Trying to think of teams in the current era that have won built around the D. There's been some great teams for sure, but I think Nashville was closest. But it's crazy to think that a team like Tampa could've had Jones and Hedman. Granted it all worked out for them, but how much better could they have been and what might've Jones career looked like had he developed in that offensive minded system vs the stacked D system that was smashville.
2024 NHL Draft Thread (CBJ to pick 4th)
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I was having this talk with a friend yesterday. Assuming that they hit their ceilings, I think you could make the argument that Levshunov would be more important to their team than Celebrini. Also, I’d expect the top pair to feature Vlassic rather than Korchinski.
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Chicago has drafted plenty of forwards - like Moore and Nazar besides Bedard - so I think they are trying to be balanced. They have also drafted D like Rinzel and Allan late in the first round.
Jones and Hedman would have been crazy together. Also it is weird to think that Drouin could win a Cup this year after being pretty much written off, while people look at the Jones contract and laugh.
Buium is my favorite of the D so far.
Nothing spectacular, but it's not a spectacular draft.
Nothing spectacular, but it's not a spectacular draft.
I was surprised to look at his team page and see he was listed at 6'2". I thought he was smaller for some reason
He's not 6'2.
Still 6'0 per Russ with EP - he said he heard directly from Buium about that.
He doesn't looks small though. He's filled out okay and a very stable strong skater. Kind of a similar profile to Mateychuk but not as risky. Buium is more of a steady presence than Mateychuk.
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I'm not a Blue Jackets fan but for some reason for a month, ive had the feeling that Columbus would end up with Lindstrom. I may be way off base but the two parties seem destine to be together
Every team wants another power forward.
We'd have some good size in our forward group. On top of Lindstrom we've got Fantilli, and the whole Siberian Troika is beefy.
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Just read an in-depth article about Trevor Connelly on The Athletic written by Katie Strang (I like her work) and Corey Pronman.
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Connely is clearly a very talented yet polarizing player and while I suspect he is not the top seven pick we will likely have I am doubtful he will drop to the second round when we pick again. I am sure the CBJ would avoid him like the plague, this organization cannot afford another PR hit after Babcock.
I feel bad for fans of organizations that will have the dilemma of whether to draft this kid. I found the following quote really enlightening and probably reflects the way I feel.
“I believe in a path to redemption but it’s not my job to provide it,” said one scouting director.
Who will draft Trevor Connelly? Inside the NHL's evolving scrutiny of top prospects
NHL evaluators are encountering new areas of concern when judging the suitability of prospects for their franchises.
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Connely is clearly a very talented yet polarizing player and while I suspect he is not the top seven pick we will likely have I am doubtful he will drop to the second round when we pick again. I am sure the CBJ would avoid him like the plague, this organization cannot afford another PR hit after Babcock.
I feel bad for fans of organizations that will have the dilemma of whether to draft this kid. I found the following quote really enlightening and probably reflects the way I feel.
“I believe in a path to redemption but it’s not my job to provide it,” said one scouting director.
Just read an in-depth article about Trevor Connelly on The Athletic written by Katie Strang (I like her work) and Corey Pronman.
Who will draft Trevor Connelly? Inside the NHL's evolving scrutiny of top prospects
NHL evaluators are encountering new areas of concern when judging the suitability of prospects for their franchises.
Connely is clearly a very talented yet polarizing player and while I suspect he is not the top seven pick we will likely have I am doubtful he will drop to the second round when we pick again. I am sure the CBJ would avoid him like the plague, this organization cannot afford another PR hit after Babcock.
I feel bad for fans of organizations that will have the dilemma of whether to draft this kid. I found the following quote really enlightening and probably reflects the way I feel.
“I believe in a path to redemption but it’s not my job to provide it,” said one scouting director.
That's a pretty clear Do Not Draft.
I'm fine with kids making mistakes but this is a lot like the Miller situation in that there is a years long pattern of being an abusive person. They've also got the Miller family PR strategy of trying to portray the problem as a one time mistake.
Yep. Feels different from the Logan Mailloux situation, too. That was pretty clearly a kid who made a stupid mistake and got caught, faced the conesquences, and is moving on. This is a Miller situation. Let another org who doesn't have rexent severe PR problems take this one.
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As of right now, assuming that Columbus drafts between #2 and #7, my preference is for them to take Berkly Catton. The playmaking, offensive potential and defensive game are all very appealing. I think he would complement Fantilli really well.
I posted this on Indy's post on capfriendly this morning:
imo: buium does another year in college, levshunov goes right to the AHL and plays big minutes.
right now, i'm partial to levshunov + lindstrom + parekh as my top group (aside from celebrini, obviously). given how well boqvist has played lately with werenski, i bet parekh could fit pretty well in that spot long-term. his statistical profile is elite.
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Not related this or any other situation directly but I find this quote humorous.
If you aren't willing to take a step forward and attach your name and reputation to it in order to assist in the "path to redemption" then you don't really believe in it.
You make a good point, what we might have thought as a Columbus pick is irrelevant with a new GM coming in
Though I imagine the scouting staff is being left alone and that will change in the off-season, so this might be the last draft where what we think of as a Columbus pick actually applies.
I gave another viewing to the D. It does seem to be a sterling class for blueliners. Really the only guy who doesn't look impressive to me is Parekh, who might still follow a Brandt Clarke type of path, or maybe Boqvist. He has an elite shot, he might make a better winger. Zero defensive ability.
After watching all of them and coming back to Sam Dickinson it made me realize how elite his skating is. Dickinson can escape pressure with ease, very soft touch on his passes as well. He doesn't play with any bight or edge to his game. Seems to be a Hanifin type. And there's some ambiguity whether he'll be this year's Hanifin (#1D) or more the middle pair version. He's a lock for top 4D though, could play in the NHL maybe as soon as next year.
Buium I wrote about here recently, he's the most solid all aspects D. I like to compare him to Mateychuk but without so much risk. Very good decision maker at both ends. His scoring totals are astonishing too, draft eligible D shouldn't be able to do that in college.
Carter Yakemchuk is a lot of fun, seems like he might have some big offensive upside. He reminds me of Brent Burns a bit. Big frame. Not as good a skater actually, but very good handling and an elite shot. The WHL is too easy for him.
My last viewing of Levshunov wasn't as impressive. He just didn't do much and his decision making looked average. He hasn't looked like a top 5 guy to me in either of the games I watched.
I have no new thoughts on Silayev. Somewhere between Adam Pelech and Tyler Myers.
After watching all of them and coming back to Sam Dickinson it made me realize how elite his skating is. Dickinson can escape pressure with ease, very soft touch on his passes as well. He doesn't play with any bight or edge to his game. Seems to be a Hanifin type. And there's some ambiguity whether he'll be this year's Hanifin (#1D) or more the middle pair version. He's a lock for top 4D though, could play in the NHL maybe as soon as next year.
Buium I wrote about here recently, he's the most solid all aspects D. I like to compare him to Mateychuk but without so much risk. Very good decision maker at both ends. His scoring totals are astonishing too, draft eligible D shouldn't be able to do that in college.
Carter Yakemchuk is a lot of fun, seems like he might have some big offensive upside. He reminds me of Brent Burns a bit. Big frame. Not as good a skater actually, but very good handling and an elite shot. The WHL is too easy for him.
My last viewing of Levshunov wasn't as impressive. He just didn't do much and his decision making looked average. He hasn't looked like a top 5 guy to me in either of the games I watched.
I have no new thoughts on Silayev. Somewhere between Adam Pelech and Tyler Myers.
I like it. I seem to remember JayBo having elite speed, not just elite skating. Dickinson is not quite that fast but nonetheless fast enough to get out of trouble.
Totally agreed. I think he's the perfect compliment center to Fantilli. The passes that guy makes are unfair at times, sublime.
It seems that Levshunov's stock has been rising lately, so maybe he's been better since you last viewed him?
No it was recent. Could just be game to game variation. I don't like to get negative on a player like this who is playing okay but not catching my eye, not until I see a lot more. It's early.
My first game watching Mintyukov I didn't see anything.
Even though I like Catton, if Levshunov reaches his described potential, a top 4 of Werenski/Jiricek - Mateychuk/Levshunov does sound very appealing.
