TheDevilMadeMe
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toob said:Can i ask you something though? What do you think of Messier's defensive game in his prime, specifically as compared to Sakic 01?
I think prime Sakic was better than prime Messier at technical defense - positioning, back checking, and stick work. But Messier had a unique (for the modern era at least) ability to just physically dominate his opposing center, which of course has a lot of defensive value.
I think late career Yzerman was better defensively than both, by the way.
These guys are not going to say anything negative about an ex-teammate or whatever when the context of the conversation is usually to pump up how great of a player he was.
Agreed. Of course coaches and teammates are going to pump the tires of their superstar in the media. The only "neutral" source there is Bryan Trottier, and I do take that seriously.
I also don't see Scottie Bowman listed. Bowman was a critic of Yzerman's all-round game when he first came to Detroit (although to be fair to Yzerman, Bowman wasn't exactly one to refrain from publicly criticizing his players).
toob said:If making a change in style is reflective of bad D before did Fedorov suck defensively when he had to make the same changes (with more trouble too as he was getting in Bowman's doghouse)?
Fedorov was developed as a center in the Soviet system - he was always strong defensively, and got Selke votes right from the beginning. I think the "doghouse" thing was later in his career when he tended to float in regular season games