Value of: A gently used Patrick Marleau

[Kamiccolo]

Let’s assume he agrees to waive his NMC after this year for whatever reason. What is his value? Great leader and mentor, makes you better just by walking by you. A lot of NHL games and he ocassionly looks like his younger self but most of the time can’t handle a pass and has lost a step. Err didn’t mean to put that last part..

I’ll start the bidding at Marleau + 2nd 2019 at the draft for a 7th rounder. No long term bad contracts coming back please.

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[Starat327]

Let’s assume he agrees to waive his NMC after this year for whatever reason. What is his value? Great leader and mentor, makes you better just by walking by you. A lot of NHL games and he ocassionly looks like his younger self but most of the time can’t handle a pass and has lost a step. Err didn’t mean to put that last part..

I’ll start the bidding at Marleau + 2nd 2019 at the draft for a 7th rounder. No long term bad contracts coming back please.

A lot of the negative value is that he has a NMC and kinda controls his destiny. If were assuming he is willling to waive for anyone, it wont cost nearly as much to move him. The problem is he isnt (likely) going to waive for just anyone.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Milan Lucic?

 

[Kamiccolo]

Milan Lucic?

Did you read the OP?

 

[A91]

Youd get out of the Marleau contract pretty easily I would assume, could see him having value

 

[Kamiccolo]

Youd get out of the Marleau contract pretty easily I would assume, could see him having value

Make an offer.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Let’s assume he agrees to waive his NMC after this year for whatever reason. What is his value? Great leader and mentor, makes you better just by walking by you. A lot of NHL games and he ocassionly looks like his younger self but most of the time can’t handle a pass and has lost a step. Err didn’t mean to put that last part..

I’ll start the bidding at Marleau + 2nd 2019 at the draft for a 7th rounder. No long term bad contracts coming back please.

Canucks offer Tim Schaller (sorta helps your toughness need) for Marleau + 2019 2nd and 3rd

Schaller is signed through next season at 1.9M

 

[613Leafer]

1.25M in actual salary next season (if traded after July 1st).

I definitely think he has positive value for a bunch of teams in this league at that # (at least those that don't spend to the cap). Issue is the NMC. At his age, I can't see him wanting to displace his family, especially seeing as he's already on a contending Leafs team.

 

[Colt55]

Let’s assume he agrees to waive his NMC after this year for whatever reason. What is his value? Great leader and mentor, makes you better just by walking by you. A lot of NHL games and he ocassionly looks like his younger self but most of the time can’t handle a pass and has lost a step. Err didn’t mean to put that last part..

I’ll start the bidding at Marleau + 2nd 2019 at the draft for a 7th rounder. No long term bad contracts coming back please.

How bout jaybo, Steen
For
Marleu 1st 2019

 

[Nervousbreakdown]

If he agrees to wave, I bet you wouldn't have to add to move him. After that bonus is paid there are lenty of copetitive teams who have space because of an internal cap.

 

[Randy Randerson]

if he's willing to waive, he's a great target for a cap floor team after July 1st. He shouldn't cost anything to get rid of if that's the case, otherwise I'd say we're stuck with him until the end of the contract (which was an obviously stupid one to give out right from day 1)

 

[Kamiccolo]

How bout jaybo, Steen
For
Marleu 1st 2019

Pass. Pretty bad for the Leafs

 

[justafan22]

Canucks offer Tim Schaller (sorta helps your toughness need) for Marleau + 2019 2nd and 3rd

Schaller is signed through next season at 1.9M

take out the 3rd rounder and it's a deal

 

[Colt55]

Pass. Pretty bad for the Leafs

Didn't say it was good. But Marleu is 39 years old signed for two more years at like 6.5. Sick

 

[Kamiccolo]

Didn't say it was good. But Marleu is 39 years old signed for two more years at like 6.5. Sick

Uhh this is about after the season. He has 1 year left at 6.5 aav but 1 m salary.

 

[gamer1035]

He has 1.25 million for 1 year.

 

[Canuck Luck]

take out the 3rd rounder and it's a deal

Nahh a late 2nd to take on 4.3M in additional cap space is not worth it.

I’d do gagner 1 year at 3.15 left for Marleau + 2019 2nd then. Leafs get 3.1M in cap savings instead of 4.3M.

 

[Team Cozens]

He came to the Leafs to win a cup.
Not waiving.

 

[Qward]

Nope. Deal with the cap hit.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Maybe to go back to SJ for a retirement lap. Other than that I think he wants to stay.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Keep in mind leafs will have roughly 25M to sign 11 players (projecting a 1.8M cap increase). They have 12 players on their current roster signed for next year.

Matthews will get 10-11, Marner 7-8, Kapanen 2-3. That right there eats 20.5M. The leafs will need 8 players with around 4.5M. A backup goalie, 4-5 dmen, 2-3 forwards.

Let’s say the leafs promote liljegren. That’s another 896k. Leafs now have a top 4 of Reilly Zaitsev liljegren and dermott.

That leaves 3.6M to sign 7 guys. Even if a team left themselves 0 cap space (meaning cannot recall players without placing someone on ir who’s salary is the same or higher than the call up) that leaves an avg of 515k per player remaining. Considering minimum salary is 650k and could go up, something’s gotta give

 

[PAZ]

Yup, don't see him waiving unless it's back to the Sharks.

 

[FerrisRox]

Maybe to go back to SJ for a retirement lap. Other than that I think he wants to stay.

He came to Toronto in the first place cause San Jose wouldn't give him that third year, seems kind of unlikely they will change their mind and add a 40 year old eating up all that cap space.

 

[CaperJay]

Worst thing is that if they try to pressure him to waive he can retire and leafs are still stuck with the cap hit

 

[AndreRoy]

Yup, don't see him waiving unless it's back to the Sharks.

I could see him waiving to go to another contender, but what contender has $6.25M in cap space laying around? IMO if Toronto really wants to move him they’re going to have to retain a good deal to make him affordable to any team that he would realistically waive to.