2023-24 Roster Thread #9: Spring time is upon us

[GKJ]

The Flyers have a $245K bonus overage subtracted from next year's cap as well

 

[mouser]

CapFriendly is reporting the Flyers will have $245k dead cap in 2024-25 due to performance bonus overages.

Looks to me like the two sources are:
- Bobby Brink $212.5k - Finished top 3 among forwards in +/-
- Simon Ersson $32.5k - Games played, plus anothers

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

The Flyers have a $245K bonus overage subtracted from next year's cap as well

Like every other team that has bunch of dead cap space on ltir.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Top 3 in +/-. What a league.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I’m kinda torn on this one, two schools of thought:

1. Is there a cheap backup out there at half the price this summer, that possibly could be just as good? Maybe.

And if there is - I would rather them use that 1.75M or whatever you would save by not signing Fedotov to be a 3rd party broker in a trade

2. Goalie tandem is under $5M combined next year and thats good for me

I’d probably rather them not spend 3M+ on him, but I don’t think it’s too bad

 

[Curufinwe]

It's good if he's good and bad if he's bad, but it doesn't really matter either way with Torts still here.

 

[ponder719]

1. Is there a cheap backup out there at half the price this summer, that possibly could be just as good? Maybe.

And if there is - I would rather them use that 1.75M or whatever you would save by not signing Fedotov to be a 3rd party broker in a trade

Looking at who's going to be available this summer? No, the goalie market is butts this year. Samsonov, Stolarz, Brossoit, Talbot, Driedger, Nedeljkovic, and Martin Jones are probably the top names, and I'm not sure I'm willing to try and beat other goalie-needy teams to any of them. Honestly, if we're to free up cap to serve as a broker, we'd be better served trying to move a bigger name, get some cheap assets in return, and then use the cap space thereafter.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Looking at who's going to be available this summer? No, the goalie market is butts this year. Samsonov, Stolarz, Brossoit, Talbot, Driedger, Nedeljkovic, and Martin Jones are probably the top names, and I'm not sure I'm willing to try and beat other goalie-needy teams to any of them. Honestly, if we're to free up cap to serve as a broker, we'd be better served trying to move a bigger name, get some cheap assets in return, and then use the cap space thereafter.

That’s fair

 

[ValeriKamensky]

Well you can’t fill your top6 with “modern progressive skill 5’10/165 no-dinosaurs” and get through THIS, just for example

 

[Nizzle]

Kimmo just said it's still a mystery to him who makes the decisions in the organization. He specifically named Briere, Tortorella, and Jones.

 

[trostol]

Kimmo just said it's still a mystery to him who makes the decisions in the organization. He specifically named Briere, Tortorella, and Jones.

because even they do not honestly know lol

 

[TheKingPin]

Anyone see the Beckham thing on Netflix? It seems there are many coaches like Torts. They don’t seem to understand the players play the games.

 

[BritainStix]

Anyone see the Beckham thing on Netflix? It seems there are many coaches like Torts. They don’t seem to understand the players play the games.

As in David Beckham? You can't have just compared Torts to Fergie.

 

[Curufinwe]

The Flyers have a $245K bonus overage subtracted from next year's cap as well

I forgot about Brink. I would guess he gets 2 x $1.5m like Tippett did.

 

[DancingPanther]

Kimmo just said it's still a mystery to him who makes the decisions in the organization. He specifically named Briere, Tortorella, and Jones.

Once again Kimmo for GM

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Once again Kimmo for GM

then you will whine about anther ex flyers taking over. they need a complete engine flush. clean slate all around. let them all go build your management team from the ground up.

 

[dragonoffrost]

then you will whine about anther ex flyers taking over. they need a complete engine flush. clean slate all around. let them all go build your management team from the ground up.

Kimmo if given the reins with no meddling from the ancestors would be a breath of fresh air. His views always seem to be what this team should do but doesn't

 

[Curufinwe]

Start Kimmo off as PP coach. Get Tortorella's useless pet the hell out of the organization.

 

[orangey]

Start Kimmo off as PP coach. Get Tortorella's useless pet the hell out of the organization.

Kimmo is enjoying retirement too much and I don't blame him. Maybe he'd like a front office role but I don't see him as the coaching type. Assistant GM? If he feels like traveling and looking at prospects. He's probably looking at Briere and saying, hey I can just step right into being a GM with little to no experience... and I guess he'd have a point there.

 

[Curufinwe]

I think one of the things making his retirement less fun is watching the god awful Flyers PP.

 

[Curufinwe]

With Atkinson bought out they could get just under the cap with this 22 man roster without having to put the two broken Ryans on LTIR right away.

Atkinson bought out - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Create your own team. Trade, sign, recall, reassign, and buyout players as though you were your favourite teams general manager.

www.capfriendly.com

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$87,700,000	$87,620,595	$245,000	$32,500	$79,405

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000
Foerster, Tyson $863,333	Frost, Morgan $2,100,000	Tippett, Owen $6,200,000
Lycksell, Olle $787,500	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000	Brink, Bobby $1,400,000
Cates, Noah $2,625,000	Poehling, Ryan $1,900,000	Hathaway, Garnet $2,375,000
Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000	York, Cam $1,600,000	Ersson, Samuel $1,450,000
Seeler, Nick $2,700,000	Drysdale, Jamie $2,300,000	Fedotov, Ivan $3,275,000
Andrae, Emil $903,333 ( $32,500)	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000
Attard, Ronnie $850,000

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000
	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000

 

[trostol]

i still don't see how they are so close to the cap lol

 

[Beef Invictus]

then you will whine about anther ex flyers taking over. they need a complete engine flush. clean slate all around. let them all go build your management team from the ground up.

I've been banging this drum for years, but I think Comcast is too cowardly to do this. I think the best we can get is a purge of the current set (I am sure Hanrahan will somehow survive) aside from Clarke, and Timonen being brought in. Timonen, per what he says (whatever it's worth), is wildly different in approach to what is there. Bringing in a wildly different Flyer is probably the best we can hope for, unfortunately.

Eh, being real, they'll never get rid of any of them. Maybe they hire Timonen as a mandate from on high, and then he's undermined completely and run out of town. Flyers Hockey!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Timonen has talked non glowingly about the Organization. He's disqualified from being considered already.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I've been banging this drum for years, but I think Comcast is too cowardly to do this. I think the best we can get is a purge of the current set (I am sure Hanrahan will somehow survive) aside from Clarke, and Timonen being brought in. Timonen, per what he says (whatever it's worth), is wildly different in approach to what is there. Bringing in a wildly different Flyer is probably the best we can hope for, unfortunately.

Eh, being real, they'll never get rid of any of them. Maybe they hire Timonen as a mandate from on high, and then he's undermined completely and run out of town. Flyers Hockey!

I am not sure they are cowards I think imo it is they really do not care as long as not losing money or a lot of it as this just a toy and way down on important things under the Comcast umbrella.

agree in bold