HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[26Mats]

Wheeler just did a mock draft based on what he's hearing so far.

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov (between Demidov and Levshunov)
3. Levshunov
4. Silayev (went Lindstrom in the mock but after talking to scouts, etc. he's hearing Silayev)
5. Lindstrom

It feels like Lindstrom, Iginla, or Senecke.

Any worries Lindsteom's production is due to pkaying with Gavin McKenna? I don't watch them, so I don't even know if they play on the same line.

 

[Hannibal]

Wheeler just did a mock draft based on what he's hearing so far.

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov (between Demidov and Levshunov)
3. Levshunov
4. Silayev (went Lindstrom in the mock but after talking to scouts, etc. he's hearing Silayev)
5. Lindstrom

Yes please.

 

[Leto]

Wheeler just did a mock draft based on what he's hearing so far.

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov (between Demidov and Levshunov)
3. Levshunov
4. Silayev (went Lindstrom in the mock but after talking to scouts, etc. he's hearing Silayev)
5. Lindstrom

So Silayev might be right, CLB and Utah are the teams that like him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Jets pick will be 24-27 range. What does this get us in terms of moving up? Is 14-18 range reachable? If so, who would be your target?

I would say it's basically two late 1st's and two 2nd's type value.

Jets 1st
Mesar
Avs 2nd
One of Harris or Ylonen

 

[Habs Halifax]

It feels like Lindstrom, Iginla, or Senecke.

Any worries Lindsteom's production is due to pkaying with Gavin McKenna? I don't watch them, so I don't even know if they play on the same line.

I'm personally not that high on Lindstrom but if the Habs take him, I'll trust them on it.

I have not watched too much of Lindstrom either. He's a difficult one to nail down with his potential.

 

[Leto]

Jets pick will be 24-27 range. What does this get us in terms of moving up? Is 14-18 range reachable? If so, who would be your target?

I would say it's basically two late 1st's and two 2nd's type value.

Jets 1st
Mesar
Avs 2nd
One of Harris or Ylonen

The last time a team moved up in the ~ 10-15 range is Arizona in 2022. So yes, one late 1st and two 2nd rounders.

 

[No More Subban]

We said the same thing the KK year

No way we adding a winger like Tkachuk or a Dman like Hughes or Dobson, let's get out franchise center

Brady was my choice that year. I was shocked when we picked KK. I didn't know who he was.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The last time a team moved up in the ~ 10-15 range is Arizona in 2022. So yes, one late 1st and two 2nd rounders.
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Difficult to know. I went high with my attempt. I'd take Iggy with our pick and then target a center/power winger from the 10-15 range or whatever we can move to.

 

[Jabba11]

So, let’s be honest, can somebody explain to me the Silayev hyp?

I understand he’s big, mobile and played in the KHL at 17 years old. It’s enticing a prospect of his potential, but how can we justify him in the top 3. He’s a project and I think that’s so risky.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Brady was my choice that year. I was shocked when we picked KK. I didn't know who he was.

On these boards back when, I will say 70-90% of the fans hated the B Tkachuk pick. Seen a lot of devalue comments. I personally wanted to take him but got influenced. Never happening again.

* Horrible skater
* International tournaments are flukes.
* Only looks good because of size (McCarron fever lol).
* Not even in the top 10.

So, let’s be honest, can somebody explain to me the Silayev hyp?

I understand he’s big, mobile and played in the KHL at 17 years old. It’s enticing a prospect of his potential, but how can we justify him in the top 3. He’s a project and I think that’s so risky.

I think there is a lot of pumping/deflating going on for several guys. I guess that is the usual year/year.

It's difficult to nail down from 2-10. Very difficult in this draft.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It feels like Lindstrom, Iginla, or Senecke.

Any worries Lindsteom's production is due to pkaying with Gavin McKenna? I don't watch them, so I don't even know if they play on the same line.

Only on the PP. McKenna didn't really go gangbusters this year until Lindstrom got hurt.

Lindstrom and Basha were at the hip, though.

So, let’s be honest, can somebody explain to me the Silayev hyp?

I understand he’s big, mobile and played in the KHL at 17 years old. It’s enticing a prospect of his potential, but how can we justify him in the top 3. He’s a project and I think that’s so risky.

I don't like him that much but essentially scouts saw him come from unknown to full time KHLer. Some camps think he has more offense. But at minimum you never find 6'7 kids with that level of skating and coordination defensively.

You're looking at a pretty unique defenseman and even if you get a Carlo or a late career Chara, those guys are tough to play against. The reach and great skating can even the playing field against skill and speed.

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[1000eeer]

Just for fun,

NHL comparables:

Demidov = Kiril Kaprizov
Ignila = JT Miller
Lindstrom = Alex Tuch/B. Tkachuk (don't see him becoming a center at the NHL Level/low hockey IQ)
Catton = Logan Cooley/Barzal

 

[Jabba11]

Only on the PP. McKenna didn't really go gangbusters this year until Lindstrom got hurt.

Lindstrom and Basha were at the hip, though.



I don't like him that much but essentially scouts saw him come from unknown to full time KHLer. Some camps think he has more offense. But at minimum you never find 6'7 kids with that level of skating and coordination defensively.

You're looking at a pretty unique defenseman and even if you get a Carlo or a late career Chara, those guys are tough to play against. The reach and great skating can even the playing field against skill and speed.

Is he a better prospect than Zadorov was? Similarities?

 

[SlafySZN]

I wouldn't mind being in porn but sometimes things just don't work out

He played center often this year. I don’t doubt he can do it at the next level too. You usually want your best player in the middle.

 

[Deebs]

He played center often this year. I don’t doubt he can do it at the next level too. You usually want your best player in the middle.

Maybe he can....I was just having some fun with it.

 

[CHwest]

It feels like Lindstrom, Iginla, or Senecke.

Any worries Lindsteom's production is due to pkaying with Gavin McKenna? I don't watch them, so I don't even know if they play on the same line.

I believe at the time Lindstrom went down he was leading the team in points as well as being number 1 centre, Lindstrom that is. Gavin just kept improving throughout the season and finished very strong.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Is he a better prospect than Zadorov was? Similarities?

I think he is yeah, Zadorov is more physical but Silayevs IQ seems pretty high

 

[Hins77]

Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom, Catton, Iginla. This is 5 players, Montreal picks 5. Pick someone in that group and I will be Happy. Wich one will be there at 5?

 

[Mrb1p]

Is he a better prospect than Zadorov was? Similarities?

Yea there are. I was a massive fan of big Z in his draft year, I had him inside my top 10. Zadorov was waaaay more physical and way more of a loose cannon even offensively, I saw him on breakaways a number of times in his draft year. Silayev is much more tame in that aspect. I'd say Silayev is clearly smarter and a better skater. Zadorov also had better hands, but Silayev is a better playmaker. Their shots are both not assets but not weaknesses.

I would compare him to Myers a bit more though, just because he's not punishing physically, like Z. Also the skating is closer.

With that said man, big men take a while to arrive. I feel like Zadorov is just now starting to scratch his true potential, I'm not sure it's a bad thing to compare them but I'm also skeptical of the time constraint this would put on our rebuild.

I believe at the time Lindstrom went down he was leading the team in points as well as being number 1 centre, Lindstrom that is. Gavin just kept improving throughout the season and finished very strong.

No Basha had more points

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Just for fun,

NHL comparables:

Demidov = Kiril Kaprizov
Ignila = JT Miller
Lindstrom = Alex Tuch/B. Tkachuk (don't see him becoming a center at the NHL Level/low hockey IQ)
Catton = Logan Cooley/Barzal

Celebrini: Toews
Demidov: Kaprizov would be closest, but either better hands and vision and a worse shot
Catton: Cooley
Buium: Fox
Dickinson: Ekblad
Levshunov: Sergachev
Sennecke: Bobby Ryan with better skating
Lindstrom: Brady
Parekh: Makar with worse skating
Iginla: I like your JT comparison
Helenius: Aho stylistically though not as talented
Yakemchuk: Faulk/Werenski
Silayev: a better Oleksiak/Carlo

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I really don't see the dynamic qualities with Buium. He strikes me as much more of a Fox than a Makar. Makar is basically Mackinnon on D with one of the best wristers in the league, and possibly the best lateral movement in the league. Buium is a good skater but not elite, he has a decent shot but not elite, but he's brilliant with his vision, passing, and ability to manipulate to open up lanes.

Parekh's skating isn't at Makar's level, but stylistically he's much closer to him than Buium is. I think between the two of them you're looking at Makar-lite vs Fox-lite.

Then Levshunov is more of a Sergachev type, maybe with a higher ceiling given his work ethic and focus. Dickinson reminds me a bit of Ekblad, both with the good and the bad. Silayev I think of as a more talented Oleksiak, though obviously with a player like him comparisons are a bit harder to draw. Yakemchuk is tough too, a bit of Werenski in his game, a bit of Faulk.

Ya this was basically my point. Buium could be a great player, but more in the Markov mold than the Makar mold. Parekh is more that game breaker offensively. Buium is more of a guy who wins because of his intelligence as opposed to dynamic skating and skills.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

It feels like Lindstrom, Iginla, or Senecke.

Any worries Lindsteom's production is due to pkaying with Gavin McKenna? I don't watch them, so I don't even know if they play on the same line.

My concern isn’t that, I just have a tough time trusting giants dominating junior with their physicality. A lot of his skills look better than they are because guys back off of him and that’s not going to happen in the NHL. Slafkovsky I liked more because we saw him do it against men and he just had the more well rounded tool kit.

Lindstrom has an immediate path to success though. I think he’ll have no issues being a power goal scoring winger. Put him beside Dach and those two can wreck shop with Dach doing most of the heavy lifting and Lindstrom finishing plays while bringing a heavy element.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Lindstrom this year allows you to grab the Benson/Cooley of next year's draft without worry.

Lindstrom Dach Slafkovsky in the top 6 is more than enough beef.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

The way Buium rags the puck reminds me of Subban (since we're talking comparables to pass the 6-7 weeks before the draft happens...)