2023 March top 16 mock draft

[MasterMatt25]

Ran a lottery simulator to determine

This is NOT how I would rank the players, it's just what I think the teams would do in this situation.

1. selects Connor Bedard, C (Regina - WHL)
2. selects Adam Fantilli, C (University of Michigan - NCAA)
3. selects Leo Carlsson, C (Orebro - SHL)
4. selects Will Smith, C (USNDP - USHL)
5. selects Matvei Michkov, RW (Sochi - KHL)
6. selects Zach Benson, LW (Winnipeg - WHL)
7. selects Matthew Wood, RW (University of Connecticut - NCAA)
8. selects Oliver Moore, C (USNDP - USHL)
9. selects Brayden Yager, C (Moose Jaw - WHL)
10. selects Eduard Sale, LW (Brno - Czech)
11. selects Axel Sandin Pellikka, D (Skelleftea - SHL)
12. selects Colby Barlow, LW (Owen Sound - OHL)
13. selects Ryan Leonard, C (USNDP - USHL)
14. selects David Reinbacher, D (Kloten - NL)
15. selects Dalibor Dvorsky, C (AIK - Allsvenskan)
16. selects Samuel Honzek, LW (Vancouver - WHL)

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[Rolo Tomassi]

I think Detroit may be happy with this result. But what do I know…

 

[ManByng]

I think Montreal may be happy with this result. But what do I know...

 

[MasterMatt25]

I think Arizona may be happy with this result. But what do I know...

 

[RedWingzz]

I think Columbus may be happy with this result. But what do I know...

 

[Czechboy]

Ran a lottery simulator to determine

This is NOT how I would rank the players, it's just what I think the teams would do in this situation.

1. selects Connor Bedard, C (Regina - WHL)
2. selects Adam Fantilli, C (University of Michigan - NCAA)
3. selects Leo Carlsson, C (Orebro - SHL)
4. selects Will Smith, C (USNDP - USHL)
5. selects Matvei Michkov, RW (Sochi - KHL)
6. selects Zach Benson, LW (Winnipeg - WHL)
7. selects Matthew Wood, RW (University of Connecticut - NCAA)
8. selects Oliver Moore, C (USNDP - USHL)
9. selects Brayden Yager, C (Moose Jaw - WHL)
10. selects Eduard Sale, LW (Brno - Czech)
11. selects Axel Sandin Pellikka, D (Skelleftea - SHL)
12. selects Colby Barlow, LW (Owen Sound - OHL)
13. selects Ryan Leonard, C (USNDP - USHL)
14. selects David Reinbacher, D (Kloten - NL)
15. selects Dalibor Dvorsky, C (AIK - Allsvenskan)
16. selects Samuel Honzek, LW (Vancouver - WHL)

I am getting the impression that Stevie Y will be avoiding Czechs in the future.lol

 

[lilidk]

I think Detroit may be happy with this result. But what do I know…

It's not what you or me think, it's what Yzerman thinks, very often he does surprise everyone

I am getting the impression that Stevie Y will be avoiding Czechs in the future.lol

Agree, we don't need guys like Pasternak or Jagr

 

[PattyLafontaine]

Sharks wil not pass on Michkov at 4. They may not pass on him at 3.

 

[Gecklund]

Sharks wil not pass on Michkov at 4. They may not pass on him at 3.

What about the Sharks makes you think they will take Michkov?

 

[WayneGretzky]

What about the Sharks makes you think they will take Michkov?

Logic…they need everything and Michkov is hands down the best player available at 4 if he’s still there.

 

[Gecklund]

Logic…they need everything and Michkov is hands down the best player available at 4 if he’s still there.

Grier has not acquired a single player under 6 foot or who doesn’t play a physical type of game. I’d be very surprised if he takes Michkov.

 

[WayneGretzky]

Grier has not acquired a single player under 6 foot or who doesn’t play a physical type of game. I’d be very surprised if he takes Michkov.

You’re using a few months of data with him being GM. He will undoubtedly take the best forward available, if he’s picking top 4, it will be one of Bedard/Fantilli/Michkov/Carlsson, zero chance they take Smith over one of these guys.

Also, Michkov at 4 would be a steal. He’s the consensus #2 if he wasn’t Russian, I could see Fantilli slipping in front, but I’d still take Michkov at 3, anything lower is a steal.

 

[Gecklund]

You’re using a few months of data with him being GM. He will undoubtedly take the best forward available, if he’s picking top 4, it will be one of Bedard/Fantilli/Michkov/Carlsson, zero chance they take Smith over one of these guys.

Also, Michkov at 4 would be a steal. He’s the consensus #2 if he wasn’t Russian, I could see Fantilli slipping in front, but I’d still take Michkov at 3, anything lower is a steal.

Yeah I just really disagree. You’re letting your personal thoughts cloud your judgement. I’m actually using data to show that Grier has not taken a guy like Michkov. Fantilli is a better prospect than Michkov and with Michkov’s situation, I easily take Carlsson over him too.

I like Michkov but you’re touting him to be some sure thing which he isn’t. He’s great with the puck on his stick, it’s off his stick where the issues are. Combine that with he can’t come over for 2-3 years (can’t remember what it is) and even then he can simply stay in Russia or get forced to stay in Russia. I wouldn’t take that risk before like 7.

 

[WayneGretzky]

Yeah I just really disagree. You’re letting your personal thoughts cloud your judgement. I’m actually using data to show that Grier has not taken a guy like Michkov. Fantilli is a better prospect than Michkov and with Michkov’s situation, I easily take Carlsson over him too.

I like Michkov but you’re touting him to be some sure thing which he isn’t. He’s great with the puck on his stick, it’s off his stick where the issues are. Combine that with he can’t come over for 2-3 years (can’t remember what it is) and even then he can simply stay in Russia or get forced to stay in Russia. I wouldn’t take that risk before like 7.

Been scouting for 20 years, trust me, Michkov is a sure thing.

You trying to lean on data knowing Grier has had what, 1 draft under his belt? You sound like a fool. Not worthy of the conversation

 

[Gecklund]

Been scouting for 20 years, trust me, Michkov is a sure thing.

You trying to lean on data knowing Grier has had what, 1 draft under his belt? You sound like a fool. Not worthy of the conversation

“Trust me bro”

I’m leaning on data of the 1 year where Grier has acquired a ton of players. From most recent to least recent trades, Peterson, Henriksson, Thrun, Johnsson, Zetterlund, Okhotiuk, Shakir, Kaut, MacDonald, Lorentz, Makaniemi, Kunin. There’s 2 players there under 6 foot and one was a cap dump and both are 50 pounds heavier than Michkov.

Signings same thing: Ferraro, Kahkonen, Sturm, Lindblom, Nutivaara, Benning, Suess, Dell, Agozzino, Svechnikov, Harrington, Pouliot. 3 this time under 6 foot but 2 were signed as AHL players and the other is Ferraro and again all 3 50 pounds heavier.

Draft: Bystedt, Lund, Havelid, Fisher, Beaupit, Furlong, Muldowney, Laubach, Barnett. 3 there under 6 foot except 2 of them were 6th/7th round picks. All three weigh more than Michkov.

There is nothing about Grier that says he will take Michkov. Hell he wants to get rid of Labanc who obviously doesn’t have the potential that Michkov does but has the same sort of floater rep.

I’m not disagreeing that Michkov is a good prospect. I’m disagreeing that there’s any chance he ends up in SJ more than unreasonable hope.

 

[WayneGretzky]

Ridiculously limited data, you’re proving my point.

I don’t care who Grier takes, or whether or not you trust me, but I’m positive passing on Michkov at 4 would be a mistake, one I doubt he would make, Michkovs upside is being the greatest Sharks draft pick.

 

[Gecklund]

Ridiculously limited data, you’re proving my point.

I don’t care who Grier takes, or whether or not you trust me, but I’m positive passing on Michkov at 4 would be a mistake, one I doubt he would make, Michkovs upside is being the greatest Sharks draft pick.

33 players is limited data now because it disproves your opinion. Got it. Considering the Sharks drafted the NHL leader in games played, gonna take a whole lot to be that.

 

[WayneGretzky]

33 players is limited data now because it disproves your opinion. Got it. Considering the Sharks drafted the NHL leader in games played, gonna take a whole lot to be that.

You’re a lost cause. Of course it’s limited, one season of data. 33 guys, 4-6 of which could end up being NHLers, 0 of them would be top 15 picks this year, you’ve really made your point. Disproves nothing, proves you’re goof

Their current best isn’t even HOF caliber…doors wide open. Any of the top 4 this year have that upside.

 

[Gecklund]

You’re a lost cause. Of course it’s limited, one season of data. 33 guys, 4-6 of which could end up being NHLers, 0 of them would be top 15 picks this year, you’ve really made your point. Disproves nothing, proves you’re goof

Their current best isn’t even HOF caliber…doors wide open. Any of the top 4 this year have that upside.

Marleau isn’t HOF caliber? And I’m the lost cause?

 

[WayneGretzky]

Marleau isn’t HOF caliber? And I’m the lost cause?

If he gets in, it’ll be 5-10+ years from now, and will be on games alone. He’s never made an All-Star Team (not All-Star Game selections), won any major individual hardware, or won a Stanley Cup. PPG player in 3 of his 24 seasons You sound like a big fan.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Logic…they need everything and Michkov is hands down the best player available at 4 if he’s still there.

I think Michkov is the 2nd best prospect in the draft behind Bedard. But size + Russia factored in, and San Jose not getting a top-quality piece like Holtz for Meier? I'd be shocked if they took him no matter how good he is

 

[WayneGretzky]

I think Michkov is the 2nd best prospect in the draft behind Bedard. But size + Russia factored in, and San Jose not getting a top-quality piece like Holtz for Meier? I'd be shocked if they took him no matter how good he is

I’ve heard SJ didn’t want Holtz because they see deficiencies in his game, I don’t blame them.

SJ has the emptiest cupboards in the league, I understand if they go with one of the other top 4 guys if it’s an option, but the conversation is around them passing on Michkov at 4 for a guy like Smith. Wouldn’t happen, in that situation, a team like SJ can’t afford to pass on the sure star, potential superstar in Michkov. If they do, Griers term will be short.

 

[MasterMatt25]

I’ve heard SJ didn’t want Holtz because they see deficiencies in his game, I don’t blame them.

SJ has the emptiest cupboards in the league, I understand if they go with one of the other top 4 guys if it’s an option, but the conversation is around them passing on Michkov at 4 for a guy like Smith. Wouldn’t happen, in that situation, a team like SJ can’t afford to pass on the sure star, potential superstar in Michkov. If they do, Griers term will be short.

I suspect it will be short then. I don't see San Jose taking that chance

 

[WayneGretzky]

I suspect it will be short then. I don't see San Jose taking that chance

I think SJ will get a top 3 pick anyway, but if they end up with the 4th pick I look forward to revisiting this

 

[AintLifeGrand]

awful for Nashville