HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 109 47.6%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 8 3.5%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 46 20.1%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 9 3.9%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 44 19.2%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 13 5.7%

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Lafleurs Guy

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No. You want to trade away Caufield ?
We have five guys in our top six if you include Roy. We are jammed to the gills on LD.

Buium doesn’t make sense unless we trade away Guhle/Hutson. Drafting Buium to play on the third pairing doesn’t make sense. Do you want Guehle to permanently be in the right side? That doesn’t make sense either.

Yes, I’d take Eiserman (an unpopular take here) but I’m very happy with Lidstrom,Demidov, Catton…. I’ll be happy with any of those players. All of them will bring a dimension we need.
 
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Mrb1p

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We have five guys in our top six if you include Roy. We are jammed to the gills on LD.

Buium doesn’t make sense unless we trade away Guhle/Hutson. Drafting Buium to play on the third pairing doesn’t make sense. Do you want Guehle to permanently be in the right side? It doesn’t make sense.

Yes, I’d take Eiserman (an unpopular take here) but I’m very happy with Lidstrom,Demidov, Catton…. I’ll be happy with any of those players. All of them will bring a dimension we need.
We have two potential guys in the top 4 at LD. Displacing one of those to the RD, trading him or the possibility of Hutson just not making it makes it so that picking Buium isn't some sort of nail in the coffin, not any more than picking Eiserman when we have Caufield, at least. There's no way Buium would play on the third pair, he'd be a staple on the first pair and he'd push Guhle to the 2nd pair, a luxury. Hutson could be traded away or used as a PP specialist/3 on 3 specialist while playing his regular 3rd pair shift.

It's not ideal, but the fact you defend picking Eiserman but are categorical on Buium is illogical.
 

The Great Weal

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We have two potential guys in the top 4 at LD. Displacing one of those to the RD, trading him or the possibility of Hutson just not making it makes it so that picking Buium isn't some sort of nail in the coffin, not any more than picking Eiserman when we have Caufield, at least. There's no way Buium would play on the third pair, he'd be a staple on the first pair and he'd push Guhle to the 2nd pair, a luxury. Hutson could be traded away or used as a PP specialist/3 on 3 specialist while playing his regular 3rd pair shift.

It's not ideal, but the fact you defend picking Eiserman but are categorical on Buium is illogical.
I also think Guhle's gotten better at playing the right side. A lot of dmen are starting to play both. Look at Heiskanen for instance.

Buium-Guhle
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj/Struble-Mailloux
 
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Mrb1p

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I also think Guhle's gotten better at playing the right side. A lot of dmen are starting to play both. Look at Heiskanen for instance.

Buium-Guhle
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj/Struble-Mailloux
Heiskanen isn't a very good example as he doesn't look very good on the right IMO, at least not to the extent of his talent.

I'd want Guhle on the left side ultimately, team composition can be modified when you have the pieces, passing a clearly superior player (If he is) because we have two other partially good players at home is infuriatingly stupid.

How far does it extend? If the Habs win the lottery, do we trade back because the Habs have Suzuki and Dach ? Like come on.
 

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How far does it extend? If the Habs win the lottery, do we trade back because the Habs have Suzuki and Dach ? Like come on.

Celebrini is on a tier of its own. He's far better than the rest. That's not the case with Buium. At 5, he will not be far better than the forwards that will he available. Buium wasn't even ranked top 12 in Bob's mid season ranking.
 

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Celebrini is on a tier of its own. He's far better than the rest. That's not the case with Buium. At 5, he will not be far better than the forwards that will he available. Buium wasn't even ranked top 12 in Bob's mid season ranking.
And Suzuki and Dach are both much better than Guhle and Hutson and Xhekaj. Thus, not a logical process.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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We have two potential guys in the top 4 at LD. Displacing one of those to the RD, trading him or the possibility of Hutson just not making it makes it so that picking Buium isn't some sort of nail in the coffin, not any more than picking Eiserman when we have Caufield, at least. There's no way Buium would play on the third pair, he'd be a staple on the first pair and he'd push Guhle to the 2nd pair, a luxury. Hutson could be traded away or used as a PP specialist/3 on 3 specialist while playing his regular 3rd pair shift.

It's not ideal, but the fact you defend picking Eiserman but are categorical on Buium is illogical.
Forget Eiserman. It’s not a hill I’d die on and we’re not drafting him. Lidstrom? Great. Demidov? Great. Catton? Great.

Get a forward.
 

The Great Weal

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Heiskanen isn't a very good example as he doesn't look very good on the right IMO, at least not to the extent of his talent.
Pretty sure he got his best season playing on the right side. Dahlin is another guy that plays both.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Heiskanen isn't a very good example as he doesn't look very good on the right IMO, at least not to the extent of his talent.

I'd want Guhle on the left side ultimately, team composition can be modified when you have the pieces, passing a clearly superior player (If he is) because we have two other partially good players at home is infuriatingly stupid.

How far does it extend? If the Habs win the lottery, do we trade back because the Habs have Suzuki and Dach ? Like come on.
If you want Guhle here on the left side… we’ve already got Hutson. Matheson is already going to have to be dealt and we’ve got tons of other players. Plus we need a top six forward.

If Buium were a RD I’d be all in but that’s not the case. It just doesn’t make any sense unless you start trading guys off and then you’re setting the rebuild back further.

We clearly need a forward and there’s good talent available. Dont complicate things. Draft the forward and move on.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Lindstrom, for sure. What about Iginla?
Iginla? Sure. I’m good with any of those guys. I’ll defer to the scouts, they’ve done a great job so far.

All these players will bring an element we don’t have. I love the idea of Lidstrom because we’d be a big strong club. Demidov would bring sizzle up from that we haven’t seen since Mats Naslund. It’s all good.
 

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Iginla? Sure. I’m good with any of those guys. I’ll defer to the scouts, they’ve done a great job so far.

All these players will bring an element we don’t have. I love the idea of Lidstrom because we’d be a big strong club. Demidov would bring sizzle up from that we haven’t seen since Mats Naslund. It’s all good.
You're obviously forgetting about the brilliant Jonathan Drouin
 
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Yeah, that would cause absolute chaos if we end up drafting LD after he said 15 times we aren't drafting LD. Lol

I don't really want to trade down. Just take the forward you want at #5. I don't trust Ottawa at all and don't want to draft behind them.

I think Hughes is pretty well informed on who is likely to draft whom, though. He didn't trade down last year because he knew Arizona was taking Reinbacher at #6, and they really wanted Reinbacher, so they had to stay at #5.

The only way I see a trade down is if they really want Helenius and know they can trade back to take him.
I hope they don't trade down either if @ 5 but I'd maybe flip with the team directly behind the Habs, for an additional pick or prospect, if the team directly behind the Habs really had their eyes set on one of the LHD and they were afraid another team might trade up with the Habs and jump them and take the guy they really wanted before they could.
 
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Frozenice

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Celebrini is on a tier of its own. He's far better than the rest. That's not the case with Buium. At 5, he will not be far better than the forwards that will he available. Buium wasn't even ranked top 12 in Bob's mid season ranking.
If the Habs thought the forwards were on the same level as the top LD’s in the draft, Hughes wouldn’t of made that comment about trading down.
 

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If we could land either of Catton, Iginla or Helenius at #9 i would trade down with CGY
 
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Gustave

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If i could land either of Catton, Iginla or Helenius at #9 i would trade down with CGY
Not against any of your choices, they’re all fine, but I hate trading down, especially for more picks. Considering we might have the biggest prospect pool in the league (quantity wise), I don’t want more picks or prospects. I’d need an NHl ready quality prospect and the 9 spot, so that rules out the Flames in that scenario.

I’d say just take the one you prefer and roll with it.
 

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