HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 157 49.2%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 10 3.1%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 70 21.9%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 11 3.4%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 54 16.9%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 17 5.3%

  • Total voters
    319

Harry Kakalovich

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Many have no clue just how skilled Sennecke is and how everything's been coming together for him since the new year. This isn't just a short term playoff streak. We're in month 5 of very dominant play.

He may be the 2nd best puck handler in this draft class (I'd probably put Demidov #1 for puck skills).
AND he's 6'3" - he's the player I'd like the Habs to get. He won't be waiting long to hear his name on draft day.
 

Schooner Guy

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Do you know if Sennecke used his body to hit/separate players from the puck?
He does use his body and plays physical.

To add to what WTK said, he was a puck hound who played the body before his growth spurt. This season he had to deal with coordination, balance and strength issues after growing too much too fast and that part of his game became less effective. So he moved to other tools to deal with it. He needs to fill out his new body and he's not exactly aware he's 6'3 yet.
He also played hurt during the first half of the season.

Sennecke. This type of player help win games.
He has certainly been helping Oshawa win games. ;)
 

sampollock

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what if KH traded the 5th pick overall???
For what? Should he? Would he??

I feel nothing is off the table with KH
I am not sure I would, but..... could that get the habs a better top 6 scorer???
 

crosbyshow

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I prefer Senneke than Lindstrom and Iginla.

Senneke has a better vision and Iq by a lot.

You guys know me..my man from 3rd overall is Catton but I would not be upset at all with Senneke.

Iginla, hard to put my finger on it..there is something missing in his game to be a successful top 6 in the NHL in my view . I like him but not at 5th
 

WeThreeKings

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I agree they're in the same tier, I just don't agree that we should be looking at that tier barring a trade up from the WPG pick or down from our pick.

Well if Demidov Celebrini and Lindstrom are gone in the top 5 or 6 and we are picking after that, you have to pick from that tier.
 

WeThreeKings

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Fair, but it's not like you can't say similar things about Lindstrom and Catton.

Those are the 6 guys "in the conversation", right?

I feel comfortable with Lindstrom and Catton. I was speaking me personally as others might not have questions about guys I do, I'm all for diversity of thought.

If you believe the noise it's
Celebrini
Demidov
Lindstrom
Iginla/Sennecke

So more of a 5, I'd say Catton might still be in play but as of right now we are being told more that he's not.

what if KH traded the 5th pick overall???
For what? Should he? Would he??

I feel nothing is off the table with KH
I am not sure I would, but..... could that get the habs a better top 6 scorer???

He won't. Arpon pretty much squashed a defenseman with the pick or trading the pick. They're confident they are getting a forward they want.
 
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Deebs

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If the Habs can add Beckett Sennecke I'm thrilled. I think he's gone before they pick though.
If he's gone by the time we pick, that's great news for us.
what if KH traded the 5th pick overall???
For what? Should he? Would he??

I feel nothing is off the table with KH
I am not sure I would, but..... could that get the habs a better top 6 scorer???
I brought this up a few days ago. I can definitely see this happening if we have a specific target in mind. A young, established forward who is on a team that needs a shakeup could very well be in the mix. All scenarios and possibilities should be in the mix and judging from Kent's recent history, it will be.
 

morhilane

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Iginla, hard to put my finger on it..there is something missing in his game to be a successful top 6 in the NHL in my view . I like him but not at 5th
From what I read and seen, your "hard to put my finger on it" is probably that he's currently projecting as a complementary shooter at the NHL level because his "playmaking" isn't progressing much.

As for at "5th", unless you are fine with a dmen, Iginla-level talent is what you are going to get after Celebrini/Demidov. Just in different flavors.
 

Gabouch04

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Hello everyone, I often read this forum and consult different sources on my own, I'm a draft junky and I discuss it almost daily with a friend. For this list, I looked more at the evaluations and matches of the players in tier4 since the chances are that the Canadian will draft one of these players unless they win the lottery. There will be more explanations for these players.

Here is my list of attackers which is intended to be as objective as possible.

1- Celebrini (Tier 1)

It's a no brainer to me and pretty much everyone else in the community, so I won't waste much time here. Will make the jump next year.

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2- Demidov (Tier 2)

Best foward available after Celebrini by a significant margin. I don't think he's going to wait much compared to Michkov last year given his style of play which is more transferable to the NHL. Tendency to slow down the game like Kucherov.

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3- Lindstrom (Tier 3)

Assuming the injury rumors aren't too serious, he should be the 3rd forward called up. The combo of size, speed and grit will mean that he will go very high. I have questions about his hockey IQ, but even if he becomes a winger (might have difficulty feeding his wingers), he will have a guaranteed spot in the top 6 given his attributes.

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4- Sennecke (Tier 4)

Probably one of my hot takes who hasn't been one for a few days, but he has everything you need in a 1st line winger: Speed, good size, excellent hands & good hockey IQ. The combination of these attributes is superior to the rest of Tier 4, with other players having more red flags. Stylistically I see a mix of Bobby Ryan / T.J. Oshie with better skating/better vision.

5- Helenius (Tier 4)

One of the most underrated players in the draft since he's not flashy, but he does all the little things very well. Probably the best hockey IQ in the draft, often an overlooked aspect in evaluating a player. The player has the same criticism as Suzuki in his draft, that's my comparison.

6- Eiserman (Tier 4)

Along with Catton, he is one of the most polarizing players in the draft in my opinion. He has an elite attribute and it is easy to determine that he will be at least a power play specialist. Good skating, he will never be a defensive ace. I see a Kyle Connor in this player. I see him being drafted by a team further along in its rebuilding process (Ottawa, New Jersey, Calgary), since the risk is high and he will need to be well surrounded offensively.

7- Iginla (Tier 4)

He disappointed me slightly at U18, I expected him to stand out more and be more dominant, especially for a player projected as high as him. This tells me that he will not be a ''Play Driver'' at the next level, but more of a complementary player in a top 6 that you can change lines according to affinities. I see him as a Sam Bennett with less grit and more skills.

8- Catton (Tier 4)

Ranking him that high won't be popular here, since many fans want a player who produces a lot of points. However, he counts the majority of his goals/points on the rush in junior. With a better defensive structure of the teams when he turns pro, I think he will have difficulty making the pro transition. Furthermore, I don't see him reaching his full potential in a team like the Canadiens because we already have several small players (under 6 feet). I compare him to Terevainen in terms of style.

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Tier 5

9- Brandsegg-Nygard

10- Greentree

11-Connelly

12- Hage

13- Basha

14- Chernyshov

15- Hemming
 

Rapala

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He disappointed me slightly at U18, I expected him to stand out more and be more dominant, especially for a player projected as high as him. This tells me that he will not be a ''Play Driver'' at the next level, but more of a complementary player in a top 6 that you can change lines according to affinities. I see him as a Sam Bennett with less grit and more skills.
Yeah now that the important games are upon us...
It just might be a good idea to wait until it's over before giving Iginla a grade on the U18.
 
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Harry Kakalovich

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Hello everyone, I often read this forum and consult different sources on my own, I'm a draft junky and I discuss it almost daily with a friend. For this list, I looked more at the evaluations and matches of the players in tier4 since the chances are that the Canadian will draft one of these players unless they win the lottery. There will be more explanations for these players.

Here is my list of attackers which is intended to be as objective as possible.

1- Celebrini (Tier 1)

It's a no brainer to me and pretty much everyone else in the community, so I won't waste much time here. Will make the jump next year.

----------

2- Demidov (Tier 2)

Best foward available after Celebrini by a significant margin. I don't think he's going to wait much compared to Michkov last year given his style of play which is more transferable to the NHL. Tendency to slow down the game like Kucherov.

----------

3- Lindstrom (Tier 3)

Assuming the injury rumors aren't too serious, he should be the 3rd forward called up. The combo of size, speed and grit will mean that he will go very high. I have questions about his hockey IQ, but even if he becomes a winger (might have difficulty feeding his wingers), he will have a guaranteed spot in the top 6 given his attributes.

----------

4- Sennecke (Tier 4)

Probably one of my hot takes who hasn't been one for a few days, but he has everything you need in a 1st line winger: Speed, good size, excellent hands & good hockey IQ. The combination of these attributes is superior to the rest of Tier 4, with other players having more red flags. Stylistically I see a mix of Bobby Ryan / T.J. Oshie with better skating/better vision.

5- Helenius (Tier 4)

One of the most underrated players in the draft since he's not flashy, but he does all the little things very well. Probably the best hockey IQ in the draft, often an overlooked aspect in evaluating a player. The player has the same criticism as Suzuki in his draft, that's my comparison.

6- Eiserman (Tier 4)

Along with Catton, he is one of the most polarizing players in the draft in my opinion. He has an elite attribute and it is easy to determine that he will be at least a power play specialist. Good skating, he will never be a defensive ace. I see a Kyle Connor in this player. I see him being drafted by a team further along in its rebuilding process (Ottawa, New Jersey, Calgary), since the risk is high and he will need to be well surrounded offensively.

7- Iginla (Tier 4)

He disappointed me slightly at U18, I expected him to stand out more and be more dominant, especially for a player projected as high as him. This tells me that he will not be a ''Play Driver'' at the next level, but more of a complementary player in a top 6 that you can change lines according to affinities. I see him as a Sam Bennett with less grit and more skills.

8- Catton (Tier 4)

Ranking him that high won't be popular here, since many fans want a player who produces a lot of points. However, he counts the majority of his goals/points on the rush in junior. With a better defensive structure of the teams when he turns pro, I think he will have difficulty making the pro transition. Furthermore, I don't see him reaching his full potential in a team like the Canadiens because we already have several small players (under 6 feet). I compare him to Terevainen in terms of style.

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Tier 5

9- Brandsegg-Nygard

10- Greentree

11-Connelly

12- Hage

13- Basha

14- Chernyshov

15- Hemming
Nice list! Can you add the defensemen?
 

Schooner Guy

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Hello everyone, I often read this forum and consult different sources on my own, I'm a draft junky and I discuss it almost daily with a friend. For this list, I looked more at the evaluations and matches of the players in tier4 since the chances are that the Canadian will draft one of these players unless they win the lottery. There will be more explanations for these players.

Here is my list of attackers which is intended to be as objective as possible.

1- Celebrini (Tier 1)

It's a no brainer to me and pretty much everyone else in the community, so I won't waste much time here. Will make the jump next year.

----------

2- Demidov (Tier 2)

Best foward available after Celebrini by a significant margin. I don't think he's going to wait much compared to Michkov last year given his style of play which is more transferable to the NHL. Tendency to slow down the game like Kucherov.

----------

3- Lindstrom (Tier 3)

Assuming the injury rumors aren't too serious, he should be the 3rd forward called up. The combo of size, speed and grit will mean that he will go very high. I have questions about his hockey IQ, but even if he becomes a winger (might have difficulty feeding his wingers), he will have a guaranteed spot in the top 6 given his attributes.

----------

4- Sennecke (Tier 4)

Probably one of my hot takes who hasn't been one for a few days, but he has everything you need in a 1st line winger: Speed, good size, excellent hands & good hockey IQ. The combination of these attributes is superior to the rest of Tier 4, with other players having more red flags. Stylistically I see a mix of Bobby Ryan / T.J. Oshie with better skating/better vision.

5- Helenius (Tier 4)

One of the most underrated players in the draft since he's not flashy, but he does all the little things very well. Probably the best hockey IQ in the draft, often an overlooked aspect in evaluating a player. The player has the same criticism as Suzuki in his draft, that's my comparison.

6- Eiserman (Tier 4)

Along with Catton, he is one of the most polarizing players in the draft in my opinion. He has an elite attribute and it is easy to determine that he will be at least a power play specialist. Good skating, he will never be a defensive ace. I see a Kyle Connor in this player. I see him being drafted by a team further along in its rebuilding process (Ottawa, New Jersey, Calgary), since the risk is high and he will need to be well surrounded offensively.

7- Iginla (Tier 4)

He disappointed me slightly at U18, I expected him to stand out more and be more dominant, especially for a player projected as high as him. This tells me that he will not be a ''Play Driver'' at the next level, but more of a complementary player in a top 6 that you can change lines according to affinities. I see him as a Sam Bennett with less grit and more skills.

8- Catton (Tier 4)

Ranking him that high won't be popular here, since many fans want a player who produces a lot of points. However, he counts the majority of his goals/points on the rush in junior. With a better defensive structure of the teams when he turns pro, I think he will have difficulty making the pro transition. Furthermore, I don't see him reaching his full potential in a team like the Canadiens because we already have several small players (under 6 feet). I compare him to Terevainen in terms of style.

----------

Tier 5

9- Brandsegg-Nygard

10- Greentree

11-Connelly

12- Hage

13- Basha

14- Chernyshov

15- Hemming
Good list and comments! I hope you post here more.
 

Riggins

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The time might be now to strike on a Xhekaj + pick(s) trade so we can secure two of these top forwards in the draft. He's the only young LD we can deal who will hold quite a bit of value (Guhle and Hutson are going nowhere).
 
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Rapala

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The time might be now to strike on a Xhekaj + pick(s) trade so we can secure two of these top forwards in the draft. He's the only young LD we can deal who will hold quite a bit of value (Guhle and Hutson are going nowhere).
Not gonna happen. If we were ever to trade Xhekaj it would be for a roster ready player.
 

Habssince89

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Moving up is smart if you can get a player that is sliding or that his rated very high on your list, if it's just trading up because you have too many draft pick, it's a bit useless and unnecessary.
I think consolidating value into a higher quality pick is smart when the movement is in the first 50 picks or so. Moving up can be unnecessary, but doesn't it seem like the Habs should be ensuring quality over quantity at this point in the rebuild?
 

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