what . . . we'll see Thursday whether my 'pace' theory holds, because if it doesn't, then the Pens have a big short and long term problem . . . and your Randy Quaid Major League II schtick might be closer to the truth than not.
Maybe... maybe not. Would really depend on what happens with Lovejoy this summer. If we let him walk and explain that JS will be a regular, perhaps it's a non-issue. Perhaps it's an issue. Guess we'll find out this summer. The good news is that there is no guarantee that Schultz going elsewhere will have the same success he had here when he first came over.
