GDT: 2024 NHL Sharks Lottery Draft (update: We won! Sharks will pick 1st for the first time ever!)

[knu]

1 more hour. Time to start drinking.

 

[Barrie22]

1 more hour. Time to start drinking.

Only 1 hour? That's not enough time to do enough. Should of been another 8 hours earlier

 

[knu]

Shouldn't the balls be rolling right now actually? Its even more stressful knowing Sheng is watching, knowing, and were in the dark. Leak an emoji Sheng! Send it by pigeon.

 

[TheBeard]

Sheng better be doing some strong arming at the moment.

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

Only 1 hour? That's not enough time to do enough. Should of been another 8 hours earlier

 

[TheBeard]

Shouldn't the balls be rolling right now actually? Its even more stressful knowing Sheng is watching, knowing, and were in the dark. Leak an emoji Sheng! Send it by pigeon.

I believe in one minute

 

[one2gamble]

so its done, we are either really happy, angry or meh. We just dont know it yet.

 

[themelkman]

Actual lottery running now… fingers crossed.

I actually don’t care much if we don’t get 1. 2 and 3 are interchangeable to me

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

If we don’t get first, ok, just take Demidov or Levshunov at 2 or 3 and continue to build.

 

[Barrie22]

If we don’t get first, ok, just take Demidov or Levshunov at 2 or 3 and continue to build.

Kind of in the same boat, getting Celebrini is obviously nice and needed. But having the chance at McKenna and Hagens would be nice also.

 

[The Nemesis]

Are y’all seriously gonna watch his live? I’d have a cardiac event. I’m gonna lock my phone up and go for a half hour walk. I’ll find out when I find out.

You want to be in public when you find out?

"A 5-car pileup occurred this evening when a random pedestrian was seen screaming profanity and hurling their phone into traffic, striking a car's windshield and setting off what one witness called 'a chain of events that would put Rube Goldberg to shame'. We'll have more at 11."

so its done, we are either really happy, angry or meh. We just dont know it yet.

Schroedinger's fandom.

 

[Hodge]

Kind of in the same boat, getting Celebrini is obviously nice and needed. But having the chance at McKenna and Hagens would be nice also.

Celebrini is the best non-Bedard prospect since at least Dahlin, arguably since Matthews. There's absolutely no guarantee we'll be saying the same thing about those other guys in their draft years. Bird in the hand vs. two in the bush, etc.

 

[cheechoo]

Oh god the anxiety has started to settle in

 

[Pavelski2112]

 

[Juxtaposer]

You want to be in public when you find out?

"A 5-car pileup occurred this evening when a random pedestrian was seen screaming profanity and hurling their phone into traffic, striking a car's windshield and setting off what one witness called 'a chain of events that would put Rube Goldberg to shame'. We'll have more at 11."



Schroedinger's fandom.

No no no no, I’ll find out when I get back home and load up twitter. I just can’t take the tension of refreshing various sites over and over again. Or watching it live.

I nearly had a heart attack when I watched the Owen Power lottery live. And the stakes were nowhere near as high then.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Let's hope Sheng is doing a little celebration right now inside the room. He is probably going through a lot of ideas to write about as we speak.

 

[fasterthanlight]

But it doesn't disincentivize it, that's the whole thing. The Sharks literally had one of the worst seasons in NHL history because of the potential to draft a guy like Celebrini. Drafting high, and especially getting the 1st pick, is worth any chance that they may not get it, no matter the odds.

Right, but, if the lottery was even flatter, e.g., all of the bottom ten teams have exactly the same odds, then there would be no management incentive to tank within those spots. The flatter the lottery the less incentive there is to tank.

Not saying that you've said this at all, nor am I assuming your take --- but, I have seen an argument several times on HFBoards that removing the lottery would remove the incentive to tank, when the opposite is true.

 

[hohosaregood]

i have a meeting in 5 minutes. so i'm gonna get to come out of that meeting and get that emotional dam burst

 

[fasterthanlight]

I hope my company doesn't ask me any questions in my next hour long meeting. Remote work rocks if you have draft anxiety.

 

[sharski]

I can't believe people want to find out later via notifications

Watching this lottery result get revealed live is the highlight of my sad pathetic little life

 

[Pavelski2112]

Right, but, if the lottery was even flatter, e.g., all of the bottom ten teams have exactly the same odds, then there would be no management incentive to tank within those spots. The flatter the lottery the less incentive there is to tank.

Not saying that you've said this at all, nor am I assuming your take --- but, I have seen an argument several times on HFBoards that removing the lottery would remove the incentive to tank, when the opposite is true.

It's not that removing the lottery would remove the incentive to tank, but that convoluted ways to try to prevent tanking don't actually solve anything because a cap league requires tanking for a team to become successful.

 

[TheBeard]

I can't believe people want to find out later via notifications

Watching this lottery result get revealed live is the highlight of my sad pathetic little life

I can't do it. Not the way they drag it out.

 

[fasterthanlight]

It's not that removing the lottery would remove the incentive to tank, but that convoluted ways to try to prevent tanking don't actually solve anything because a cap league requires tanking for a team to become successful.

I agree! I think the choice of "completely flat lottery" versus "deterministic reverse standings" is a spectrum, and any choice along that spectrum (including our current choice) has different trade-offs.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I just want to see Celebrini's reaction to getting to play in Utah.

 

[The Nemesis]

Right, but, if the lottery was even flatter, e.g., all of the bottom ten teams have exactly the same odds, then there would be no management incentive to tank within those spots. The flatter the lottery the less incentive there is to tank.

Not saying that you've said this at all, nor am I assuming your take --- but, I have seen an argument several times on HFBoards that removing the lottery would remove the incentive to tank, when the opposite is true.

Teams would still tank, it would just widen the field of teams that would try.

Also the more you flatten the lottery odds the more you defeat the purpose of intending worse teams to get higher picks. Instead of rebuilds lasting 3 or 4 years as teams sit at the bottom enough to accumulate a good core of high picks, teams would be stuck on a treadmill for longer hoping and wishing that maybe eventually they fluke into winning the lottery and getting the kind of player that can change their franchise or hoping that maybe the draft gods smile on them and one of the kids they pick at 7th-10th every year ends up happening to be one of the steals of the draft.