Prospect Info: 2023 Ducks Prospect Rankings #7
- Thread starter MMC
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Hinds - Gaucher - Pastujov - Hvidston should be the next few spots in my opinion. Especially Hvidston is really being slept on around here.
To me Hvidston is the best F prospect outside of Leo. The trajectory and versatility is really something for him. I might put Myatovic next one up after him albeit not sure now.
This one Hinds for me and I'll think about what's the next pick for me whether it's Hvid (likely) or someone else. Generally, I'm high on Moore but probably he's not my next pick.
Bleak
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60pt well rounded Wing. Once he fills out his 6’3 frame he could be a wrecking ball. Plays with an underrated edge.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him become a stalwart defensive top-6 winger, but think realistically he could be an awesome third-line winger in the mold of Samuel Pahlsson.
Proud to say I do own his game-worn and signed white jersey from Swift Current from his Draft season 2021-22.
AngelDuck
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And our forward depth is pretty weak. But at least our top 9 at the NHL level looks better
If McTavish didn't make the jump to the NHL he would be a top 10 prospect in the league.
It's a lot easier to stomach having a below average forward group when you have a 22 year old and 20 year old in your top 6.
And it’s not like Terry is that old either. Our forward depth prospect wise doesn’t look strong, but our young forward core is I’m sure envied by a majority of the league.
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Two-way middle-6 LW.
Point-wise it's hard to say, I can see him topping out anywhere from 30-70 points. He was always praises about his defensive work but only last season he started to show offense.
Great pass and goes to the net.
He also plays with an edge. He is like a less skilled but more physical version of Terry to me. Unfilled frame, super young (he's still 18 for a couple of months), smart, skates good and nice hands. We are only starting to see his potential but it's there IMO, which makes me see him as our 2nd best forward prospect. He's just further away but I think he has clearly more offense than Gaucher and he's a much safer pick as a versatile (can play any situation) player than Pasta.
AngelDuck
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Fair. I still firmly believe there is a big need for a winger prospect with high upside in this system but I suspect that will be landed at next years draft
Sean Garrity
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How people rate this is all subjective. Some prefer the "safer" player with a solid floor but maybe lower ceiling, and some people prefer the high ceiling player. It's what makes this fun. I was between Hinds, Gaucher, Hvidston, and Helleson here. Those are my next 4, in whatever order I feel like when I log on lol. Also probably goes in to I've seen more of them 4 than say a Myatovic. In short, my opinion is subjective, depends on the time of day and overall useless
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The Midnight Burrito
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Double TKO there. Good on him for taking back the initiative in that fight but I hate to see kids bashing each other's brains out.
The Midnight Burrito
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Anyway, it's Gaucher for me here. I think he and Hinds are both dark horses to make the team out of camp this year although Hinds probably has the easier path.
Hockey Duckie
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How people rate this is all subjective. Some prefer the "safer" player with a solid floor but maybe lower ceiling, and some people prefer the high ceiling player. It's what makes this fun. I was between Hinds, Gaucher, Hvidston, and Helleson here. Those are my next 4, in whatever order I feel like when I log on lol. Also probably goes in to I've seen more of them 4 than say a Myatovic. In short, my opinion is subjective, depends on the time of day and overall useless
Yep. Outside of top-end prospects, other prospects move around. It's still fun to help kill time until the rookie tourney comes around. Plus, it does help shed light on those other prospects if we're not too aware of them.
Just for reference on the subject of Hvidston, He is less then 3 months older then Myatovic who was the #33 overall this year.
He had more points, in less games, and plays a better defensive game based on reports. Hvidston would have likely been a 1st rounder this year if he was 5 days younger. Super underrated.
He had more points, in less games, and plays a better defensive game based on reports. Hvidston would have likely been a 1st rounder this year if he was 5 days younger. Super underrated.
Vinegar Strokes
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Voted Hinds but I’m starting to get tempted with Siderov. He’s a tough one to rank since he’s a 3rd rounder who was passed up in his original draft year but based on his skill set and his numbers he may have way more upside than any other forward prospect we have, if he hits.
Hockey Duckie
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Gaucher is set to be a 3/4C in the future. His production was incrementally better in his D+1 season, but was a leader on the as a shutdown center. IMO, Gaucher still gives off BO Groulx vibes with similar junior production. No point rushing Gaucher to the NHL b/c we kinda seen that with Groulx's first callup into the NHL.
Asst GM Madden described LW Myatovic as "he's an elite support player, somebody who can get pucks for first and second line players. " That makes Myatovic's projection as a top-6 player. Myatovic has a huge jump in goal scoring this year along with being even better in his defensive game.
I think Hvidston might also fit into that "elite support player" for the top-6. Hvidston was drafted as a shutdown forward, but he had the huge jump in his offensive production this past season. Hvidston will turn 19 in Sept. Myatovic will turn 19 in Dec.
| Ducks | Prospects | ||||||||
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| Player | Season | League | Games | G | A | Pts | PPG | Plus/Minus | |
| Gaucher | D-1 | QMJHL | 30 | 14 | 17 | 31 | 1.03 | 6 | |
| D+0 | QMJHL | 66 | 31 | 26 | 57 | 0.86 | 30 | ||
| D+1 | QMJHL | 44 | 22 | 24 | 46 | 1.05 | 35 | ||
| Hvidston | D-1 | SMAAHL | 7 | 6 | 6 | 12 | 1.71 | n/a | |
| D+0 | WHL | 58 | 13 | 19 | 32 | 0.55 | -5 | ||
| D+1 | WHL | 59 | 21 | 44 | 65 | 1.10 | 15 | ||
| Myatovic | D-1 | WHL | 67 | 4 | 24 | 28 | 0.42 | 11 | |
| D+0 | WHL | 68 | 30 | 30 | 60 | 0.88 | 43 |
How one ranks each prospect varies from high potential to NHL projection to NHL-readiness. A case can be made for all three defensive forwards to be ranked 8th in the next poll, seeing as Hinds' lead is more than doubled Gaucher's tally.
Lost in the mix are our offensive forwards: Tracey, Perreault, Pastujov, and Kukkonen. Despite taking a step backwards in San Diego, Tracey still finished 7th in team scoring on a very terrible Gulls team. Perreault took a bigger step backwards, but some of that factor could be due to him being oft injured last year as he played only 48 out of 72 games. Pastujov's offense just keeps improving and improving, with a scoring rate of 1.72 with his new team, Sarnia! Kukkonen is a goal scorer at the NCAA level, tying for 5th overall in the NCAA for freshman with 18 goals.
The big fear with offensive forwards is if they can't produce at a top-6 pro level, then they might be useless. There's a bigger bust factor for offensive forwards drafted outside the top-10 because if they cannot contribute enough offense to coverup their lack of defensive play, then they won't have an NHL roster spot. Zegras is an offensive top-10 drafted forward who still needs to learn how to play a 200 ft game, but his offense more than justifies an NHL roster spot. Tracey and Perreault's journey to the NHL looks bleak. That could be a significant factor in avoiding putting Pastujov up earlier in the draft.
TheGoodShepard1
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If we're throwing forwards out there, I'm a big Kyle Kukkonen guy. Michigan Tech might not be facing the true cream of the crop, but to walk into a pretty good program at 20 in your D+2 year and immediately lead the team in goals (18, 6 clear of the runner-up) is not an insignificant accomplishment. He'll probably slot in somewhere in the lower teens with the chance to rocket up this list this time next year.
Hockey Duckie
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Sidorov feels like a clone of Pastujov. They both can score like crazy, both need to improve their skating, and both drafted in the third round. THW wrote that Sidorov has competitiveness issues. Both are the same age, but I think Pastujov is still the better scorer.
2022-23 productions for Sidorov and Pastujov
Sidorov: 76 points in 53 games
Pastujov:
Storm (original team): 19 points in 14 games
Sting (traded team): 79 points in 46 games
Hockey Duckie
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He finished tied for 5th overall for goal scoring freshmen in the NCAA, according to college hockey news site. (Their multifunction sort stat didn't work for me. Just select goals column and then do a "ctrl + f" search for "fr" for freshman.)
Hockey Duckie
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If Hinds does win the #7 spot, then that's significant jump from the previous Prospect ranking.
2022 Prospect Ranking: 20th
2021 Prospect Ranking: 20th (first year eligible)
2022 Prospect Ranking: 20th
2021 Prospect Ranking: 20th (first year eligible)
