Olympics: 2022 Predictions for the Mid-Majors (AUT,BLR,DEN,FRA,GER,KAZ,LAT,NOR,SLO)

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  1. BalticWarrior

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    Your genetic knowledge is lacking. Genetically speaking we have nothing to do with East Asians, like we are very far apart if you use things like SNP clustering to determine genetic clusters/similiarities between ethnic groups. Your claim that Latvians mature later physically than other Europeans has no basis in scientific evidence.
     
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    I wanted to ask about Fontaine, but forgot. He is in no way a passport switcher, no idea why Kabidjan mentioned him.
     
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    Sorry, what?
     
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    About a half of Latvian males are the descendants of an East Asian population that went on a Westwards migration route during the Late Paleolithic and ended up at the Eastern shores of the Baltic Sea about 8k to 10k years ago.

    Genetic Evidence of an East Asian Origin and Paleolithic Northward Migration of Y-chromosome Haplogroup N

    Is this news to you?
     
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    It was an attempt at a joke that apparently did not go through, so it failed. I was just suggesting they might naturalize another athlete.
     
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    10 000 years means the groups(genetic clusters) have been seperated in time and geographic location, thus producing different phenotypes thus your hypothesis doesnt work. We are not similiar to East asians at all. We have different SNPs and we express different genes.
     
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    No, actually it was good, it's just me hardly understanding sly humor in English yet.
     
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    France

    Who's in their prime :
    Malo Ville (Mestis, like his brother Gabin next year), Tim Bozon (NLA), Kevin Spinozzi (AHL/ECHL)

    Who's on their way up : Justin Addamo (NAHL, like Boudon), Sacha Guillemain (NAHL, same), Hugo Proux (Elite Jr A, similar stats to Bougro)
     
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    Actually, there are shared phenotypical traits between Baltic populations and East Asian ones. Distinct neoteny, including rounder faces, snub noses, etc. Number of roots in teeth (3 roots per each wisdom tooth, f.e.), other dental features, prevalence of Asian-specific medical issues (Hashimoto's disease), etc.

    We're not East Asian, but we do have shared traits, including reaching puberty later than most Europeans.
     
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    I could not find a reputable source for any of these claims(numbers of roots,Hashimotos being more prevalent than in other European countries or having delayed pubert compared to other Europeans)
    Mind sharing peer-reviewed journals to source these claims?
     
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    What the ****ing point? There a high likelihood NHL goes to China so this team will just get murdered 20:0 by literally everyone.
     
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    GK and D are up, and it's... well, worrisome.
    Defense
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    Do you honestly think you're going to find a peer-reviewed research paper on the number of roots in the wisdom teeth of Latvian males in a population genetics perspective? You're not. There's very little research done on any general topic related to population genetics in Latvia. Especially in historical/genealogy-related matters. What I would suggest is to read up on dental differences between ethnic groups and go talk to your dentist. Do some research on your own.

    There's quite a lot of info on stuff related to the onset puberty, though. It's got a lot to do with a whole array of environmental factors, urban vs. rural, poor vs. rich and your other typical dichotomies. That's self-explanatory and you have to take it into account.

    I was also a little vague and misleading when using the term 'East Asian'. It's North Asians (many of whom are carriers of Y-DNA haplogroup N) that have a distinctly delayed onset of puberty. It descended in East Asia, but dispersed mostly throughout Northern Eurasia. Once again, you're probably not going to find anything about ethnic Latvians, so try using Estonians, Finns, etc., as a proxy instead.
     
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    Your very last sentence is exatly where your whole premise falls. If we assume Finns as proxy, we should be seeing these same patterns of puberty in Finns and yet Finnish kids are ripping up the NHL(just look at Laine and Aho for god sake). How come?
     
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    Finally China's Olympics spots got truly relevant to our little genetics thread.
     
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    Thanks! Updated. What is the situation with Spinozzi and joining the National Team though? Why has he never done it?
     
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    Jesus Christ.

    Age at their peak. Does not imply they're **** at 20. They peak later is what it means.

    And it's a ****ing average, it doesn't apply to every individual.
     
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    Thats even more illogical. MOST hockey players peak at the age of 25-26 (including Latvians and Finns) and statistically regress afterwards. Our guys arent having best seasons when they hit 30. Take Dārziņš as an example- the best season he in KHL was at the age of 26 after that he has streadily declined and you will see this pattern repeat itself in all of our players.
     
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    If what you say is true, then playing the Latvian U-20 team would be like playing their U-18 team. Playing their U-18 team would be like playing their U-17 or U-16 team. They would be floundering around with the likes of Ukraine and Poland (or worse).
     
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    They'll be bad.
     
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    Despite our slight disagreements about some certain countries, this is really solid analysis. All that said, I hope that Belarus and Kazakhstan somehow starts breaking their superior prospects into pro hockey sooner rather than later and is being perceived above Slovenia also in your book.
     
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    You might have to check out STORMFRONT
     
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    Great job.
    Denmark/Jokerit prospect Lucas Anderson is actually Lucas Andersen. Same for Asger Peterson > Petersen
     
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    This is a super cool write-up, thanks for taking the time and research to do it.
     
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