A SERIOUS DEBATE: What return will trading Sekera bring?

[Anton Babchuk]

Sutter seems to be the target of some criticism, and Dumoulin keeps getting jumped on the depth chart. Jury is still out on Pouliot, but from the Canes side, it's more about who they would have drafted. I forget who was supposedly on their list, but I don't think it was him.

Though on the other hand, Jordan Staal has 2 goals in 20 games so clearly he's not buying in

good north american boy greg o'renko was who the hurricanes would have drafted

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

the jstallo trade was a great one

sutter is bad
dumoulin is still in the ahl

pouliot is the only player the pens got that has any chance of being an above average NHLer. or even average.

the trade was hated by hurricanes fans because they had an irrational love for brandon sutter. plus dumoulin is tall. that's really the entirety of it.

Sir, you are amazing.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Sutter seems to be the target of some criticism, and Dumoulin keeps getting jumped on the depth chart. Jury is still out on Pouliot, but from the Canes side, it's more about who they would have drafted. I forget who was supposedly on their list, but I don't think it was him.

If we had kept the draft pick, I'm pretty sure we all were hoping to grab Forsberg. Which wouldn't have been a terrible decision...

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1214147

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

If we had kept the draft pick, I'm pretty sure we all were hoping to grab Forsberg. Which wouldn't have been a terrible decision...

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1214147

call me crazy, but I think we still came out ahead in that trade, even with Forsberg on the board. I would do it again.

 

[bluedevil58*]

call me crazy, but I think we still came out ahead in that trade, even with Forsberg on the board. I would do it again.

I wonder what this team would be like without this trade:

Eric Staal
Forsberg
Sutter
Nash/Rask

Seems legit to me.... I should not dwell on these type of things.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

call me crazy, but I think we still came out ahead in that trade, even with Forsberg on the board. I would do it again.

Given the way this team develops prospects, I'd say you're right. I doubt Forsberg would have developed anywhere near as good with the Canes as he has with Washington/Nashville.

...Seriously though, how does Jeff Daniels still have a job?

 

[Anton Babchuk]

 

[Anton Babchuk]

I wonder what this team would be like without this trade:

Eric Staal
Forsberg
Sutter
Nash/Rask

Seems legit to me.... I should not dwell on these type of things.

you are aware that forsberg doesn't play C right

 

[Sens1Canes2]

still developing? sutter is six months younger than staal. and no, he's not looking very good. he's a mediocre third line C who skates really fast.

Lol six months younger. I didn't know that.

 

[bluedevil58*]

you are aware that forsberg doesn't play C right

Whoops I thought he did. SO in that case, we're probably better off now from a down the middle stand point then we would have been without Jordan.

 

[Swag Surf Aho]

I would've liked to keep Sutter but there's no way we could've lost that trade, even with Forsberg and Trouba still on the board.

Looks like we dodged a bullet there...

 

[Joe McGrath]

To be fair, he only expected his best players to play to their own potential, and these expectations created an assumption that the team was perpetually "close." I might have done the same thing, minus the "throwing in a 4th" every time he made a small trade.

Someone rate the J Staal trade for me. As far as I know, the 2 "prospects" from that trade haven't blown the doors off yet.

It's damn near impossible to never have 2 1st round picks in you entire 17 year career as a general manager, especially if you missed the playoffs 12 times. the man did not value 1st round draft picks and for a budget team that's damn stupid.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

It's damn near impossible to never have 2 1st round picks in you entire 17 year career as a general manager, especially if you missed the playoffs 12 times. the man did not value 1st round draft picks and for a budget team that's damn stupid.

he preferred to build the team through lower round picks that he also never hit on

 

[Navin R Slavin]

So, given that this exact topic is being discussed on at least three other active threads, why did you start this thread?

 

[bluedevil58*]

So we have one place to discuss this topic that is clearly defined.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Boom goes the dynamite.

 

[JClaus33]

Sutter seems to be the target of some criticism, and Dumoulin keeps getting jumped on the depth chart. Jury is still out on Pouliot, but from the Canes side, it's more about who they would have drafted. I forget who was supposedly on their list, but I don't think it was him.

Though on the other hand, Jordan Staal has 2 goals in 20 games so clearly he's not buying in

Apparently it was Grigorenko

edit: I missed the whole 2nd page, where I was beaten to it by quite a bit

 

[NotOpie]

#threenowfourthreads

#discuss

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Rangers fan here. I'd do Moore, McIlrath, Kristo and best 2nd for Sekera rental and mcClement. We need a good 3C face off guy as well.

 

[raynman]

Rangers fan here. I'd do Moore, McIlrath, Kristo and best 2nd for Sekera rental and mcClement. We need a good 3C face off guy as well.

McClement ain't no 3rd line center.

 

[NotOpie]

Rangers fan here. I'd do Moore, McIlrath, Kristo and best 2nd for Sekera rental and mcClement. We need a good 3C face off guy as well.

The only thing of value in this proposition is the 2nd round pick and that is likely late in the 2nd. McIlraith is a bust, Kristo is a nobody, and Moore is another 3rd pairing guy. Just not going to happen....

 

[NotOpie]

Now it looks like the return for Sekera could be declining (at least from a lot of our hopes).

http://spectorshockey.net/blog/nhl-rumor-mill-part-two-february-19-2015/

2nd and a prospect at best with no qualifier as to how good the prospect would be. I'm really surprised that Anaheim and Tampa Bay are not angling for Andrej aggressively. Have not really heard them mentioned except as speculative candidates.

 

[DaveG]

So, given that this exact topic is being discussed on at least three other active threads, why did you start this thread?

bingo