GDT: #26 Flyers @ Devils, 7 PM, MSG+2

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ForeverJerseyGirl

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I think Tom just sometimes likes to bait fans. I mean, if he felt like fans were wrong to jump on DeBoer for his post-game comments, why would he advocate fans jumping all over Hynes for his post-game comments? If he thought fans were wrong to be upset about Pete's post-game remarks, shouldn't he be happy that fans are apparently maturing and coming around to his way of thinking? Tom was just picking a fight there. I don't know why people bother responding to him when he's spoiling for a sarcasm war.
 

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I think Tom just sometimes likes to bait fans. I mean, if he felt like fans were wrong to jump on DeBoer for his post-game comments, why would he advocate fans jumping all over Hynes for his post-game comments? If he thought fans were wrong to be upset about Pete's post-game remarks, shouldn't he be happy that fans are apparently maturing and coming around to his way of thinking? Tom was just picking a fight there. I don't know why people bother responding to him when he's spoiling for a sarcasm war.

I think he likes to stir the pot too, not nearly to the level of Chere or anything. But I remember one of the first games of the season where he had what Hynes said in his presser and I'm pretty sure he added something like (which was clearly not the case at all) to contradict what Hynes said.

I don't remember if he did that in his actual blog or highlighted it just in a post on twitter. It was also like he was trying to stick it to the people who thought Hynes was a savior compared to DeBoer.
 

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I think he likes to stir the pot too, not nearly to the level of Chere or anything. But I remember one of the first games of the season where he had what Hynes said in his presser and I'm pretty sure he added something like (which was clearly not the case at all) to contradict what Hynes said.

I don't remember if he did that in his actual blog or highlighted it just in a post on twitter. It was also like he was trying to stick it to the people who thought Hynes was a savior compared to DeBoer.

Well....Hynes IS a savior compared to Deboer. :dunno:

And no amount of sarcasm by TG changes that real FACT.
 

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I've said it before, but I think he HATES having to respond to idiots on twitter, but because Chere does, The Record probably enacted a quota on replies
 

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I think he likes to stir the pot too, not nearly to the level of Chere or anything. But I remember one of the first games of the season where he had what Hynes said in his presser and I'm pretty sure he added something like (which was clearly not the case at all) to contradict what Hynes said.

I don't remember if he did that in his actual blog or highlighted it just in a post on twitter. It was also like he was trying to stick it to the people who thought Hynes was a savior compared to DeBoer.

I don't think he's as bad as Chere either, but I definitely thinks that he likes to wind fans up just so he can mock them. For the most part, he provides good content, but I wish that he could be more professional when interacting with fans. Since I'm not about to fall into his trap, it doesn't bother me too much, but I'm not going to pretend that I don't see the snare he lays.

Well....Hynes IS a savior compared to Deboer. :dunno:

And no amount of sarcasm by TG changes that real FACT.

Agree with this. Hynes seems like a genius compared to DeBoer in his final season here.

I've said it before, but I think he HATES having to respond to idiots on twitter, but because Chere does, The Record probably enacted a quota on replies

The thing is everyone has aspects of their job they don't like. I don't think that justifies rudeness or a lack of professionalism. Tom is a good beat writer overall, but he has his warts like everyone else.
 

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His writing is good, I've highlighted that in his appreciation thread on here.

There's always an abundance of material to read during training camp and Devils season, as well as the draft and July 1st.

He does certainly like to stir the pot sometimes, not nearly as bad as Chere though.
 

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His writing is good, I've highlighted that in his appreciation thread on here.

There's always an abundance of material to read during training camp and Devils season, as well as the draft and July 1st.

He does certainly like to stir the pot sometimes, not nearly as bad as Chere though.

Yeah, his content is good. It's his conflicts with fans that is less good. Overall, I'm pleased with the work he does, but in this particular situation, I definitely think he was stirring the pot.
 

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I think Tom just sometimes likes to bait fans. I mean, if he felt like fans were wrong to jump on DeBoer for his post-game comments, why would he advocate fans jumping all over Hynes for his post-game comments? If he thought fans were wrong to be upset about Pete's post-game remarks, shouldn't he be happy that fans are apparently maturing and coming around to his way of thinking? Tom was just picking a fight there. I don't know why people bother responding to him when he's spoiling for a sarcasm war.

Yeah, He's taking a little jab at some of the less sensible fans. They kinda deserve one every once in a while. Nothing to get all worked up about. I like seeing that he's more in tune with what is really going on. Other's who don't share this view obviously will not.

And I don't think those fans are waking up to anything. According to most analysts, the team was supposed to be in the basement this year. So in most eyes, this has been a good year. Therefore they're not blaming someone for the things going wrong. Last year analysts picked the Devils to make the playoffs because of an offseason acquisition and the team's advanced stats the previous year. (thanks to Deboer) The year didn't go well, so Deboer gets almost all the blame, and all his previous successes with the team are diminished and the context surrounding the bad results thrown to the way side. Some fans need to blame someone for the bad results, and it'll happen again once the expectations for the team change.
 

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Yeah, He's taking a little jab at some of the less sensible fans. They kinda deserve one every once in a while. Nothing to get all worked up about. I like seeing that he's more in tune with what is really going on. Other's who don't share this view obviously will not.

And I don't think those fans are waking up to anything. According to most analysts, the team was supposed to be in the basement this year. So in most eyes, this has been a good year. Therefore they're not blaming someone for the things going wrong. Last year analysts picked the Devils to make the playoffs because of an offseason acquisition and the team's advanced stats the previous year. (thanks to Deboer) The year didn't go well, so Deboer gets almost all the blame, and all his previous successes with the team are diminished and the context surrounding the bad results thrown to the way side. Some fans need to blame someone for the bad results, and it'll happen again once the expectations for the team change.

Saying that I don't think Tom's behavior in baiting fans is very professional doesn't mean I'm worked up over anything. It's just my opinion on his conduct. If he wants to continue to behave in an unprofessional fashion, I don't care, since I'm not the one making a fool of myself on Twitter.

Personally, I didn't think the team was a playoff caliber one this year or last season. Hynes seems to be a better fit with our current roster than DeBoer, though, so I'm happy with the hire. DeBoer wasn't working last season, so after a certain point a change had to be made. Whether or not he was the problem, he wasn't showing that he could be part of the solution. I wish him the best in San Jose, but it was time for the Devils to move on from him. Under Hynes, we're having more success than we did last year, but if Hynes doesn't work out a few seasons from now, another coaching change can be made. Coaches are hired to be fired, and it's really about who the GM, not the fans, blame. Pete was fired by a GM, not fans, and people don't get fired for doing a good job.

All this is really irrelevant to Tom's snide remarks, though. If he has a point he absolutely must make (although I prefer journalism without editorializing, even though it's a dying thing), he should be respectful when he makes it. Being rude to people doesn't make anything he says smarter, and probably makes anyone who disagrees with his point less likely to heed it.
 

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Some fans need to blame someone for the bad results, and it'll happen again once the expectations for the team change.

And for most of us on HF, including yours truly, trade/waive EVERYONE!




Why does some idiot that gets a twitter account feel the need to say whatever asinine/ridiculous thing that comes to his mind. It seems as a society we've grown too tolerant toward it and sometimes it should be shouted down.
 
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