GDT: #69 ⋅ MIN @ ANA ⋅ 7:00 PM PDT

[Smirnov2Chistov]

I really don’t see how anyone can find positives in this team. Looks like it may be another year of selling off players.

 

[Terry Yake]

ESPN just ragged on our org for like two minutes straight. deservedly so too.

But I don't agree with Bucci about the youth need to produce at this level when they get here. There's gonna be seasoning needed and it might take a couple of years with a team comprised mostly of youths, where the youths are were all the top talents lay within.

yeah, not every rookie is going to put up mcdavid or matthews numbers in year 1

look at how long it took terry to become a 30 goal scorer

 

[Mr Rogers]

Hate Greg’s response to that last question

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Hate Greg’s response to that last question

Yah just heard that..he's lost the room..it's easy to see

 

[JAHV]

No, we wouldn't want to "bubblewrap" him. Then we might have healthy players! Screw that noise, I want nothing but busted ass 20-somethings.

We should just hold him out until he's 30. Then he'll be super healthy!

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Hate Greg’s response to that last question

Lol.. ‘it’s up to them to figure it out’

Cronin - you were hired as someone who can motivate and (apparently) get the ‘most’ out of your players. Why are you throwing the guys under the bus? Total disconnect from what Verbeek is saying (proud of the ‘hard work’ he’s seen )

We as fans have been sold a bill of goods. I don’t understand how people can vouch for this guy lmao.

 

[MCB]

I went mostly for the blanket and they didn't even give me one. Then I had to watch that dumpster fire. That was a fantastic last live game of the season for me.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

We should just hold him out until he's 30. Then he'll be super healthy!

That's a huge leap to something no one is proposing... i.e. a logical fallacy.

We are not trying to make the playoffs this season. It's a development season. Playing through injury as a barely turned 21-year old in his 2nd season in the NHL is short-sighted. He hasn't looked good since his first injury.

Here's a breakdown of Mac's season so far.

McTavish	2023-24
Game Set	Date	Games	G	A	Pts	pts/G		+/-	Comment
Total	Schedule	57​	17​	23​	40​	0.70​		-21​
1 to 20	Oct 14 - Nov 24	20​	10​	11​	21​	1.05​		-2​
21 to 24	Nov 26 - Dec 2	4​	0​	0​	0​	0.00​		-7​	Played through injury (back)
Injured	Dec 3 - Dec 20								missed 7 games (back)
24 to 43	Dec 21 - Jan 31	19​	3​	7​	10​	0.53​		-8​
Injured	Feb 1 - Feb 12								All-star break, missed 1 game
44 to 52	Feb 13 - Mar 1	9​	4​	5​	9​	1.00​		0​	looked like shit on ice though
Injured	Mar 2 - Mar 7								missed 2 games (boot)
53 to 56	Mar 8 - Mar 14	4​	0​	0​	0​	0.00​		-3​
injured	Mar 15 - Mar18								missed 2 games
57​	Mar 19 -	1​	0​	0​	0​	0.00​		-1​

Mac has had four different times he's been injured this season. We want to prevent Mac from being made out of glass out of our own doing via playing through injury.

It's not Mac' job to play hurt and carry the team. It's the GM's job to acquire talent and talent depth to not put players in a position to play through injuries during the regular season, especially in a development season.

I love the fact that Mac is willing to play through injury, but someone smart in mgmt has to tell Mac, "Whoa. We love your attitude, but there's a long game we want from you. We want to win the war, not meaningless battles."

That same someone smart should also tell our GM, "Maybe we should look at the long term picture here instead of using platitudes of developing the right culture by playing through injuries. You're gambling our future for style points."

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Lol.. ‘it’s up to them to figure it out’

Cronin - you were hired as someone who can motivate and (apparently) get the ‘most’ out of your players. Why are you throwing the guys under the bus? Total disconnect from what Verbeek is saying (proud of the ‘hard work’ he’s seen )

We as fans have been sold a bill of goods. I don’t understand how people can vouch for this guy lmao.

Cronin's been like this for a while now in his post-game interviews and Verbeek has backed him 100% b/c they're cut from the same cloth.

Eakins is looking better the more games are played under Cronin this year.

• Record after 69 games
  • Last season: 23-36-10 (56 pts) (source)
  • This season: 23-43-3 (49 pts)

• Eliminated from Playoffs
  • Last season: game 70
  • This season: game 68

• Offense Shutout on Scoreboard
  • Last season: 5 times in 82 games
  • This season: 9 times in 69 games

• Times Short-Handed (TSH)
  • Last season: 280 times in 82 games (source)
  • This season: 280 times in 69 games

 

[KelVarnsen]

That interview isn’t good. I don’t think Cronin really has a clue of what to do or change right now. For a supposed “development” coach, he looks like a deer in the headlights. No real answers other than they got to figure it out?

The longer this has gone on, the more I understand why this is his first NHL head coaching gig.

 

[anezthes]

Rookie GM, rookie coach, rookie players... That's too much rookie.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

How many times have we remarked this year that guys have come back remarkably quickly from injury? Anecdotally, it seems like...I dunno, quite a few times.

And I think, with maybe one exception, they've looked like shit when they did.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

That interview isn’t good. I don’t think Cronin really has a clue of what to do or change right now. For a supposed “development” coach, he looks like a deer in the headlights. No real answers other than they got to figure it out?

The longer this has gone on, the more I understand why this is his first NHL head coaching gig.

I expected more from him, maybe not so much in terms of record but in terms of leadership/mentorship and development.

It’s also concerning to me that no one has called for player only type meetings or anything…. I woulda expected fowler to be that guy as he was here with Perry getzlaf Kesler etc…. But I get the feeling he’s content with his posistion and losing isn’t that big of a deal to him

 

[Arthuros]

And the shutout counter has taken the lead again.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

And the shutout counter has taken the lead again.

Playing against the house this year is no fun!

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

That interview isn’t good. I don’t think Cronin really has a clue of what to do or change right now. For a supposed “development” coach, he looks like a deer in the headlights. No real answers other than they got to figure it out?

The longer this has gone on, the more I understand why this is his first NHL head coaching gig.

Don’t worry, the GM thinks they are doing just fine lmao

 

[Mr Rogers]

That interview isn’t good. I don’t think Cronin really has a clue of what to do or change right now. For a supposed “development” coach, he looks like a deer in the headlights. No real answers other than they got to figure it out?

The longer this has gone on, the more I understand why this is his first NHL head coaching gig.

It's definitely not a good look for an interview, hopefully he's just kind of saying that out of frustration after the game and i doubt he wants to be having to answer questions after yet another performance like that. Still not a great look and could provide a window into his attitude, probably not a great stance to have as a developmental coach.

 

[Leonardo87]

screw this game, use the roster thread…

https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/2023-24-roster-thread.2924985/