HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 176 50.4%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 11 3.2%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 77 22.1%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 11 3.2%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 55 15.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 5.4%

  • Total voters
    349

Garbageyuk

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Or y'know, he's more similar to Byfield and Kane than he is to Benn. Seem to be ignoring the comparisons to Carter and Anderson as well.

He's fast, shoot first, plays north-south, and plays a power game.

So is Evander Kane. Byfield is pass-first but the rest are true (Aside from the power game, but he does have the same size profile).

Jamie Benn plays a power game but he excels in the cycle, isn't fast, and is pretty even between shooting/passing first.

But nah, I'm sure everyone making those comparisons are just racist.
He doesn’t play North-South. How much have you watched him? He often likes to drive to the net in the offensive zone, but aside from that, he’s not what I’d call a North-South player.

A good way to describe his style is to picture Slafkovsky as a center. Seriously. They are quite similar. He’s got shades of Jagr stylistically as well, just like Slaf does. To me, he looks similar to Todd Bertuzzi in the way that he drives to the net too.

And before anyone gets bent out of shape about the Jagr and Bertuzzi comparisons, I just mean stylistically, not that I expect him to be as good as them.

Back to the Slafkovsky comparison, since everyone here is familiar with him and it will give a good reference point.

Like Slaf, he’s big, about 6’4, 220 lbs. I think his shot is better than Slafkovsky’s. He’s also faster and more agile, and a more powerful skater. He’s more physical than Slaf and more aggressive defensively man to man. Board battles and hands are about the same.

His puck skills and puck protection are his standout attribute, imo. Due to this, he has excels at zone entries and weaving through traffic and navigating the dirty areas effectively. His puck protection skills,
along with his frame are what allows him to drive to the net so effectively. He’s really good at using his body and long reach to shield and protect the puck while bulling to the net. Really strong on his skates too. Really high compete like Slaf. Works hard.

I think Slaf is a better playmaker, passer, and his decision making/tendencies in the offensive zone are better and more varied than Lindstrom.

Lindstrom works hard defensively and his positioning and compete there is good, in addition to the aggressiveness I already mentioned. He also excels at faceoffs, winning over a 60% rate this season.

So the knocks on him are his overall offensive IQ might be somewhat questionable, relative to his other attributes, and playmaking isn’t his strong suit, although he did show flashes where it looks like he could develop into a much better playmaker than we’ve seen. I think he has more potential there than people realize. I wouldn’t even consider his offensive IQ a weakness, more like average as of now. A lot of it could be to usage/coaching too, as he definitely had a clearly defined role on the team when he was playing. How much that has to do with it, idk.

Needless to say, he’s a really good prospect.
 

Deebs

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The problem is neither will be as impactful as Matheson. The reason why we shouldn’t hesitate to take a defenceman at 5OA if we believe he has that upside.
Offensively, probably not, but both will be and IMO Guhle already is better defensively. Impact must be measured at both ends of the ice.
 

Whitesnake

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I understand projection. I do. Though projection still is analyzed with real stats and facts, I do understand that you can't judge solely by what you see now. If so, every top scorer of the league would be drafted 1, 2, 3.....

Still....I do not know you can safely say that Sennecke is your pick after you witness what Parekh, Buium and even Dickinson has done this year. Or even the gap in stats from Catton's last year to this year.

Since the draft is a crapshoot...I will not understand crapshooting the crapshoot. I think you are making a tough exercice even tougher.
 

Shutdown

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The problem is neither will be as impactful as Matheson. The reason why we shouldn’t hesitate to take a defenceman at 5OA if we believe he has that upside.
Matheson wasn't as impactful as Matheson until he turned 28 - and even then, he's impactful on both ends of the ice
 

ChesterNimitz

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Guhle is looking good at the Worlds...Maybe if coach gave him some more of the juicy minutes and cut down on Mathesons 43 min/night Guhle could put up more points.
If the coach had cut down Matheson’s minutes we would be drafting higher than 5 OA.
 

Seb

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Unless something significant happens during the combine, I think I'm ready with my own list :

  • Celebrini
  • Demidov
  • Lindstrom
  • Iginla
  • Catton
  • Dickinson
  • Sennecke
  • Levshunov
Would be extremely happy with the top 4 and happy with the next 4. I'd be sad with the ones I didn't list.
 

Jabba11

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Not gonna lie, I love this year's draft lead up. Everybody is all over the place, no consensus, love it. This is what makes it all fun and interesting. Never seen the board being so spread out with their preferences.

With all being said, I hope we land Zeev Buium hahahahaha
 

Garbageyuk

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I understand projection. I do. Though projection still is analyzed with real stats and facts, I do understand that you can't judge solely by what you see now. If so, every top scorer of the league would be drafted 1, 2, 3.....

Still....I do not know you can safely say that Sennecke is your pick after you witness what Parekh, Buium and even Dickinson has done this year. Or even the gap in stats from Catton's last year to this year.

Since the draft is a crapshoot...I will not understand crapshooting the crapshoot. I think you are making a tough exercice even tougher.
Best post I’ve seen in a while.
 

KevSkillz4

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Unless something significant happens during the combine, I think I'm ready with my own list :

  • Celebrini
  • Demidov
  • Lindstrom
  • Iginla
  • Catton
  • Dickinson
  • Sennecke
  • Levshunov
Would be extremely happy with the top 4 and happy with the next 4. I'd be sad with the ones I didn't list.

Yes. I really like all players on this list. I would be very very happy with one of them. But I believe that it's going to be Demidov, Lindstrom or Iginla. That's that would be amazing to pick one of them!
 
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GlassesJacketShirt

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I understand projection. I do. Though projection still is analyzed with real stats and facts, I do understand that you can't judge solely by what you see now. If so, every top scorer of the league would be drafted 1, 2, 3.....

Still....I do not know you can safely say that Sennecke is your pick after you witness what Parekh, Buium and even Dickinson has done this year. Or even the gap in stats from Catton's last year to this year.

Since the draft is a crapshoot...I will not understand crapshooting the crapshoot. I think you are making a tough exercice even tougher.

The moment a guy over 6'2'' shows off a dangle, people get all

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Toene

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Nov 17, 2014
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I understand projection. I do. Though projection still is analyzed with real stats and facts, I do understand that you can't judge solely by what you see now. If so, every top scorer of the league would be drafted 1, 2, 3.....

Still....I do not know you can safely say that Sennecke is your pick after you witness what Parekh, Buium and even Dickinson has done this year. Or even the gap in stats from Catton's last year to this year.

Since the draft is a crapshoot...I will not understand crapshooting the crapshoot. I think you are making a tough exercice even tougher.
Can you be more vague motherf***er? Otherwise, great f***ing post.
 

Gabouch04

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since there’s been a lot of talk lately about Cayden Lindstrom, I want to go with my take about him. I see is floor being super high because of his tools (speed, size, grit). If a player like Josh Anderson played anywhere from the 1st to 3rd lime,you know he will at least play a very useful role on the second line. Lindstrom have a much higher hockey IQ.

The way I see it I’m term of impact :
Floor : Lawson Crouse
What he’ll likely become : Chris Kreider
Ceiling : Prime Jamie Benn
 

WeThreeKings

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I understand projection. I do. Though projection still is analyzed with real stats and facts, I do understand that you can't judge solely by what you see now. If so, every top scorer of the league would be drafted 1, 2, 3.....

Still....I do not know you can safely say that Sennecke is your pick after you witness what Parekh, Buium and even Dickinson has done this year. Or even the gap in stats from Catton's last year to this year.

Since the draft is a crapshoot...I will not understand crapshooting the crapshoot. I think you are making a tough exercice even tougher.

At the same time, you gotta let the scouts do the scouting thing.

Every year we go nuts on a guy with great counting stats and wonder why they don't go higher, or don't get drafted at all, and more often than not, we were wrong but we hang on to the time or two over the years we are right that proves our natural bias.

If the scouts have been following these kids for years and project them as the best player available at the spot, haven't they earned that call?

We haven't even made that pick yet, for all we know their interest in Sennecke is solely in a trade down scenario. I remember when it was a sure fire thing we would pick Liam Coughlin and we didn't even take him with our 7th rounder.
 
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