Speculation: 2022 free agents

[rhef3]

I don't know but i feel after the 2022 draft, stevie is going to make some big splash signings

Lot's of interesting names are on the horizon in UFA land

Barkov
Hertl
Zibanejad
Gaudreu
Forsberg
Paryako
Rakell

It's early but next offseason I would think atleast 2 of those names test the waters, do you think Stevie opens up his wallet for some significant upgrades next season ? It looks like a good time to do it especially if Barkov hits the market.

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[Revenge of Gru]

I don't know but i feel after the 2022 draft, stevie is going to make some big splash signings

Lot's of interesting names are on the horizon in UFA land

Barkov
Hertl
Zibanejad
Gaudreu
Forsberg
Paryako
Rakell

It's early but next offseason I would think atleast 2 of those names test the waters, do you think Stevie opens up his wallet for some significant upgrades next season ? It looks like a good time to do it especially if Barkov hits the market.

When in his career has Yzerman ever made a big splash in free agency? I don't see it happening?

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Out of that list, I see maybe Hertl, Gaudreau, and Rakell are likely to be out there. Dunno if those guys are the targets I'd want. Think it's time to wade into the trade market more than UFA

 

[Henkka]

Out of that list, I see maybe Hertl, Gaudreau, and Rakell are likely to be out there. Dunno if those guys are the targets I'd want. Think it's time to wade into the trade market more than UFA

Only Hertl is really interesting. Others are wingers or will be re-signed on their current teams.

He is still quite young, 27, and could center those countrymen Czechs we already have, Vrana - Hertl - Zadina.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Barkov is 100% staying with Florida, Deal is pretty much done and they said it should be announced sometime next month. Would assume around training camp time.

 

[jaster]

Yzerman's never shown himself to be a big free agency guy, and the Wings still suck, so I don't see any big names coming our way via free agency. Continue to build from within and attempt crafty trades. Stay the course.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I don't know but i feel after the 2022 draft, stevie is going to make some big splash signings

Lot's of interesting names are on the horizon in UFA land

Barkov
Hertl
Zibanejad
Gaudreu
Forsberg
Paryako
Rakell

It's early but next offseason I would think atleast 2 of those names test the waters, do you think Stevie opens up his wallet for some significant upgrades next season ? It looks like a good time to do it especially if Barkov hits the market.

Let me save you a bit of trouble here. We aren't getting any of the guys you listed

Barkov is currently in the midst of working on an extension in Florida. His extension is being heavily discussed on the mains. It's expected to be announced early in the season.
Rumor: - [FLA] Barkov extension coming this month or September, Reinhart contract to be announced shortly

Zibanejad is another guy who is working on an extension.
NHL Rumors Weekly: Zibanejad extension; Sabres purge; Devils in on Hamilton, and more

Gaudreau is currently talking with Calgary about an extension.
https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-breaking-down-fair-gaudreau-extension/

Filip Forsberg's extension is a priority for David Poile. So is Mattias Ekholm's. I would guess that once Nashville is out of the playoff picture this year one of them will get traded at the deadline.
Forsberg, Ekholm extensions priority for Predators, GM says

So you're looking at Hertl, Parayko and Rakell from that list.

Parayko either signs a long term extension with St. Louis during the season or he's moved at the TDL to a contender who then signs him to a massive extension. I don't see St. Louis repeating the Pietrangelo mistake again because Morgan Rielly is plan B as the 2nd best UFA defenseman. I know which one I'd rather have on my team. But I also don't want Parayko if he comes at Nurse/Werenski/Jones money, and that's what he will probably want.

Rakell is no longer a 30 goal scorer. I don't know what happened to him but he's not nearly as good as he used to be. Who knows where he ends up.

Hertl still has some mileage but I can see him getting north of 6 million and I could see him running far away from the shit show in San Jose. Maybe a team like NJD will throw a lot of money at him. They have a ton of space moving forward.

So we're then looking at guys like Nick Leddy, Morgan Rielly, Rasmus Ristolainen (puke), Ondrej Palat, Nino Niederreiter, Hampus Lindholm (unlikely) Ryan Pulock (unlikely) Nazem Kadri (puke) Vincent Trochek, Sean Coutourier (unlikely) John Klingberg, Joshn Manson and Nikita Zadorov as the big name free agent skaters that still have gas left in the tank.

A couple of the defensemen make sense but I don't expect us to get more than depth players in free agency until 2023, so we probably get none of the above as well.

 

[rhef3]

Let me save you a bit of trouble here. We aren't getting any of the guys you listed

Barkov is currently in the midst of working on an extension in Florida. His extension is being heavily discussed on the mains. It's expected to be announced early in the season.
Rumor: - [FLA] Barkov extension coming this month or September, Reinhart contract to be announced shortly

Zibanejad is another guy who is working on an extension.
NHL Rumors Weekly: Zibanejad extension; Sabres purge; Devils in on Hamilton, and more

Gaudreau is currently talking with Calgary about an extension.
https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-breaking-down-fair-gaudreau-extension/

Filip Forsberg's extension is a priority for David Poile. So is Mattias Ekholm's. I would guess that once Nashville is out of the playoff picture this year one of them will get traded at the deadline.
Forsberg, Ekholm extensions priority for Predators, GM says

So you're looking at Hertl, Parayko and Rakell from that list.

Parayko either signs a long term extension with St. Louis during the season or he's moved at the TDL to a contender who then signs him to a massive extension. I don't see St. Louis repeating the Pietrangelo mistake again because Morgan Rielly is plan B as the 2nd best UFA defenseman. I know which one I'd rather have on my team. But I also don't want Parayko if he comes at Nurse/Werenski/Jones money, and that's what he will probably want.

Rakell is no longer a 30 goal scorer. I don't know what happened to him but he's not nearly as good as he used to be. Who knows where he ends up.

Hertl still has some mileage but I can see him getting north of 6 million and I could see him running far away from the shit show in San Jose. Maybe a team like NJD will throw a lot of money at him. They have a ton of space moving forward.

So we're then looking at guys like Nick Leddy, Morgan Rielly, Rasmus Ristolainen (puke), Ondrej Palat, Nino Niederreiter, Hampus Lindholm (unlikely) Ryan Pulock (unlikely) Nazem Kadri (puke) Vincent Trochek, Sean Coutourier (unlikely) John Klingberg, Joshn Manson and Nikita Zadorov as the big name free agent skaters that still have gas left in the tank.

A couple of the defensemen make sense but I don't expect us to get more than depth players in free agency until 2023, so we probably get none of the above as well.

DREAM RUINER !!!!!

How dare you

 

[Syckle78]

Barkov is the only one that will be worth whatever contract he signs.

 

[deca guard]

build the d , and try to fix the center issue . then summer 2023 when were ready to march add a big name or two vet scoring wingers and were set

 

[Ricelund]

build the d , and try to fix the center issue . then summer 2023 when were ready to march add a big name or two vet scoring wingers and were set

Some 2023 UFAs:

- Kane (34)
- Toews (35)
- O’Reilly (32)
- Monahan (28)
- Pastrnak (27)
- Tarsenko (31)
- MacKinnon (28)
- Meier (26)
- Huberdeau (30)
- JT Miller (30)
- Pacioretty (34)

Larkin and Bertuzzi are also set to go to UFA that summer.

 

[odin1981]

Heartl I would make a offer to. But I think he will go to a cup contender.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Heartl I would make a offer to. But I think he will go to a cup contender.

He's exactly what Vegas needs.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

This team won't be made through Free Agency as much as we like to fantasize about that being a possibility. Free Agency in the Cap Era, outside of the random John Tavares situation, is more about finding a complementary piece to an already established core - and the possibility of a star in their prime hitting the market has been reduced to almost next to zero. Extensions rule the day otherwise it's through trade if you know an extension isn't possible, and those trades only happen with assurance of...an extension.

We will be looking at Leddy-Caliber D as best case; or an overpriced scoring winger, or defensive center specialist going forward in the UFA markets, which is fine for what they are, but you only add them to complement, not to establish.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

This team won't be made through Free Agency as much as we like to fantasize about that being a possibility. Free Agency in the Cap Era, outside of the random John Tavares situation, is more about finding a complementary piece to an already established core - and the possibility of a star in their prime hitting the market has been reduced to almost next to zero. Extensions rule the day otherwise it's through trade if you know an extension isn't possible, and those trades only happen with assurance of...an extension.

We will be looking at Leddy-Caliber D as best case; or an overpriced scoring winger, or defensive center specialist going forward in the UFA markets, which is fine for what they are, but you only add them to complement, not to establish.

I will say this: Yzerman went to scout Morgan Rielly in person in 2012 when he accidentally spotted Brayden Point. Maybe we have an outside chance on Rielly if Toronto decides they want to blow their wad on Parayko instead?
(Although part of me really wants to go for Parayko. I just worry he's going to get Nurse/Jones/Werenski money from someone)

Or upgrade the RD by trading Hronek and signing Pulock? That could be interesting. We re-sign Leddy, sign Pulock. Then we'd have

Leddy - Seider
Edvinsson - Pulock

As the top 4.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Well...we can count out Sean Coutourier in the 2022 draft class.

 

[Henkka]

This Kotkaniemi offer-sheet has raised some speculations that Vincent Trocheck would be not extending at Carolina.

How about him as the 2nd line Center upgrade? He seemed always being pretty pumped up when playing against Wings.

What would be reasonable price? 5M per X years?

 

[Bench]

This Kotkaniemi offer-sheet has raised some speculations that Vincent Trocheck would be not extending at Carolina.

How about him as the 2nd line Center upgrade? He seemed always being pretty pumped up when playing against Wings.

What would be reasonable price? 5M per X years?

I'd be apprehensive going long-term on Trocheck as I feel he could become Weiss 2.0. He relies so much on his skating, you know? Love the guy but it's a worry locking up those guys into their mid 30s.

But yeah, you're looking at about $6 million and over 5 years to lock him up given his bounce back. If he has another great year, bidding will be really competitive and I can see someone going the full 7 years and over $6 million.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

We will not add a single big ticket free agent period till at least the 2024 off season.

We need to or will first
- add a top line center via draft or trade
- add an elite forward via draft or trade
- add a franchise dman via draft or trade
- add an elite dman via draft or trade
- add a high end starting goalie via draft or trade

Now its possible all of those guys are somewhere in our system today(ie seider, raymond, edvinsson and cossa) or have yet to be drafted/traded for.

But SY will not go big game hunting via free agency to complement our group, until the pieces for success are in place and established.

Theirs a better chance we trade for Eichel than sign barkov

 

[Henkka]

We will not add a single big ticket free agent period till at least the 2024 off season.

I would not declare that kind of things.

Yzerman will add players, if he likes to add players. He will turn every stone, of course free agency will be one area.

I'd be apprehensive going long-term on Trocheck as I feel he could become Weiss 2.0. He relies so much on his skating, you know? Love the guy but it's a worry locking up those guys into their mid 30s.

But yeah, you're looking at about $6 million and over 5 years to lock him up given his bounce back. If he has another great year, bidding will be really competitive and I can see someone going the full 7 years and over $6 million.

One thing what could be extraordiray on Yzerman's case, that maybe he will never give long-term deals for anybody anymore. So far his longest at Detroit was giving Mantha 4 years and traded away on the 1st year. Others have been 3 years or less.

I'm thinking he is preparing for that kind of culture with all guys at Detroit. That's our culture. And that's a great culture to avoid problematic long-term contracts, when the player regresses after some bad luck.

Yzerman: "My maximum is 4 years. You can always extend after that for another 4, why wouldn't you?" Then the player agrees.

Those 8-year deal won't fit well with player primes, it's almost always too early to pay high numbers to the end tail is too long for the player age. So maybe it's time to solve these things this way. He has also talked about it as an idea, for player to prove themselves. Not becoming a country club.

If we lose the player, so what? It also opens the capspace to use the money on another position. We'll move on. People are coming to Detroit, when this team is contending again. They will call like Hossa. Never overpay, because others are overpaying, so you'll stay strong. You'll contend year after year.

Maybe a prospect is ready to replace the "trocheck". But have to buy some time before the kid is ready. Somebody like Neiderbach could be on that time scale.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I would not declare that kind of things.

Yzerman will add players, if he likes to add players. He will turn every stone, of course free agency will be one area.

I think SY will utilize free agency.. but to compliment our core

I can see him adding depth or specific types of role players but not top end guys.. not yet

 

[deca guard]

 

[Bench]

If I'm one of the younglings, I look at this and know if I just hold up my end and perform then a payday is coming. Nothing but opportunity available.

 

[Henkka]

That's quite funny situation, only Vrana and Rasmussen are over summer 2023 on standard player contracts. Of course there's guys like Seider too on ELC, but still.

If I'm one of the younglings, I look at this and know if I just hold up my end and perform then a payday is coming. Nothing but opportunity available.

This will create huge carrot for all the donkeys.

 

[Henkka]

I don't know but i feel after the 2022 draft, stevie is going to make some big splash signings

Lot's of interesting names are on the horizon in UFA land

Hertl

More Tomas Hertl rumours, will want out from San Jose, if Evander Kane stays there.

Would be perfect to complete our line of Czechs. Skilled center who can play net-front role too. That would be perfect guy between Vrana and Zadina. Good faceoff-guy etc.

And he is still just 27-year old.

Time for Yzerman-trade. We could get him cheap, because he is pending UFA, and Sharks have now a threat losing him free. Pay something, like Pius Suter/Fabbri + pick and steal this guy.