2024 Draft Discussion

[Fyodorov]

Blackhawks are smart enough to pick Demidov unfortunately. Such a bad organization handsomely rewarded.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I will never forgive the league for the stupid f***ing lottery bullshit we went thru

Eh, I’m over it. The drafts it really f***ed us were 2017 and 2018. But I don’t have much faith that Holland would have made the right picks at #7 and #5 those years.

 

[lilidk]

It's new reality NHL makes sure we have a lot of teams that played a lot of games, so they make more money. Lottery helping that by encouraging some teams to tank . It's not fair for good teams and not fair for top prospects, but it's helping make for some money

 

[Frk It]

I won’t be surprised if it’s another defenseman with the top pick. I think that’s easily the best thing this draft class has to offer.

I think Connelly is a very appealing pick if he passes the scumbag test. Pretty easily the best play driver and most talented forward option we have in our range, assuming Iginla and Helenius are gone.

Not opposed to going “off the board” for a forward they really like, depending who it is. I’ve been a fan of Hage’s all year. Also like some other USHL kids (Boisvert and Gridin) and I find that Russian kid (Chernyshov) and Finnish kid (Hemming) interesting too.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I won’t be surprised if it’s another defenseman with the top pick. I think that’s easily the best thing this draft class has to offer.

I think Connelly is a very appealing pick if he passes the scumbag test. Pretty easily the best play driver and most talented forward option we have in our range, assuming Iginla and Helenius are gone.

Not opposed to going “off the board” for a forward they really like, depending who it is. I’ve been a fan of Hage’s all year. Also like some other USHL kids (Boisvert and Gridin) and I find that Russian kid (Chernyshov) and Finnish kid (Hemming) interesting too.

Sennecke could be available at 15 and might end up being a top 5 player from this class

 

[Frk It]

Sennecke could be available at 15 and might end up being a top 5 player from this class

That’s definitely a bold take. I think he has interesting upside, I also think there is a pretty wide range of outcomes for what he could be.

It makes me wonder a decent amount why someone with his size and touted skill level wasn’t able to hit the box score more.

 

[RedHawkDown]

That’s definitely a bold take. I think he has interesting upside, I also think there is a pretty wide range of outcomes for what he could be.

It makes me wonder a decent amount why someone with his size and touted skill level wasn’t able to hit the box score more.

That’s fair. I think gambling on his skill is worth it. It’s what we are lacking in the piepleine. I think he could have a Wyatt Johnston type explosion in his D+1

 

[Frk It]

That’s fair. I think gambling on his skill is worth it. It’s what we are lacking in the piepleine. I think he could have a Wyatt Johnston type explosion in his D+1

Either Greentree or Senecke would be fine picks by me. I could see either one becoming an impact player if they ace their development. Both have a good combo of size and skill.

 

[lilidk]

That’s definitely a bold take. I think he has interesting upside, I also think there is a pretty wide range of outcomes for what he could be.

It makes me wonder a decent amount why someone with his size and touted skill level wasn’t able to hit the box score more.

The most I like about him that he's trying to be line driver

 

[letsgowings9999]

I don't know what you know, they know but you clearly know one or the other is going to be drafted at 17. How you know and they don't know you know is not something I know.

What I do know is McKenzie does NOT have either ranked in the top 15, and the Wings own the 15th pick. Using Bob McKenzie's rankings, where he has Greentree at @17 and Hage at #36 leads me to state the Wings can draft Greentree at 15. I think we can agree that, according to Mr. Bob McKenzie, he will be available. That gets the one player into the system.

MR. McKENZIE has Hage ranked at 36. (See below for elite prospect rankings whereby they reference Bob's picks.)

Do you take the #47 pick and Berggren for the #36?

Liam Greentree - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Liam Greentree, 2006-01-01 Oshawa, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the undefined with Windsor Spitfires. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Michael Hage - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Michael Hage, 2006-04-14 Mississauga, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the undefined with Chicago Steel. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Hage wont be there at 36 but for the sake of argument I'd rather deal a 2026 2nd to move up to accomplish your wet dream lol

Unlike some ppl I dont believe berggren is garbage and I'm not giving him up to move up 10 spots in the 2nd round

 

[Hawaiibros]

Give me Cole Eiserman. This team needs a goal scorer and that’s Cole. He’s one of the youngest guys in the draft (17!!!) and while he has his flaws, they are easily fixable and that shot/speed/hands/IQ combo is something that the wings don’t have and probably won’t have the chance to get ever again. Go up and get him!

 

[letsgowings9999]

Why?

If that RHD turns into an elite player, don't you want elite talent?

We need elite forwards . I'm good with seider and pelikka on the right side + gibson,johansson,tuomisto in the pipeline .. trades and free agency

Unless pelikka tanks I'm not worried atm and would prefer taking a swing at talent and not a sure nhler who ends up a bottom 6 forward. Rather take a swing at Connelly even though he took that dumb penalty than a dman

 

[DanielMarois]

I have a feeling Cole Eiserman will be there at 15, much like another Cole (Caufield) was for MTL because they are/were perceived to be one-dimensional smallish players.

 

[Rolo Tomassi]

That’s definitely a bold take. I think he has interesting upside, I also think there is a pretty wide range of outcomes for what he could be.

It makes me wonder a decent amount why someone with his size and touted skill level wasn’t able to hit the box score more.

Ive actually got similar feelings regarding Sennecke. Mostly relying on limited game viewings, clips, and scout takes. So take that with a grain of salt.

I would love to get some potentially explosive offensive players in the pipeline, that and size and toughness are the biggest things we lack amongst the forward group.

 

[lilidk]

Give me Cole Eiserman. This team needs a goal scorer and that’s Cole. He’s one of the youngest guys in the draft (17!!!) and while he has his flaws, they are easily fixable and that shot/speed/hands/IQ combo is something that the wings don’t have and probably won’t have the chance to get ever again. Go up and get him!

Yzerman likes to draft older, sometimes overages

 

[Gniwder]

McKenzie does not even rank the prospects…and he doesn’t claim to either.
He compiles a list based off a bunch of real NHL scouts who give him their opinion/rankings.

That is also a reference to a mid term list. The recent list was only top 15.

I don't follow him, but whatever his method of compiling rankings sucks balls. Hage is going well before 36. He may very well wind up on the Wings.

 

[Crunchy]

Sennecke's hype appears to be blowing well past detroits draft position if the main board is any indicator.

With the later pick and run at the playoffs, we as a fanbase appear to be behind on the draft meta this year.

 

[Gniwder]

Yzerman likes to draft older, sometimes overages

Not in the first round. I certainly won't be surprised by an overager in the 3rd or later, like Mazur.

 

[Astyanax]

Seen a few people on Twitter saying it. Idk if it's true or not?

The rule was you can only move up!!!, 2x in a 5 year period, so I think Chicago is eligable for the next 5. They won the lottery last year, but they were also the worst? Not sure. But l think they stayed where they belonged each time, as opposed to our wings.

 

[jkutswings]

Agreed. High end prospects don't have to fill a positional need, they just need to be high end prospects.

Fair. But I think we have very different definitions of high end. Barring a very surprising fall, I see a lot of second line forwards on the board. Which are useful, but not what I would call high end.

 

[Astyanax]

Yzerman likes to draft older, sometimes overages

But not on the first.

 

[Snuggs]

I'm really cool with the Eiserman pick if he's available. Idk about trading up, etc, just play the cards we're dealt, if anything trade down or trade the pick.

Eiserman pick and letting him play in BC is fine. Be a good move and allow the kid to grow up, literally, before playing against other full grow prime aged men. 2 years and a degree would do him well. He's too use to playing kids his age. Next year is going to be a physical wake up call for him.

I really hope Chicago does take Demidov, Cayden Lindstrom is the perfect prospect for me(Chris Krieder like). I don't want to see him as a Blackhawk, Size, Skating, Skill.

 

[Konnan511]

Go European first round or NCAA committed prospect.

 

[lilidk]

But not on the first.

Danielson

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I have a feeling Cole Eiserman will be there at 15, much like another Cole (Caufield) was for MTL because they are/were perceived to be one-dimensional smallish players.

No chance.