4th round picks : Top-20 ranking since 2000 #2

[Xspyrit]

Top-20 Ranking, 4th round picks (since 2000)

#1 - Johnny Gaudreau (4th round picks : Top-20 ranking since 2000 #1)
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We are only looking at their NHL careers, of course. Who would you pick BPA (Best Player Available) ???

Don't pick based on your team needs, etc. Pick on who is better at hockey and what they have done at the NHL level. But for some guys (like ), what you project them to do over their NHL careers.


Please make your suggestions or let me know if there's a mistake or an omission.


Players left to add :

Ryan Callahan NHL Totals 757 186 200 386
Craig Smith NHL Totals 761 181 200 381
Gustav Nyquist NHL Totals 623 159 220 379
Viktor Arvidsson NHL Totals 432 142 132 274
Marcus Foligno NHL Totals 650 103 133 236
Joonas Donskoi NHL Totals 452 79 123 202
Sami Vatanen NHL Totals 473 47 153 200
Casey Cizikas NHL Totals 632 87 107 194
Andreas Athanasiou NHL Totals 369 99 89 188
Andrew Copp NHL Totals 458 73 104 177
David Savard NHL Totals 653 42 133 175
Tom Gilbert NHL Totals 655 45 178 223
Tyler Kennedy NHL Totals 527 89 126 215
Vladimir Sobotka NHL Totals 548 53 118 171
Jordin Tootoo NHL Totals 723 65 96 161
Josh Anderson NHL Totals 361 94 66 160
Matt Beleskey NHL Totals 477 76 82 158
Kyle Quincey NHL Totals 586 36 122 158
Colton Sceviour NHL Totals 532 66 90 156
Torrey Mitchell NHL Totals 666 67 85 152
Tobias Rieder NHL Totals 478 64 81 145
Erik Gustafsson NHL Totals 293 31 114 145
Danton Heinen NHL Totals 321 55 87 142
Jan Hejda NHL Totals 627 25 110 135
Dale Weise NHL Totals 513 55 70 125
Michel Ouellet NHL Totals 190 52 64 116
Miles Wood NHL Totals 323 65 56 121
Ben Chiarot NHL Totals 463 27 77 104
Nick Paul NHL Totals 218 27 37 64
Michael Bunting NHL Totals 79 30 25 55
Nicolas Roy NHL Totals 134 19 29 48
Victor Mete NHL Totals 230 5 38 43
Adam Ruzicka NHL Totals 22 4 4 8
Jack Rathbone NHL Totals 17 1 2 3

James Reimer NHL Totals 418 2.80 0.913 188-143
Ray Emery NHL Totals 287 2.70 0.906 145-86

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[Xspyrit]

Holtby had a very good 3-4 years peak but people really think nobody in there going to "surpass" him when all is said and done? Guys like Igor Shestyorkin, Jaccob Slavin, Devon Toews, Drake Batherson?

Juuse Saros has a career SV% of 0.921. Holtby career SV% is 0.915

But yeah Saros might never play for a team that was as good as the Caps were.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Slavin just keeps coming back year after year and tilting the ice like crazy. Regardless of partner, regardless of goalie. Guys like Hamilton and Nedeljkovic and Pesce and Mrazek and Andersen and Deangelo keep having career years next to him.

He does defensively what Makar does offensively, while also being a pretty high-end puck mover. If he were a negative image of himself, with reversed results in the offensive and defensive zones, he would have won a Norris or two by now.

Getting him way down in the 4th round changed the trajectory of the Hurricanes franchise. It's hard to oversell how much of a difference he made when they transitioned from a terrible Staal/Skinner/Faulk team to what they are today.

 

[Gurglesons]

Slavin. Probably Holtby or Yandle next.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Gotta go Slavin here but will be Batherson very soon.

 

[bobholly39]

Holtby had a very good 3-4 years peak but people really think nobody in there going to "surpass" him when all is said and done? Guys like Igor Shestyorkin, Jaccob Slavin, Devon Toews, Drake Batherson?

Juuse Saros has a career SV% of 0.921. Holtby career SV% is 0.915

But yeah Saros might never play for a team that was as good as the Caps were.

I think there's a very good chance Shesterkin could surpass Holtby - but in my opinion he's too far away/too much uncertainty for me to vote for him yet. Nothing about him per se either I don't like, but goalies are so volatile. Let's see him have one full season under his belt where he's among league leaders before projecting him above Holtby for career - and then no guarantee he can repeat consistently either.

As for Saros - I like him, and I was actually of the mindset he should have either won the vezina, or come a lot closer last year. But no, I'd be shocked to see him surpass Holtby's prime/career. Holtby is extremely strong for playoffs too don't forget.

 

[Xspyrit]

I think there's a very good chance Shesterkin could surpass Holtby - but in my opinion he's too far away/too much uncertainty for me to vote for him yet. Nothing about him per se either I don't like, but goalies are so volatile. Let's see him have one full season under his belt where he's among league leaders before projecting him above Holtby for career - and then no guarantee he can repeat consistently either.

As for Saros - I like him, and I was actually of the mindset he should have either won the vezina, or come a lot closer last year. But no, I'd be shocked to see him surpass Holtby's prime/career. Holtby is extremely strong for playoffs too don't forget.

When I make polls, I am not asking people to read a statsline. Everybody can do that and I surely can. We are not ranking players here for only what they did. Some of them are already retired but some others are just starting. This is why these polls are asking people to PROJECT these players, exactly like teams do at the draft table or when they make trades, etc.

So if you think there's a "very good chance" that Shesterkin surpasses Holtby, why don't you vote for him then? Do you think he won't or he will? Can you make that decision?

IMO (and many others), there's no uncertainty regarding Shesterkin, he's elite and will be for a while (as long as injuries don't derail anything of course)

I am not sure why you are trying to convince me about Holtby, I am just ONE voice in the polls and the results so far say that most people think that Gaudreau and Slavin will be better when all is said and done. Don't be surprised if Shesterkin is voted #3. Holtby will probably go #4. That's about where I'd have him too, maybe #5. Absolutely have to consider Toews, Batherson and Swayman