GDT: 2022 NHL Draft: Round 1, Thursday 07/07 on ESPN @ 4:00 PM PST. Rounds 2-7, Friday 07/08 on NHL Network @ 8 AM PST

[Fistfullofbeer]

Let the fun begin.

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[Fistfullofbeer]

So what are the odds that we use one of our own 2nd + another 2nd to get an additional pick in the 1st round?

 

[The Marquis]

That would rule. I’ll be at the draft party at the iceplex tonight, at least for a little while.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

So what are the odds that we use one of our own 2nd + another 2nd to get an additional pick in the 1st round?

I wouldn't mind that.

Like Francis said himself, you don't really want to make all those selections and 12 prospects in one draft class are too much anyways, IMO.

 

[NiagaraKraken]

Let’s go! Will be happy with whoever they select!

 

[RainyCityHockey]

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Alison Lukan with Emily Kaplan talking about the draft.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Heads up! If we go off-board I will need Lukan and you folks to walk me off the ledge.

Just kidding ...

... kind of.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

OK, so let's get real.

Who dou you think we'll draft at #4?
Or do you think we'll even trade down?

Also, do you think we'll add another first round pick?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

OK, so let's get real.

Who dou you think we'll draft at #4?
Or do you think we'll even trade down?

Also, do you think we'll add another first round pick?

I have no idea anymore because there is no guarantee who goes ahead of us. I think we go with one of Wright, Cooley or Nemec at 4 if available. If all 3 are gone, all bets are off. I hope I am wrong but I feel like we don't pick Slaf even if he drops to us. We may just drop down a few spots and pick one of Nazar, Gauthier or Jiricek at 6.

If we do drop back, I definitely see us grabbing another late 1st round pick. If not, I can still see us use our own 2nd + another 2nd (2022/23) + 4th (2022/23) to move up a few spots into the late 1st round.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Talking about trading back.

How about #4 + X for #7 + Kirby Dach?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Talking about trading back.

How about #4 + X for #7 + Kirby Dach?

I think that X is going to be more than what we would want to give up.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

I think that X is going to be more than what we would want to give up.

Yeah, most likely.

Though, I hope Francis does something and adds another first rounder given that you can't make all those selections in one year.

 

[HoseEmDown]

So what are the odds that we use one of our own 2nd + another 2nd to get an additional pick in the 1st round?

Tampa is looking to trade back possibly but not sure 31 for 35 + 58/61 is great value?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Yeah, most likely.

Though, I hope Francis does something and adds another first rounder given that you can't make all those selections in one year.

Yeah. I hope so too. It would help accelerate the rebuild. Assuming we finish in the 7-10 range next year, how many spots do we move up if we trade #35 (this year) + 2nd 2023 (39-42) range? Plus maybe another 2nd round pick we have accrued? Early 20's? Late teens?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Tampa is looking to trade back possibly but not sure 31 for 35 + 58/61 is great value?

Yeah. I would think that would get it done.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Tampa is looking to trade back possibly but not sure 31 for 35 + 58/61 is great value?

I wouldn't give up another 2nd rounder just to move up four spots.

It would be more like #49 + #58/#61 which also seems to fit more to previous years looking at value of draft picks.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I wouldn't give up another 2nd rounder just to move up four spots.

It would be more like #49 + #58/#61 which also seems to fit more to previous years looking at value of draft picks.

Where has 49 + 58/61 moved you into the first round? No way a team moves back 18 spots for a late 2nd. That 49 needs to be much closer to 40 than 50.

I wouldn't give up another 2nd rounder just to move up four spots.

It would be more like #49 + #58/#61 which also seems to fit more to previous years looking at value of draft picks.

Where has 49 + 58/61 moved you into the first round? No way a team moves back 18 spots for a late 2nd. That 49 needs to be much closer to 40 than 50.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Where has 49 + 58/61 moved you into the first round? No way a team moves back 18 spots for a late 2nd. That 49 needs to be much closer to 40 than 50.



Where has 49 + 58/61 moved you into the first round? No way a team moves back 18 spots for a late 2nd. That 49 needs to be much closer to 40 than 50.

Then throw in a couple of 4th rounders if needed.

Overall I don't think giving up another 2nd rounder to move up those four spots is woth it.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Then throw in a couple of 4th rounders if needed.

Overall I don't think giving up another 2nd rounder to move up those four spots is woth it.

That's why I said what I did in the first post, don't see the benefit in it unless you really want someone. Plus throwing in 4th's isn't going to get it done.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Then throw in a couple of 4th rounders if needed.

Overall I don't think giving up another 2nd rounder to move up those four spots is woth it.

Depends on how the organization views the player. If for some reason a player really high on their board has dropped into the 20's the GM better do his due diligence and see what it would cost to move up from 35 up so that they can pick the player. They can then evaluate if it is 'worth' it or not.

I do agree with @HoseEmDown that it would cost us atleast 2 2nd's (including our own this year) to move up into the 1st round. Maybe even more. To me it's simply about quality vs quantity. If the player we are interested in is top-15 on our board, then sure do it. Heck even throw another 4th rounder in there.

Totally making this up but lets say Miroshnichenko (who has been anywhere from high teens to early 2nd round) drops to the mid 20's. I would absolutely move our own 2nd + another 2nd to grab him. Maybe even a 4th. Really depends on the quality.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Depends on how the organization views the player. If for some reason a player really high on their board has dropped into the 20's the GM better do his due diligence and see what it would cost to move up from 35 up so that they can pick the player. They can then evaluate if it is 'worth' it or not.

I do agree with @HoseEmDown that it would cost us atleast 2 2nd's (including our own this year) to move up into the 1st round. Maybe even more. To me it's simply about quality vs quantity. If the player we are interested in is top-15 on our board, then sure do it. Heck even throw another 4th rounder in there.

Totally making this up but lets say Miroshnichenko (who has been anywhere from high teens to early 2nd round) drops to the mid 20's. I would absolutely move our own 2nd + another 2nd to grab him. Maybe even a 4th. Really depends on the quality.

I wouldn't mind doing that for a player in the mid to later 20's but not for the 31st pick.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I wouldn't mind doing that for a player in the mid to later 20's but not for the 31st pick.

If you want say 25 it'll cost 35 + 49 most likely. Trading two top 50 picks for one seems risky when you have no real prospect pool yet. Moving 35 + 58 + a couple of 4th's is also a bit much right now. Unless you can somehow recoup some picks later. You should be trying to draft 10 kids this year.

 

[AarG]

I would be ecstatic to get one of Wright/Slaf/Cooley but i am fine with Nemec as well. Anything else and I'm disappointed (unless there is a trade happening).

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I can't wait to see if any team including us goes off-board based on what the rumors are.

Wright, Slaf, Cooley and Nemec are supposed to go top-4 in one order or the other.