2024 NHL Draft Thread Part 2 - Picks 2 & 20 in the 1st Round

[razor ray]

At No. 2, should Blackhawks draft Demidov, Levshunov or neither?

The Blackhawks' pick at No. 2 likely comes down to two players: Demidov or Levshunov. Here are the factors to consider.

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Powers asks 9 different draft experts their opinion on who the Hawks should take between Demidov and Levshunov. Only Corey Pronman picks Lev.

Pronmans theory has always been if value is basically equal go with the the defenseman. I would assume that is why he would go D. With the needs for Chicago at RW and RD I would go Demidov and, if possible, trade up to get one of these RD as its rare to have so many high level D in the draft:

I think any of the teams from 7 to 15 would consider moving their pick for the right haul and this might be the year for Chicago to aggressive to get the RD they need. Especially if moving Jones is being considered.

 

[scorehawks]

Jones can't go anywhere without huge salary retention.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Pronmans theory has always been if value is basically equal go with the the defenseman. I would assume that is why he would go D. With the needs for Chicago at RW and RD I would go Demidov and, if possible, trade up to get one of these RD as its rare to have so many high level D in the draft:
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I think any of the teams from 7 to 15 would consider moving their pick for the right haul and this might be the year for Chicago to aggressive to get the RD they need. Especially if moving Jones is being considered.

If we take Demidov, I do hope the Hawks can land a Jiricek, Elick, Emery, Badnarick with one of their other picks. Maybe use a couple of seconds (along with 20th overall) and move up if someone like Yak falls to the mid teens.

 

[Darkstar]

Demidov and yakemchuk please

All day.

 

[Darkstar]

Higher likelihood he goes top 10 than him making it to 20.

I could see a team like Ottawa taking him at 7.

We're going to see a run of D taken off the board.

Lev, Buium, Silayev, Parekh, Dickinson, Yakemchuk. They're all gonna fly off the board.

I agree. I think there's a chance that Yakemchuk goes shockingly high. This draft will be must watch TV.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Pronmans theory has always been if value is basically equal go with the the defenseman.

In any given draft there's like maybe 6 worthwhile D that emerge.

You're far more likely to hit on a forward.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I'm no good at making predictions, but I think the 1st round could look something like this:

1. SJS - Macklin Celebrini
2. CHI - Anton Silayev
3. ANA - Ivan Demidov
4. CBJ - Sam Dickinson
5. MTL - Cayden Lindstrom
6. UTH - Artyom Levshunov
7. OTT - Zayne Parekh
8. SEA - Zeev Buium
9. CGY - Tij Iginla
10. NJD - Beckett Sennecke
11. BUF - Berkly Catton
12. PHI - Carter Yakemchuk
13. MIN - Cole Eiserman
14. SJS - Konsta Helenius
15. DET - Michael Brandsegg Nygard
16. STL - Trevor Connelly
17. WSH - Liam Greentree
18. NYI - Michael Hage
19. VGK - Igor Chernyshov
20. CHI - Nikita Artamonov
21. LAK - Andrew Basha
22. NSH - Adam Jiricek
23. TOR - Terik Parascak
24. ANA - Alfons Freij
25. COL - Sacha Boisvert
26. OTT - Charlie Elick
27. MTL - Dean Letourneau
28. CAR - Miguel Marques
29. CGY - Ryder Ritchie
30. PHI - Teddy Stiga
31. DAL - Emil Hemming
32. NYR - Maxim Massé

 

[dj Mahoney]

I'm no good at making predictions, but I think the 1st round could look something like this:

1. SJS - Macklin Celebrini
2. CHI - Anton Silayev
3. ANA - Ivan Demidov
4. CBJ - Sam Dickinson
5. MTL - Cayden Lindstrom
6. UTH - Artyom Levshunov
7. OTT - Zayne Parekh
8. SEA - Zeev Buium
9. CGY - Tij Iginla
10. NJD - Beckett Sennecke
11. BUF - Berkly Catton
12. PHI - Carter Yakemchuk
13. MIN - Cole Eiserman
14. SJS - Konsta Helenius
15. DET - Michael Brandsegg Nygard
16. STL - Trevor Connelly
17. WSH - Liam Greentree
18. NYI - Michael Hage
19. VGK - Igor Chernyshov
20. CHI - Nikita Artamonov
21. LAK - Andrew Basha
22. NSH - Adam Jiricek
23. TOR - Terik Parascak
24. ANA - Alfons Freij
25. COL - Sacha Boisvert
26. OTT - Charlie Elick
27. MTL - Dean Letourneau
28. CAR - Miguel Marques
29. CGY - Ryder Ritchie
30. PHI - Teddy Stiga
31. DAL - Emil Hemming
32. NYR - Maxim Massé

Pass , Silayev is the same player that Vlasic is and we picked him the the 2nd rd not 2nd overall. Demidov could be Datsyuk , Kane or Kucherov .

 

[Kevin Musto]

Pass , Silayev is the same player that Vlasic is and we picked him the the 2nd rd not 2nd overall. Demidov could be Datsyuk , Kane or Kucherov .

Silayev could be Chara.

If Demidov could be Datsyuk, Kane, or Kucherov he'd be a lock for 1st overall. Instead there are scouts on Bob's list who have him as low as 5.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Silayev could be Chara.

If Demidov could be Datsyuk, Kane, or Kucherov he'd be a lock for 1st overall. Instead there are scouts on Bob's list who have him as low as 5.

If Silayev could be Chara, he'd be a lock for 1st overall.

 

[dj Mahoney]

My choices would probably be Demidov followed by the 2 Norwegians

 

[clydesdale line]

Depends where the Hawks view Levshunov vs Demidov. If they view those guys the same for sone reason, tie probably goes to the defenseman since it's going to be a run of them in the draft and they can draft a Greentree/Hage type player at #20.

If I were a betting man though, they view Demidov higher (as they should), they'll pick him, and hope someone like Jiricek drops to #20 which would be A ok with me.

 

[razor ray]

Jones can't go anywhere without huge salary retention.

Potentially, but over the years we have witnessed some crazy trades and top pairing D hold a lot of value. With the cap going up I could see a contending team considering Jones at 8.5 or even 9 mill for 6 years. He also mentioned he does not want to stay for a rebuild so I would think he would be more flexible with his NMC if a team is contending.

 

[WarLax]

Silayev could be Chara.

If Demidov could be Datsyuk, Kane, or Kucherov he'd be a lock for 1st overall. Instead there are scouts on Bob's list who have him as low as 5.

If Datsyuk could be Datsyuk he would have been 1st overall and not....pick #171.

If Kucherov could be Kucherov he would have been 1st overall and not....pick #58.

If Panarin could be Panarin he would have been....well shit I don't know, maybe 1st overall and not....pick# oh wait he was undrafted.

It's not always immediately apparent with these guys, especially Russians it seems.

Edit: Dangit I forgot about Kaprizov!

 

[Mrfenn92]

Here we go

2) Demidov
11) Yakemchuk (Skinner for AA trade)
20) Nygard
34) Mews or Badinka

 

[Kevin Musto]

Here we go

2) Demidov
11) Yakemchuk (Skinner for AA trade)
20) Nygard
34) Mews or Badinka

Toss Reichel in there for good measure.

 

[Darkstar]

Here we go

2) Demidov
11) Yakemchuk (Skinner for AA trade)
20) Nygard
34) Mews or Badinka

Very nice, but while I like Badinka, give me Elick or Solberg if available, instead of Mews.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

Here we go

2) Demidov
11) Yakemchuk (Skinner for AA trade)
20) Nygard
34) Mews or Badinka

I think I'd go with Surin at 34 and target Spencer Gill at 54

 

[DemiGod]

Here we go

2) Demidov
11) Yakemchuk (Skinner for AA trade)
20) Nygard
34) Mews or Badinka

This would be a dream scenario.

Demidov: player with the highest ceiling in the draft.
Nygard: power forward C/W like Kreider
Two RHD: Yakemchuk (6'3" 30 goals this season) rough gem defense and Badinka (6'3" 33 SHL games) dynamic and physical defense.
Mews: Defense to develop. Skilled, intelligent player learning the position.

 

[Mrfenn92]

This would be a dream scenario.

Demidov: player with the highest ceiling in the draft.
Nygard: power forward C/W like Kreider
Two RHD: Yakemchuk (6'3" 30 goals this season) rough gem defense and Badinka (6'3" 33 SHL games) dynamic and physical defense.
Mews: Defense to develop. Skilled, intelligent player learning the position.

Sign me up

 

[Toews2Bickell]

what about a scenario where they draft defense at 2 and then move up from 20 into the 10-15 range for Cole Eiserman if he slips into that Caufield range

 

[Cold Steel on Ice]

Take Solberg at 20.Need some nastiness for the playoffs eventually.He is rising fast.Second round take forwards with size that can grind.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

what about a scenario where they draft defense at 2 and then move up from 20 into the 10-15 range for Cole Eiserman if he slips into that Caufield range

No interest in trading up a few slots

Guys at #20 are in same talent/class as guy at #15

 

[BHawk21]

No interest in trading up a few slots

Guys at #20 are in same talent/class as guy at #15

Seems like most everyone is saying theres are a drop off after 15..

 

[kmwtrucks]

Seems like most everyone is saying theres are a drop off after 15..

we would have to give up next years first as well to move up 6-7 spots.