The fact that he was with illness for so long, verbeek has an out to tell him “ hey you missed a lot of development time and I wanted to bring you to the big club right away next season but I think you should marinate first” given the illness. Luneau would definitely understand that. If verbeek does indeed feel that way. Big if though. He loves Luneau
Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II
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duxfan1101
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Konecny would be perfect, but he only has 1 year left on his deal.
DavidBL
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Montour is exactly not the type of D we need.
He's also on the smaller side isn't he?
duxfan1101
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He is, but he's very physically engaged and plays bigger than he is. None of the top RH RW targets (Marchessault, Stamkos, Reinhart, Lindholm, Toffoli, Arvidsson, etc.) are particularly big, unless Necas is a legitimate option.
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SmokeyDuck
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Some team will pick him up and he will be 20-20 for them that very season lol.
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Masch78
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It is more of how you play than how high you stand. Franky being the best example.
DavidBL
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That's fair, I've just never really thought about Marchy as a physically imposing player. If he's closer to Beach than he is to Terry I'm good with that.
Hockey Duckie
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Verbeek did state that he's done "rebuilding" and we're supposedly in the "building" stage that we shouldn't be in the TDL sale again.
If we view that all Verbeek is doing is replacing a top-6F and a top-4RD who we lost at the TDL in Rico and Lyubushkin, then it's not a far stretch of a high possibility of acquiring those players. Question is are those two new players short term, mid-term, or long term players?
Hopefully, if Verbeek does add a top-6 RW and top-4RD, then they will be as good or better than Rico along with being better than Lyubushkin.
I personally think we're a year too early b/c we're still figuring out who our team is and is not. Carlsson didn't have that breakout season like Z did in his official rookie season. We have a lot of young d-men and we still don't know if there's a top-pairing in the group. Also, we are already adding Cutter to the top-6 next year and might bury Colangelo from reaching the NHL level.
It just feels all awkward with speeding up the whole process this past season for the youths that we might be burying some of the youths this year.
Ducksforcup
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I see what you are saying, but I don't think it's the worst thing to have some healthy competition. It forces the cream to rise to the top so to speak. I think inevitably some of the young players will be traded.
duxfan1101
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What do people think of Jake Evans? We could really use a right handed 4C that can win faceoffs and kill penalties (Stenlund and Carrick are UFA options to fit this role). Evans has 1 more year on his deal and I can’t imagine he would be expensive to acquire. Maybe we swap one of Lundestrom or Jones for him?
DavidBL
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I was thinking Lundestrom for Eller and Stenlund or Carrick for 4RW.
duxfan1101
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I don't mind that idea, but I will admit that 2 of Eller, Stenlund, and Carrick will make our 4th line pretty slow.
DavidBL
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That is fair. I never really thought of Carrick as slow. But the other 2 I'm not as familiar with their skating. Accari could be interesting too.
Anaheim4ever
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It didn't help Lundestrom that Murray 'may' have drafted him because he was a Center who defensively good enough (high floor low ceiling) to play games straight into the NHL to fill in while Kesler was recovering. Madden is quoted is as saying that they've been very successful when they pick 'their guy' meaning some picks were more on the GM. Murray rushed Lundestrom instead of letting him marinate in SHL/AHL.
I remember it being said at the time of his draft that Lundestrom was the most likely pick outside of the top 10 to go straight to the NHL given his high floor. I wonder if Verbeek will move on from him because he now has his own 'high floor' Center prospect in Gaucher.
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Hockey Duckie
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Murray rushed not only Lundy, but Steel as well. The reason behind that was the mass injuries to our center depth. I recall Getz and Kelser not there at times at the beginning of the season, which is how Lundy and Steel got their call ups. Lundy's defense was so advanced that he lasted longer than Steel to start the season.
Kesler's injury problem started after the 2016-17 season, where we went to the Conference Finals. Conflate that injury with F Eaves' health injury, after signing a 3-year extension and our talent level dropped faster than we can develop youths.
I think our coaching staff sees Lundy as our defensive stalwart. We did try him out at LW during COVD season, but injuries to our center depth happened again and Lundy proved his worth at center. This past year, we've cycled him from center to wing throughout the season.
Maybe it's a psychological thing for Lundy b/c when he was playing in Sweden, his offense shined each time he went back. During COVID season, before the NHL season started up again, Lundy scored 5g + 6a = 11 pts in 12 HockeyAllsvenskan games! (Swedish 2nd men's tier).
As for Gaucher, Verbeek said he's still a couple of years away.
