GDT: #26 | Bruins at FLYERS | Sat. Dec. 2, 1:00 pm ET | SN, NBCSP, NESN

[Qyburn]

No, Deadhead & I have tried to keep a middle ground in reminding people there's a lot more to it than just Hakstol.

I've long said Hakstol makes decisions that bewilder me. I just think people use him as a 100% scapegoat because they don't want to admit they bought into many of Hextall's horrible roster decisions & evaluations. You were probably one of the many who mocked me for saying the Flyers' scoring depth was thin & that Weise & Gordon were terrible signings & that Filppula was needless & done.

Your claims of neutrality go right out the window when you choose another scapegoat.

 

[flyershockey]

No, Deadhead & I have tried to keep a middle ground in reminding people there's a lot more to it than just Hakstol.

I've long said Hakstol makes decisions that bewilder me. I just think people use him as a 100% scapegoat because they don't want to admit they bought into many of Hextall's horrible roster decisions & evaluations. You were probably one of the many who mocked me for saying the Flyers' scoring depth was thin & that Weise & Gordon were terrible signings & that Filppula was needless & done.

Do you really think you're the only two posters to criticize Hextall for pro scouting issues? You seem to have a pretty high opinion of yourself.

 

[Magua]

My dream is that they fire Hakstol sometime out west and instead of making him take a cab like Gallant, make him take a f***ing horse drawn carriage. Actually the hayseed would probably like that.

 

[Tripod]

Of this I am aware. He was hired into the front office in summer 2013 though. That's what I was referring to.

Yes but you were say this retool has been going on since 2013 which is not true.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Can't believe he didn't parachute down from the rafters to stop Hakstol.

Same decision as the last horrid effort he was ok and happy with. See if his parachute works after this trainwreck game.

 

[flyers0909]

One shift so far for TK in the 3rd. 4 for Weise. We're down 3-0.

 

[OriginJM]

A beat needs to ask...why was TK benched in the 3rd.

all they'll get is a blank stare and a thoughtless platitude

 

[Random Forest]

Hextall came in the summer of 2014 with an over the hill bubble team in cap hell and a botton 5 prospect pool. We knew it would take at least 5 years to restock the cupboards and get a decent roster. It takes most players 4-5 years to become significant contributors to a team, so starting with no decent prospects meant we likely wouldnt have a good team for 4-5 years. Hextall has done a great job of getting this team to a top 5 prospect pool and is integrating some of the younger players into the lineup now (as slow and painful as it is). He is still on track for 2019 you are just consumed by negativity because of the past 10 games and Hakstol. There is no indication Hakstol will be here another year. Hexy cant just go trading and signing good players thats how Homer got us in this mess in the first place. Perennial contenders are built through the draft and thats what Hexy is doing.

Enough of the false dichotomy. People need to stop suggesting that our only two options are either 1) unending patience for the "five year plan" or 2) a relapse into Holmgren-style impatience for immediate success.

A good manager is able to manage and balance near-term competitiveness with long-term sustainability. Hextall has a prolific ability to build a pipeline of long-term, sustainable talent. It's clearly not settled whether he can achieve success in the present though. Having patience is not synonymous with just waiting forever for things to suddenly fall into place. Even the best pipeline of talent will not have everything magically settle that way.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Pretty sad when the 4th line is giving you your best shift in a 3rd period down by 3 goals

 

[MarAlain MongYeo]

Benching Konecny should be icing on the cake of what we already know. Hakstol is in over his head in trying to "develop his players", he can't even f***ing do that.

 

[bennysflyers16]

As I predicted last week, good chance we are third worst in the NHL and second worst in the East by this weeks end.

And loser GM is happy with coach and team

 

[Magua]

Have we mentioned Patrick has 1 minute too?

Curious to see if PP2 comes out who goes out there.

 

[Qyburn]

Great keep by Ghost. How does he anticipate those?

 

[AndHeMissedTheNet]

Paging Ron Hextall:

Darryl Sutter is still available. You know what to do.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Shit a shortie there would of been fitting.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Didn’t even put the 2nd unit out lol

 

[kudymen]

I miss the record streak kind of Ghost

 

[Beef Invictus]

One shift so far for TK in the 3rd. 4 for Weise. We're down 3-0.

Lol Weisebiscuit is an offensive Dynamo

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Your claims of neutrality go right out the window when you choose another scapegoat.

So your point is I'm making Hextall the 100% scapegoat?

My whole point is there's multiple layers of blame & acting like it's *all* on Hakstol is wrong.

 

[OriginJM]

down 3 goals in a must win game - put lehtera on the PP

you cant make this stuff up

 

[Striiker]

Same decision as the last horrid effort he was ok and happy with. See if his parachute works after this trainwreck game.

Benching a player for a period isn't the type of thing a GM would get involved with...

It's not like Konecny has been playing 6 minutes per game and then scratched for 10 in a row.

Hakstol is definitely an idiot, but you have unrealistic expectations for what would cause a GM to intervene.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Weise is so awful lol

 

[MarAlain MongYeo]

What's hilarious is that Hak KNOWS he is a terribly inept coach. Otherwise he wouldn't have had to resort to stacking the top line. He knows his system won't be able to create anything offensively otherwise, and set up the G-Coots-Jake to mask that fact.

 

[Flyers845]

Oh thank god Raffl is getting ice time down 3-0

 

[Lotusflower]

No Fire Hakstol chants. I'm disappointed