HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[ginomini]

In the WHL. Whether he can, or will even bother to try, to do in the NHL at that size remains to be seen. I’ll be surprised if he’s drafted in the top 15, given his size and where Benson, who’s probably a better player, was drafted last year.

Benson fell because of size + skating. I don't think that the same red flags will be used for Catton.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Benson fell because of size + skating. I don't think that the same red flags will be used for Catton.

Benson also had multiple shoulder injuries.. Catton has the hip issue but played all his games and playoff games and logged near 30 minutes in each, too.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[sampollock]

Go Blades tomorrow night.. sadly a fig prospect on the team

 

[Schooner Guy]

No progression!

Two of them were goals 8 and 9 vs an overmatched Team Slovakia in a 9-0 game. The entire world knows he can score....and man can he ever score. However, I really don't think today showed anything we don't know.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Two of them were goals 8 and 9 vs an overmatched Team Slovakia in a 9-0 game. The entire world knows he can score....and man can he ever score. However, I really don't think today showed anything we don't know.

It wasn't an inspiring hat-trick.

Got an open net off of a failed attempt by Ziemer at the side of the net.
Jammed home his fifteenth attempt on a rebound.
Deflected off him.

The rest of the time he didn't really create anything.. like I know that's silly to say about a hat-trick, but I've soured a lot on this guy since this time last year. At least with Caufield you were confident the shot would translate, I don't even know if Eiserman's shot is that good but it does seem to fool goalies at every level he's played so maybe there is some deceptive element to it.

 

[Schooner Guy]

It wasn't an inspiring hat-trick.

Got an open net off of a failed attempt by Ziemer at the side of the net.
Jammed home his fifteenth attempt on a rebound.
Deflected off him.

The rest of the time he didn't really create anything.. like I know that's silly to say about a hat-trick, but I've soured a lot on this guy since this time last year. At least with Caufield you were confident the shot would translate, I don't even know if Eiserman's shot is that good but it does seem to fool goalies at every level he's played so maybe there is some deceptive element to it.

Oh Eiserman can definitely shoot. I think Caufield's better at finding open areas (more willing) and more elusive however.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

That draft sim is so fun. Just did one. Had the 5th pick. Traded back to 9th. Then made a whole bunch of trades to score the 10th and 18th. Based on the randomness of the rankings on that site, I ended up with.....

9th - Lindstrom
10th - Buium
18th - Iginla
198th - Kaden Pitre - C
210th - Samuel Kupec - LD
217th - Marko Bilic - G

I hope that you get a seat at the draft table.

This is the reason that I can't understand those who are threatening to abandon the team if Hughes and Company draft another defenceman at 5 OA. Drafting the best player available is, and remains, an unimpeachable strategy.

Who exactly is making such a threat?
(Perhaps one of my many ignores...)

 

[JeffreyLFC]

What are the attributes you put first for BPA ?

#1 = Hockey IQ
#2 = Size
#3 = Skating skills
#4 = Position
#5 = Shoot, passing skills
#6 = Grid
#7 = Attitude
#8 = Injurie prone
#9 = From where (Country, what teams he played for)
#10 = Intellect (i think you can have great hockey IQ and poor intellect)

My number two traits, are #work ethic + #competitiveness then the rest.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

What are the attributes you put first for BPA ?

#1 = Hockey IQ
...
#9 = From where (Country, what teams he played for)
#10 = Intellect (i think you can have great hockey IQ and poor intellect)

The two bolded, to me, are highly positively correlated. It's rare to find that kind of idiot savant with high hockey IQ.

 

[Leto]

I've looked at the match replay, it looks like a left knee injury. Here's the sequence where he injured himself. The injury is at 27:23, the replay is at 28:19 :

 

[JeffreyLFC]

The two bolded, to me, are highly positively correlated. It's rare to find that kind of idiot savant with high hockey IQ.

Mike Ribeiro beg to differ.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

In the WHL. Whether he can, or will even bother to try, to do in the NHL at that size remains to be seen. I’ll be surprised if he’s drafted in the top 15, given his size and where Benson, who’s probably a better player, was drafted last year.

He's one of the smartest players in the draft, I have no concern about him adapting to the NHL. He'll have his moments where he does too much or tries to cut to the inside and it doesn't work, but he'll quickly figure out how to read defenses at that level, and will make the adjustments to succeed.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Mike Ribeiro beg to differ.

He's the exception that confirms the rule. It's telling that you had to go back in time for such a counterexample. Though I agree with you that he is a moron of epic proportions.

 

[Nicko999]

For me, the hockey IQ is #1, and by very far.

1. Hockey IQ
---------------
2. Shoot, passing skills
3. Skating skill.
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4. Position: I'd never draft a goalie in the 1st round, maybe not in 2nd round neither. At equal talent, I'd take a C over a W or a D.
5. Size: This attribute is very often over-rated by GMs.
6. Attitude: this might be more important than the position and size, but this attribute isn't clear, it's subjective. Moreover, some are already mature at 18, some become mature at 22.
7. Injury history: similarly, this might be ranked higher than position and size, but since most of them are in a good shape, so this attribute isn't that important.
8. Toughness
9. From where: the League where he plays is more important than his country or team
10. Intellect: some goon or 4th liners are quite smart in life: Parros, Laraque, Quintal, Darche, etc.

Hockey IQ is #1

Durability is #2

The rest is pretty similar to your list.

 

[WinterLion]

I've looked at the match replay, it looks like a left knee injury. Here's the sequence where he injured himself. The injury is at 27:23, the replay is at 28:19 :

So in summary, all the F's are injury prone and too risky to draft! Yay!

 

[Kent Nilsson]

What are the attributes you put first for BPA ?

#1 = Hockey IQ
#2 = Size
#3 = Skating skills
#4 = Position
#5 = Shoot, passing skills
#6 = Grid
#7 = Attitude
#8 = Injurie prone
#9 = From where (Country, what teams he played for)
#10 = Intellect (i think you can have great hockey IQ and poor intellect)

1. Stats
2. Height
3. Position
4. Name vibe

 

[Lockin17]

Mike Ribeiro beg to differ.

My point ;-)

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

So in summary, all the F's are injury prone and too risky to draft! Yay!

Would suck for hockey if Demidov were to become injury prone.

I noted he tried skating entering the second period for a bit, but was clearly in pain. Loko was in the midst of a horrible performance, so SKA correctly let him sit the rest of it out.

If SKA were to lose today, I wonder if he might come back later to help close out the series.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

1. Stats
2. Height
3. Position
4. Name vibe

Agreed. If you can't build your entire draft list with hockeydb, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Mrb1p]

1. Stats
2. Height
3. Position
4. Name vibe

Did you forget

5. Nationality

 

[Kent Nilsson]

Did you forget

5. Nationality

I prefer to use that for “NHL comparable”.

 

[Redux91]

1. Stats
2. Height
3. Position
4. Name vibe

# of games vs Kazakhstan.

 

[Saxon]

IQ, competitiveness, durability, work ethic….. sounds like everyone is describing Helenius……

 

[Ozmodiar]

What are the attributes you put first for BPA ?

#1 = Hockey IQ
#2 = Size
#3 = Skating skills
#4 = Position
#5 = Shoot, passing skills
#6 = Grid
#7 = Attitude
#8 = Injurie prone
#9 = From where (Country, what teams he played for)
#10 = Intellect (i think you can have great hockey IQ and poor intellect)

You’re missing 2 core skills: stick handling and checking.