HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[G0bias]

Yeah Jackets can likely plug Lindstrom wherever they need him most C/W.

Whether he stays at C or not doesn't matter in our case, he'd fill a need either way.

 

[RationalExpectations]

The only D I’d take at 5OA is Buium. I think he’ll end up as no worse than the second best player in this draft.

I would add Dickinson to Buium. I think Dickinson is being forgotten in the board discussions because many people are focused on a forward and then on points somehow forgetting Dickinson is a PPG Dman. He is also among the youngest players of the draft.

Picking a potential top 6 winger rather than a potential top 2 Dman looks like a mistake to me.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Yeah Jackets can just plug Lindstrom wherever they need him most C/W, which is a big feather in Lindstrom's cap.

If Demidov Levshunov Lindstrom go 2-4, then Buium Dickinson Catton are my preferred choices.

 

[ReHabs]

Surprised there is no mass smear campaign around Demidov, his family, and his country's pending military activities. What happened to the dual degree Hockey-Foreign Policy experts of whom we had plenty?

 

[WeThreeKings]

You can say you can never have too many centers but the same thing is true of defenseman. There's two elements at play if you're trying to say Lindstrom is the choice for CBJ.

His medicals
And there's only 30 games of junior center experience for Lindstrom and varying degrees of belief that he projects there at the NHL level

There's no guessing that the defenseman will be defenseman. Dickinson and Silayev both provide profiles that would interest the jackets and provide long term stability to either Jiricek or Mateychuk who are offensively inclined.

 

[Runner77]

Musta been a slow clickbait ratio day.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1792426551382077564

 

[MrNasty]

Musta been a slow clickbait ratio day.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1792426551382077564

What are the dates on each tweet though? To me it seems like an agenda by not including them.

 

[MrNasty]

If both Lindstrom and Demidov are gone at 5 then I would go for one of the defensemen. Just too much talent to ignore. (Levshunov, Silayev, Dickinson, Buim)
Figure out who is expendable later.

 

[morhilane]

If both Lindstrom and Demidov are gone at 5 then I would go for one of the defensemen. Just too much talent to ignore. (Levshunov, Silayev, Dickinson, Buim)
Figure out who is expendable later.

If both Demidov/Lindstrom are gone, one of Levshunov/Silayev is still available which means a team will pay a premium to trade up above Arizona to get one and the Habs can still get one of Iginla/Sennecke in the 7-10 range.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Surprised there is no mass smear campaign around Demidov, his family, and his country's pending military activities. What happened to the dual degree Hockey-Foreign Policy experts of whom we had plenty?

Maybe because there were never any reports of Demidov having attitude concerns or being a bad teammate. These reports on Michkov were coming from sources outside Montreal media and fan base. I mean these concerns have been out there on players like Merkley, Connelly, Ribeiro, Downie, Kadri as well pre-draft and nobody in here got bent out of shape or accused anyone of character assassination if they discussed it in here.

From a hockey perspective, Demidov is viewed by many as a stronger skater and is more multi-dimensional than Michkov. One could argue that his game will translate better to the NHL. One could also argue that Michkov's starts in a stronger league are more indicative of success. We shall see in a few years.

 

[ReHabs]

Maybe because there were never any reports of Demidov having attitude concerns or being a bad teammate. These reports on Michkov were coming from sources outside Montreal media and fan base. I mean these concerns have been out there on players like Merkley, Connelly, Ribeiro, Downie, Kadri as well pre-draft and nobody in here got bent out of shape or accused anyone of character assassination if they discussed it in here.

From a hockey perspective, Demidov is viewed by many as a stronger skater and is more multi-dimensional than Michkov. One could argue that his game will translate better to the NHL. One could also argue that Michkov's starts in a stronger league are more indicative of success. We shall see in a few years.

Who said anything about attitude? I'm referring to the myriad Foreign Policy specialists.

 

[Simarino]

Was thinking he meant current Ekholm

I’d see Ekholm as a great 2nd pairing D or complimentary D on first pair, important player but someone I think we can trade for like Edmonton did when you want to compete. At 5OA maybe you don’t go for the home run but squaring up to bunt shouldn’t be a strategy.

Ekholm was traded when he was 32, dman like him rarely get traded when they're at the peak of their career, on the other side look at all the quality wingers that will hit the free agent market this summer

 

[goforit]

Who said anything about attitude? I'm referring to the myriad Foreign Policy specialists.

You might need to provide examples because from what I remember, those comments were pretty sporadic. Sure you'll find some here and there, but that's true for about everything.

I think there's more about it from you than anything. Let's keep the discussion on topic : hockey.

 

[Egresch]

I am not a native English speaker, but I understand how some of English surnames were constructed- Taylor, Smith, Stone, Fox, Nurse. However, I am little concerned about Sam Dickinson.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I just continually find it hard to see both Lindstrom and Demidov going in the top 4.

NHL scouts and GMs aren't going to resist the cat nip of big rangy defenseman like Levshunov, Dickinson and Silayev. Don't underestimate what Dickinson can do for his stock if he goes into the Memorial cup, knocks some bodies, shuts some players downs and blasts some goals into the net.

You would be able to see John Davidson and Pat Verbeek frothing at the mouth.

 

[calder candidate]

I also want to address that this prevailing theme that the Habs are going to ignore a surefire top pairing defenseman in the draft because they want a forward.

You don't think Hughes isn't in those scouting meetings and hearing his scouts talk? They either know the guys they project as that are gone before they pick; or they don't have that projection on any defenseman in the draft.

The idea that they would pick a clearly inferior player to what they project in house just to take a lesser forward is just broken logic. Hughes' comments would be made with what he's heard from his people in the room over the entirety of the year.

KH comment also serve as a opening for someone looking to move up to get one of those D

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I just continually find it hard to see both Lindstrom and Demidov going in the top 4.

NHL scouts and GMs aren't going to resist the cat nip of big rangy defenseman like Levshunov, Dickinson and Silayev. Don't underestimate what Dickinson can do for his stock if he goes into the Memorial cup, knocks some bodies, shuts some players downs and blasts some goals into the net.

You would be able to see John Davidson and Pat Verbeek frothing at the mouth.

Praying Demidov falls to us and they don’t fumble the bag a 2nd time.

 

[Guy Larose]

Praying Demidov falls to us and they don’t fumble the bag a 2nd time.

They didn't fumble the first time...

 

[FrankMTL]

I tend to agree that with Dickinson having a fantastic OHL playoffs, and the fact he can continue to impress with a good Memorial Cup, he will definitely be in the conversation for all teams picking after San Jose. These are cornerstone type defensemen that you can build you whole defense around.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Dickinson, Silayev and Levshunov go between 1-4.

 

[Benstheman]

If Demidov Levshunov Lindstrom go 2-4, then Buium Dickinson Catton are my preferred choices.

For me it’s Dickinson without a doubt. And yeah I would trade Matheson afterwards.

 

[Benstheman]

If both Demidov/Lindstrom are gone, one of Levshunov/Silayev is still available which means a team will pay a premium to trade up above Arizona to get one and the Habs can still get one of Iginla/Sennecke in the 7-10 range.

That’s how I see it. 5OA + 26/27OA for 12OA+ Farabee or 10OA + Mercer would be interesting trades to make.

At 10OA, maybe Iginla is still there. At 12OA, you take Sennecke and call it a day.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I just continually find it hard to see both Lindstrom and Demidov going in the top 4.

NHL scouts and GMs aren't going to resist the cat nip of big rangy defenseman like Levshunov, Dickinson and Silayev. Don't underestimate what Dickinson can do for his stock if he goes into the Memorial cup, knocks some bodies, shuts some players downs and blasts some goals into the net.

You would be able to see John Davidson and Pat Verbeek frothing at the mouth.

Dickinson is absolutely going top 4, I'd almost guarantee it at this point. As I said a few days ago, there's definitely a scenario where all three of the top dmen go between 2 and 4 and we've got the choice of any forward not named Celebrini.

 

[GREMLIN]

That’s how I see it. 5OA + 26/27OA for 12OA+ Farabee or 10OA + Mercer would be interesting trades to make.

At 10OA, maybe Iginla is still there. At 12OA, you take Sennecke and call it a day.

Giving up that package for Farabee is insane.

 

[Benstheman]

I just continually find it hard to see both Lindstrom and Demidov going in the top 4.

NHL scouts and GMs aren't going to resist the cat nip of big rangy defenseman like Levshunov, Dickinson and Silayev. Don't underestimate what Dickinson can do for his stock if he goes into the Memorial cup, knocks some bodies, shuts some players downs and blasts some goals into the net.

You would be able to see John Davidson and Pat Verbeek frothing at the mouth.

I agree won’t happen

 

[Benstheman]

Giving up that package for Farabee is insane.

Yeah of course it depends how you see Farabee. Maybe 5OA do it alone. Maybe you change the 26/27OA for a 2nd rounder.

In revenge, for Mercer + 10OA, Habs would probably need to add a bit.