Canucks1096
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That series also had 80s level goaltending where Fleury and Bryz couldnt stop a beachball your point? The fact that one good series in round 1 has that big of an effect on his playoff pt totals and your he is near ppg argument is pretty telling about how awful that series was and how much Claude benefitted from it. 7 pts in 13 games when he actually played a team that had average goaltending
Giroux's playoff PPG drops to .84 without 2012
Toews has a .85 PPG in the playoffs
Toews only had 3 good playoffs out of 9 playoffs. 2010 2014 and 2015. 2011 2012 and 2016 and 2017 when the Hawks need it to get rid of players for salary cap purposes like Buff, Ladd, Versteeg, Campbell, Richards, Sharp, Vermette, Oduya. Toews struggle in the playoffs.
Yes it proven that Toews can play at a high level if he has a stacked team but it is also proven that Toews struggle in the playoffs if he doesn't have a stacked team like in 2011 2012 2016 2017.
But the debate is should Toews been drafted 1st overall. But the problem with that is if he got drafted 1st overall with Blues. He won't be able to play in so many playoffs games and his career would of been completely different.
The last 3 years I think Toews proved that he is nothing special without the Stacked team. He is only a 58 point that is a solid defensively. Without Hossa on his wing he is no longer in the running for the Selke as well.
I watched hockey for 26 years. Toews might be the most overrated player the last 26 years. Maybe in nhl history but I don't want to be so extreme because I never watched hockey from day 1 since the nhl started because I wasn't born yet.