OT: 2024 Washington Commanders off-season thread: change we can believe in!

[RandyHolt]

Where can one bet that we will not take the right QB?

Asking for a jaded long time fan.

IF JJ goes to the Giants and is the best of the bunch my head will explode. I want them tethered to the Daniel Jones Overpaid Experience for several more years.

 

[Roric]

Challenge:

Predict the top 5 picks (with trades) for bragging rights.

1. Bears - Caleb
2. Commanders - McCarthy
3. Patriots - Maye
4. Cardinals - MHJ
5. Vikings trade with Chargers - Daniels

 

[ynotcaps]

CHI -- CW
WAS -- JD
MIN (trade-up) -- DM
ARI -- MHJ
LAC -- Odunze

 

[John Price]

chi Williams
was Daniels
ne maye
ari mhj
Minnesota trades up for jj

 

[kicksavedave]

Chi Williams
Was Daniels
NE Maye
AZ MH2
LAC Nabers
(no trades in the top 5, everybody wants too much)

JJ goes in the 10-14 range to one of the QB needy teams.

 

[EroCaps]

if Daniels actually wanted to be a Washington lifer and not some bandwagon merc who’ll be tweeting about other cities, then take him.

I still think it’s a mistake but if he’s not committed to DC it’s a total hard pass.

 

[Cush]

Kiper's final 2024 NFL draft rankings: Top 150 prospects and best at every position

Mel Kiper Jr. is back with new rankings ahead of the 2024 NFL draft. His Big Board goes deep at every position.

www.espn.com

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Kiper's final 2024 NFL draft rankings: Top 150 prospects and best at every position

Mel Kiper Jr. is back with new rankings ahead of the 2024 NFL draft. His Big Board goes deep at every position.

www.espn.com

I dont get how I have espn+ for the hockey package but need another espn+ for 10.99 a month to read the content.

Edit: NVM I was logged out

JD #2 for those who can't log in

 

[Cush]

NFL Draft confidential: 'Marvin Harrison is not No. 1'

People inside the NFL get candid about their surprising top wide receiver, no top-10 defensive players and, of course, Caleb Williams.

theathletic.com

 

[Jags]

 

[kicksavedave]

I dont get how I have espn+ for the hockey package but need another espn+ for 10.99 a month to read the content.

Edit: NVM I was logged out

JD #2 for those who can't log in

His reviews are in many cases really old, like preseason stuff. Kiper has gotten lazy, he's just mailing it in now.

 

[Ridley Simon]

His reviews are in many cases really old, like preseason stuff. Kiper has gotten lazy, he's just mailing it in now.

Oh yeah? Pretty tough internet talk.

Why don’t you say that to the man’s hair?? See how tough you are then, eh?

Yeah? I didn’t think so…..

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

I made a draft parlay yesterday afternoon and took JD #2, MHJ 1st WR, Ault 1st OL, JJ top 10, Penix 1st round. I got it at +260. The odds have dropped down to +100

 

[kicksavedave]

Oh yeah? Pretty tough internet talk.

Why don’t you say that to the man’s hair?? See how tough you are then, eh?

Yeah? I didn’t think so…..

His hair does have it's own consciousness.

 

[ynotcaps]

I made a draft parlay yesterday afternoon and took JD #2, MHJ 1st WR, Ault 1st OL, JJ top 10, Penix 1st round. I got it at +260. The odds have dropped down to +100

That's a nice parlay. I'm buying the Raiders as a spot for Penix at 13 -- the thing I'd be a little nervous about is MHJ. Sounds like weird signals around Nabers becoming the consensus preferred WR, but haven't heard anything specific about ARI's preference -- which is probably all that matters.

 

[ynotcaps]

2024 NFL Draft: Raiders attempted to trade up to No. 2 overall with Commanders, per report

Vegas may be aggressive in acquiring its new QB

www.cbssports.com

LV reportedly tried to move to #2, we shot them down.

 

[ynotcaps]

Damn you for making me watch a 13 minute Old Spice commercial.

 

[kicksavedave]

Todd McShay: Haven't Spoken to NFL Insider Who Ranks Drake Maye Above Jayden Daniels

Draft analyst Todd McShay says all the NFL insiders he's spoken with believe the Washington Commanders should draft LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels with the…

syndication.bleacherreport.com

Not a single one?

 

[John Price]

The FO is very very quiet so all this is speculation and hearsay. The pundits are saying JD, but it's possible the team disagrees in private and picks someone completely different.

 

[kicksavedave]

The FO is very very quiet so all this is speculation and hearsay. The pundits are saying JD, but it's possible the team disagrees in private and picks someone completely different.

Sure, it's possible they go against what apparently is a universal consensus among NFL insiders, but it would be shocking. As long as they get it right in the end, I don't care if they go off consensus.

 

[RandyHolt]

What's it say when Maye was consensus #2 at the end of the season and well into February?

That Daniels has a better PR team?? That Maye failed to impress in interviews?? Some dirt was dug up!

That the experts making the rankings.... actually suck and guess like we do?

 

[Jags]

Sure, it's possible they go against what apparently is a universal consensus among NFL insiders, but it would be shocking. As long as they get it right in the end, I don't care if they go off consensus.

Yeah, I'm with you that it definitely feels like JD, but I don't know how shocking it'd be if it went another way. EVERYONE was a million percent sure about Mac Jones, no one saw the Trey Lance trade coming. So it's happened before, and not very long ago.

It's very dramatic. The saving grace is that it'll be over for us early. The sneaky benefit of an early pick, lol.

 

[usiel]

What's it say when Maye was consensus #2 at the end of the season and well into February?

That Daniels has a better PR team?? That Maye failed to impress in interviews?? Some dirt was dug up!

That the experts making the rankings.... actually suck and guess like we do?

Gotta remember until the regular NFL seasons is over the coaches are not involved so once they are out is when they become part of the overall process. Its not just scouts and the GM that are the only inputs into making a pick. So thinking that things should be locked in evaluation wise that early doesn't make all that sense to me at least.

 

[usiel]

Remember all there is a new poll in this thread on final QB pick.

 

[ynotcaps]

What's it say when Maye was consensus #2 at the end of the season and well into February?

That Daniels has a better PR team?? That Maye failed to impress in interviews?? Some dirt was dug up!

That the experts making the rankings.... actually suck and guess like we do?

It says that during the season, they're watching all these guys week-to-week. After the season ends, they're able to go deep in the entirety of their respective seasons. McShay says as much in the vid.

No way -- absolutely no way -- that coaches, scouts, GMs are being spun by PR teams.

And I don't believe there's any likelihood that there's some dark Maye secret that the NFL community knows about but draft-obsessed football media doesn't. It's just the tape.