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Don't forget Sauer also ....
You are going to need a bit more then Staal Sauer Sangunetti to stop Crosby Malkin & THE REAL STAAL ( Well other then Eric that is )
Don't forget Sauer also ....
Most places rated Bouwmeester over Lehtonen if my memory serves me correctly. The Blue Jackets traded up to #1 in order to make sure they got Nash, as there was an overly complicated side deal where CLB/ATL/FLA would take Nash, Lehtonen, and Bouwmeester in that order.
Teams really shouldn't draft for need. Most prospects taken out of the top 5 are usually 3-4 years away from really making an NHL impact. What you need today will most likely be very different from what you need 3-4 years from now. Best strategy is to take the best player, or at least who you think is the best player and accumulate assets.
And really, who you think is the best player available might differ entirely from what an NHL team thinks is the best available player.
You are going to need a bit more then Staal Sauer Sangunetti to stop Crosby Malkin & THE REAL STAAL ( Well other then Eric that is )
You are going to need a bit more then Staal Sauer Sangunetti to stop Crosby Malkin & THE REAL STAAL ( Well other then Eric that is )
lehtonen is a goalie they take longer to develop. if atlanta had the #1 pick they would have taken lehtonen. lehtonen will prove himself this season i think. if he doesn't get injured.
i have compared what i have seen of him vs. the other guys and he just doesn't look as good as the other guys. i could be wrong dought. just my opnion. i'm not saying he is a bust. but i just dont think he will make it in the nhl, but hopefully he proves me wrong.
Ok - so for the Thrashers maybe Lehtonen was CLEARLY the best player in that draft but many other teams probably thought differently.
I'd rather have you tell me what you see in his game, just his game to explain to be how he is "looking like a bust" to you.
if atlanta had the #1 pick they would have taken lehtonen.
I'd rather have you tell me what you see in his game, just his game to explain to be how he is "looking like a bust" to you.
Well, i LOVE the Price pick as a Habs fan. Danis or Halak won't do it IMO and Price will be a stud, mark my words.
Pelech is an easy name to put bust beside. He's got a long way to go to grow into his body -it's possible, I think he has the heart and character to do it. Injuries have slowed his development a lot and he looked pretty awkward out there last year. Perhaps 4 years down the road, if he really improves, he can be a 4th or 5 dman in the NHL. But the odds are against him.
Teams really shouldn't draft for need. Most prospects taken out of the top 5 are usually 3-4 years away from really making an NHL impact. What you need today will most likely be very different from what you need 3-4 years from now. Best strategy is to take the best player, or at least who you think is the best player and accumulate assets.
Well, ideally, it should be both for need AND one of the best players available.
If you're a team without a bluechip defenceman, how could you pass one up even though your scouts are sold on a scoring winger? Asset management comes in to play there too, because you'd have to think: "If we pass on this defenceman now, who are we going to have to trade to get him later?"
I'm not sure why that means Lehtonen was the best player in the draft. In 2003, the top 4 teams all had different guys rated as #1 on their board.
No offense but the last 4 or 5 years the Anaheim scouting staff has a good record considering they haven't picked in the top 5 since 2001. I think Brule may have been a better pick because he's going to be ready to make an impact sooner, but people quickly forget Bobby Ryan was dominating the OHL, on a team that lacked offensive talent up until a leg injury. And considering his legs already needed work before it ruined his second half.sometimes you draft on need. just think about 2002 kari lehtonen was clearly the best player in that draft, but the blue jackets passed on him because they had pascal leclaire. and this year riku helenius was not the best player available at #15 but tampa needed a goalie for the future.
You are going to need a bit more then Staal Sauer Sangunetti to stop Crosby Malkin & THE REAL STAAL ( Well other then Eric that is )
i justed wanted to look back at the first round of the 05 draft an give some comments on some of the selections. because i feel some of the where pretty bad. any feedback would be nice because i will probably not be right one every one.
1. sidney crosby. nothing to say
2. bobby ryan. how could they pass on jack johnson they did not have pronger and niedermayer when they made this pick.
3. jack johnson. they where probably amazed by the facts that he was still available.
4. benoit pouliot. nice pick
5. carey price. i hate this pick. gilbert brule was still there and they did not take him
i dont understand that
6. gilbert brule. steal!!!!
7. jack skille. another nice pick.
8. devin setoguchi. how could they take setoguchi over kopitar
9. brian lee. i like this pick. considerin the amazing defence the senators have they could afford to take a risk on lee who i think will be a homerun.
10. luc bourdon. very nice. ecspesialally now with jovanovski gone. bourdon will soon be ready for nhl action maybe even this season.
11. anze kopitar. another steal.
12. marc staal. i cant believe he dropped this far. the rangers have some quality defence prospects in staal and sanguinetti.
13. marek zagrapan. i see him as a little bit of a risk, but i hope this ends up as a good selection.
14. sasha pokulok. i dont now very much about him, but i think he whent too high. he could be good for the capitals dought. they need some defence that can shut the oponents down.
15. ryan o'marra. great pick.
16. alex bourret. i think this will be a homerun. just look at his development.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=00070696
17. martin hanzal. ok pick. small risk, but mcardle or bergfors would have been better i think.
18. ryan parent. good pick should be solid.
19. jakub kindl. the red wings team needs some young talent. great pick. whent later then i would have thought.
20. kendall mcardle. nice pick. did also have to wait a little to long for him.
21. tuukka rask. great pick.
22. matt lashoff. ok pick. nice development this season.
23. niklas bergors. could be THE steal of the draft.
24. t.j. oshie. very nice pick. he had a great season with north dakota
25. andrew cogliano. i dont really now. i kind of wanted stoa on this one.
26. matt pelech. looks like a future bust.
27. joe finley. ok pick. caplitals sure was looking for defence on this draft.
28. matt niskanen. looks good.
29. steve downie. great pick. could be an amazing power forward
30. valdimir mihalik. i dont know. doesn't look to good.
how could pouliot a nice pick , but carey price a bad pick , imo brule ,kopitar and many other own pouliot
In particular, I remember the Isles in 1997 when they had the #4 and #5 picks. For sure they would take at least one forward with the picks since they were pretty stacked on young defense..
i have compared what i have seen of him vs. the other guys and he just doesn't look as good as the other guys. i could be wrong dought. just my opnion. i'm not saying he is a bust. but i just dont think he will make it in the nhl, but hopefully he proves me wrong.
i justed wanted to look back at the first round of the 05 draft an give some comments on some of the selections. because i feel some of the where pretty bad. any feedback would be nice because i will probably not be right one every one.
1. sidney crosby. nothing to say
2. bobby ryan. how could they pass on jack johnson they did not have pronger and niedermayer when they made this pick.
3. jack johnson. they where probably amazed by the facts that he was still available.
4. benoit pouliot. nice pick
5. carey price. i hate this pick. gilbert brule was still there and they did not take him
i dont understand that
6. gilbert brule. steal!!!!
7. jack skille. another nice pick.
8. devin setoguchi. how could they take setoguchi over kopitar
9. brian lee. i like this pick. considerin the amazing defence the senators have they could afford to take a risk on lee who i think will be a homerun.
10. luc bourdon. very nice. ecspesialally now with jovanovski gone. bourdon will soon be ready for nhl action maybe even this season.
11. anze kopitar. another steal.
12. marc staal. i cant believe he dropped this far. the rangers have some quality defence prospects in staal and sanguinetti.
13. marek zagrapan. i see him as a little bit of a risk, but i hope this ends up as a good selection.
14. sasha pokulok. i dont now very much about him, but i think he whent too high. he could be good for the capitals dought. they need some defence that can shut the oponents down.
15. ryan o'marra. great pick.
16. alex bourret. i think this will be a homerun. just look at his development.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=00070696
17. martin hanzal. ok pick. small risk, but mcardle or bergfors would have been better i think.
18. ryan parent. good pick should be solid.
19. jakub kindl. the red wings team needs some young talent. great pick. whent later then i would have thought.
20. kendall mcardle. nice pick. did also have to wait a little to long for him.
21. tuukka rask. great pick.
22. matt lashoff. ok pick. nice development this season.
23. niklas bergors. could be THE steal of the draft.
24. t.j. oshie. very nice pick. he had a great season with north dakota
25. andrew cogliano. i dont really now. i kind of wanted stoa on this one.
26. matt pelech. looks like a future bust.
27. joe finley. ok pick. caplitals sure was looking for defence on this draft.
28. matt niskanen. looks good.
29. steve downie. great pick. could be an amazing power forward
30. valdimir mihalik. i dont know. doesn't look to good.
true, Pouliot doesn't compare to Brule. This might look bad in a few years. Pouliot was a risky pick and I haven't seen anything in the OHL which would indicate he's worthy of a 1st rounder never mind better than Brule. Most Sudbury fans would probably agree with me.