Martinez
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simonedvinsson
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I'd thought I'd finalized my personal board, and then the Black Book dropped. I might still change a few of these leading up to the draft, but here's where I'm sitting right now:
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| RANK | PLAYER NAME | BIRTHDATE | NATION | POSITION | SHOOTS | HEIGHT | WEIGHT | VIDEO(+) |
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| 1 | Owen Power | 2002-11-22 | CAN | LD | Left | 6'6" | 209 | 1, 2, 3, H, ECH |
| 2 | Simon Edvinsson | 2003-02-05 | SWE | LD | Left | 6'5" | 185 | 1, 2, SR, H |
| 3 | William Eklund | 2002-10-12 | SWE | C/LW | Left | 5'10" | 172 | 1, 2, SR |
| 4 | Luke Hughes | 2003-09-09 | USA | LD | Left | 6'2" | 161 | 1, 2, 3, SR, H, A, 5g |
| 5 | Dylan Guenther | 2003-04-10 | CAN | LW/RW | Right | 6'1" | 170 | 1, 2 , 3, 5g, A |
| 6 | Matthew Beniers | 2002-11-05 | USA | C | Left | 6'1" | 168 | 1, 2, SR, ECH, A |
| 7 | Mason McTavish | 2003-06-30 | CAN | C/LW | Left | 6'1" | 196 | 1, H, A1, A2 |
| 8 | Brandt Clarke | 2003-02-09 | CAN | RD | Right | 6'1" | 181 | 1, 2, 3, SR, H, 5g, ECH, A1, A2 |
| 9 | Fyodor Svechkov | 2003-04-05 | RUS | C | Left | 6'0" | 179 | 1, 5g, SR |
| 10 | Sebastian Cossa | 2002-11-21 | CAN | G | Catch Left | 6'4" | 212 | 1 |
| 11 | Aleksi Heimosalmi | 2003-05-08 | FIN | RD | Right | 5'11" | 154 | 1 |
| 12 | Kent Johnson | 2002-10-18 | CAN | LW | Left | 6'1" | 185 | 1, 5g, SR |
| 13 | Cole Sillinger | 2003-05-16 | USA | C | Left | 6'0" | 187 | 1, SR, H, 5g, A |
| 14 | Fabian Lysell | 2003-01-19 | SWE | LW/RW | Right | 5'10" | 176 | 1, 2, SR |
| 15 | Jesper Wallstedt | 2002-11-14 | SWE | G | Catch Left | 6'3" | 209 | 1 |
| 16 | Carson Lambos | 2003-01-14 | CAN | LD | Left | 6'1" | 201 | 1 |
| 17 | Isak Rosén | 2003-03-15 | SWE | LW/RW | Left | 5'10" | 154 | 1, SR, A |
| 18 | Matthew Coronato | 2002-11-14 | USA | LW | Right | 5'10" | 181 | 1, SR, H |
| 19 | Xavier Bourgault | 2002-10-22 | CAN | C/RW | Right | 6'0" | 170 | 1, 2, 5g |
| 20 | Artyom Grushnikov | 2003-03-20 | RUS | LD | Left | 6'2" | 174 | 1 |
| 21 | Oskar Olausson | 2002-11-10 | SWE | RW | Left | 6'2" | 181 | 1, H |
| 22 | Chaz Lucius | 2003-05-02 | USA | C | Right | 6'0" | 172 | 1, 5g, H |
| 23 | Aatu Räty | 2002-11-14 | FIN | C | Left | 6'1" | 181 | 1, SR, A |
| 24 | Daniil Chayka | 2002-10-22 | RUS | LD | Left | 6'3" | 187 | 1 |
| 25 | Zachary L'Heureux | 2003-05-15 | CAN | LW | Left | 5'11" | 194 | 1, 2, 3 |
| 26 | Scott Morrow | 2002-11-02 | USA | RD | Right | 6'2" | 192 | 1, SR |
| 27 | Nikita Chibrikov | 2003-02-16 | RUS | LW | Left | 5'10" | 161 | 1, 5g |
| 28 | Corson Ceulemans | 2003-05-05 | CAN | RD | Right | 6'2" | 190 | 1 |
| 29 | Stanislav Svozil | 2003-01-17 | CZE | LD | Left | 6'1" | 172 | 1, 5g |
| 30 | Tristan Broz | 2002-10-10 | USA | LW/RW | Left | 5'11" | 172 | 1 |
| 31 | Samu Salminen | 2003-04-09 | FIN | C/LW | Left | 6'3" | 186 | 1 |
| 32 | Ayrton Martino | 2002-09-28 | CAN | LW | Left | 5'10" | 168 | 1, 5g, SR |
| 33 | Francesco Pinelli | 2003-04-11 | CAN | C | Left | 6'1" | 185 | 1, H |
| 34 | Brennan Othmann | 2003-01-05 | CAN | LW | Left | 5'11" | 165 | 1 |
| 35 | Prokhor Poltapov | 2003-02-01 | RUS | LW | Left | 5'11" | 161 | 1, 5g |
| 36 | Simon Robertsson | 2003-02-05 | SWE | LW/RW | Left | 6'0" | 181 | 1, SR |
| 37 | Ville Koivunen | 2003-06-13 | FIN | LW/RW | Left | 5'11" | 159 | 1, SR |
| 38 | Mackie Samoskevich | 2002-11-15 | USA | RW | Right | 5'9" | 172 | 1 |
| 39 | Logan Mailloux | 2003-04-15 | CAN | RD | Right | 6'3" | 214 | 1 |
| 40 | Brent Johnson | 2003-03-20 | USA | RD | Right | 5'11" | 165 | 1, 5g, SR |
| 41 | Samu Tuomaala | 2003-01-08 | FIN | RW/LW | Right | 5'10" | 165 | 1 |
| 42 | Hugo Gabrielsson | 2002-10-24 | SWE | LD | Left | 6'0" | 159 | |
| 43 | Redmond Savage | 2003-05-15 | USA | C/LW | Left | 5'11" | 174 | 1 |
| 44 | Liam Dower Nilsson | 2003-04-14 | SWE | C | Left | 5'11" | 159 | 1 |
| 45 | Samuel Helenius | 2002-11-26 | FIN | C | Left | 6'6" | 183 | 1 |
| 46 | William Strömgren | 2003-06-07 | SWE | LW | Left | 6'2" | 161 | 1 |
| 47 | Matthew Knies | 2002-10-17 | USA | C | Left | 6'2" | 205 | 1 |
| 48 | Colton Dach | 2003-01-04 | CAN | LW | Left | 6'2" | 183 | 1, H |
| 49 | Kalle Ervasti | 2003-03-07 | FIN | RD | Right | 6'0" | 163 | |
| 50 | Robert Orr | 2003-09-01 | CAN | C | Left | 5'11" | 176 | 1 |
| 51 | Jack Peart | 2003-05-15 | USA | LD | Left | 5'11" | 174 | 1 |
| 52 | Jake Martin | 2003-03-18 | USA | RD | Right | 6'0" | 190 | 1, SR |
| 53 | Olen Zellweger | 2003-09-10 | CAN | LD | Left | 5'9" | 165 | 1 |
| 54 | Vladislav Lukashevich | 2003-05-23 | RUS | LD | Left | 6'1" | 165 | 1 |
| 55 | Jack Bar | 2002-10-24 | CAN | RD | Right | 6'2" | 194 | 1 |
| 56 | Vasili Machulin* | 2002-08-07 | RUS | L-RD | Right | 6'4" | 185 | 1 |
| 57 | Dmitri Kuzmin | 2003-04-23 | BLR | LD | Left | 5'8" | 176 | 1, SR |
| 58 | Nikita Guslistov* | 2002-05-30 | RUS | C | Left | 5’9” | 170 | 1 |
| 59 | Kirill Kirsanov | 2002-09-19 | RUS | R-LD | Left | 6'1" | 198 | 1 |
| 60 | Alexander Suvorov | 2002-11-30 | BLR | LW | Left | 5'9" | 159 |
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HisNoodliness
The Karate Kid and ASP Kai
1. Power
---------2. Edvinsson
3.Hughes
4. Beniers
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5. Eklund
6. Clarke
7. Johnson
8. Guenther
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9. Lucius
10. Svechkov
11. Wallstedt
12. Lysell
13. Sillinger
14. L'Heureux
15. Lambos
16. Coronato
17. Mctavish
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18. Rosen
19. Raty
20. Cossa
21. Chayka
22. Bourgault
23. Bolduc
24. Pinelli
25. Samoskevich
26. Stankoven
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27. Robertsson
28. Dean
29. Svozil
30. Olsson
31. Mailloux
The Real Pastafarian
Registered dipshit
I know this is a ranking, and not how you think the draft will actually go, because of need, but: Damn I would love it if we could get Beniers at 6.
Not gonna happen though, not even close.
Barry Amsterdam
Nättias Dänielstrom
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genuinely supprised to see edvinsson so high.
1-Power
2-Hughes
3-Eklund
4-Johnson
5-Clarke
6-Guenther
7-Beniers
8-Wallstedt
9-Edvinsson
10-Lysell
11-Mctavish
12-lucius
13-coronato
14-Svechkov
15-Raty
1-Power
2-Hughes
3-Eklund
4-Johnson
5-Clarke
6-Guenther
7-Beniers
8-Wallstedt
9-Edvinsson
10-Lysell
11-Mctavish
12-lucius
13-coronato
14-Svechkov
15-Raty
Christien
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- May 1, 2010
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I haven't watched these guys nearly as much as the guys from last year, but here's my top 15 anyways:
1. Power
2. Hughes
3. Beniers
4. Johnson
5. Edvinsson
7. Eklund
8. Guenther
9. Clarke
10. Svechkov
11. Sillinger
12. McTavish
13. Wallstedt
14. Lucius
15. Lambos
1. Power
2. Hughes
3. Beniers
4. Johnson
5. Edvinsson
7. Eklund
8. Guenther
9. Clarke
10. Svechkov
11. Sillinger
12. McTavish
13. Wallstedt
14. Lucius
15. Lambos
lilidk
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1. Power
2. Beniers
3. Eklund
4. Hughes
5. Edvinsson
6. Mctavish
7. Clarke
8. Guenther
9. Johnson
10. Silinger
11. Wallstendt
Blabla
Bla
23 Pinelli
2. Beniers
3. Eklund
4. Hughes
5. Edvinsson
6. Mctavish
7. Clarke
8. Guenther
9. Johnson
10. Silinger
11. Wallstendt
Blabla
Bla
23 Pinelli
Reposting mine so that way in future years I can look back at this list and chuckle.
1. Clarke
2. Eklund
3. Beniers
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4. Wallstedt
5. Hughes
6. Johnson
7. Lysell
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8. McTavish
9. Svechkov
10. Power
11. Lambos
12. Guenther
13. Edvinsson
14. Raty
15. Sillinger
16. Cossa
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17. Lucius
18. Stankoven
19. Rosen
20. Robertsson
21. Olausson
22. Morrow
23. Pinelli
24. Svozil
25. Chbrikov
26. Samoskevich
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27. Stromgren
28. Koivunen
29. Bourgault
30. L'Heureux
31. Ceulmans
32. Coronato
HM: Othmann
HM: Martino
HM: Bolduc
HM: Heimosalmi
HM: Gaudreau
HM: Peart
HM: Knies
HM: Dean
HM: Mailloux
Tier 1 are the guys that I think combine high ceilings and high floors. Tier 2 are guys who are more boom/bust, but I'm giving weight to how high I think their potential is. Tier 3 are guys I like a lot who I have questions about their ceiling not so much their floor. Tier 3 are guys that I see as high upside or low risk, but usually not both. Tier 4 are those who I think would be really interesting pieces to add to our system!
1. Clarke
2. Eklund
3. Beniers
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4. Wallstedt
5. Hughes
6. Johnson
7. Lysell
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8. McTavish
9. Svechkov
10. Power
11. Lambos
12. Guenther
13. Edvinsson
14. Raty
15. Sillinger
16. Cossa
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17. Lucius
18. Stankoven
19. Rosen
20. Robertsson
21. Olausson
22. Morrow
23. Pinelli
24. Svozil
25. Chbrikov
26. Samoskevich
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27. Stromgren
28. Koivunen
29. Bourgault
30. L'Heureux
31. Ceulmans
32. Coronato
HM: Othmann
HM: Martino
HM: Bolduc
HM: Heimosalmi
HM: Gaudreau
HM: Peart
HM: Knies
HM: Dean
HM: Mailloux
Tier 1 are the guys that I think combine high ceilings and high floors. Tier 2 are guys who are more boom/bust, but I'm giving weight to how high I think their potential is. Tier 3 are guys I like a lot who I have questions about their ceiling not so much their floor. Tier 3 are guys that I see as high upside or low risk, but usually not both. Tier 4 are those who I think would be really interesting pieces to add to our system!
bedtime20
nap nap
Top 2:
Beniers--Wallstendt
Mid/late First:
Rosen
Cossa
Svechkov
Hughes
Early 2nd:
Raty
Morrow
Later Rounds:
Semyon Vyazovoy
Zakhar Vinogradov
Aito Iguchi
Beniers--Wallstendt
Mid/late First:
Rosen
Cossa
Svechkov
Hughes
Early 2nd:
Raty
Morrow
Later Rounds:
Semyon Vyazovoy
Zakhar Vinogradov
Aito Iguchi
I love that you opted for "blah blah blah" only to rank Pinelli at an arbitrary 23.
Henkka
Registered User
Thanks especially of those video links. I will also add your rank to my average rank.
Gniwder
Registered User
You get double props on the video links. Could you do it earlier next draft, lol?
All joking aside, good time saver.
lilidk
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- Mar 4, 2008
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I keep hearing that Pinelli is good , but he needs improve his skating. I thought he was one of the best on Canada team at this aspect of the game. With Coronato And Svechkov most likely gonna be gone I choose Penelli as the best available center for Red Wings
If I was drafting for the Wings.
1. Power
2. Hughes
3. Beniers
4. Edvinsson
5. Johnson
6. Eklund
7. McTavish
8. Svechkov
9. Guenther
10. Clarke
11. Sillinger
12.Rosen
13. Coronato
14.Wallstendt
15. Cossa
16. Lysell
17.Bourgault
1. Power
2. Hughes
3. Beniers
4. Edvinsson
5. Johnson
6. Eklund
7. McTavish
8. Svechkov
9. Guenther
10. Clarke
11. Sillinger
12.Rosen
13. Coronato
14.Wallstendt
15. Cossa
16. Lysell
17.Bourgault
Frk It
Mo Seider Less Problems
- Jul 27, 2010
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Any consideration to having Guenther higher? What are the drawbacks in your eyes?
DatsyukToZetterberg
Alligator!
I'll update this post later with my previous years lists: 2020. As always my list is based off of my own simple model and some limited viewings of players. I think this draft has a ton of interesting players spread throughout the draft, but I'm wary of the USHL crop this season. The average goals per game was almost 0.5 goals per game above previous seasons and it's something to keep in mind when looking at the offensive totals from that league.
My list is mostly tier based where players within a tier are interchangeable and even those a tier above or below could be swapped.
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A couple notes from my list:
My list is mostly tier based where players within a tier are interchangeable and even those a tier above or below could be swapped.
| Tier | NAME | DY+/- | POS |
| 1 | Matthew Beniers | DY | F |
| 1 | William Eklund | DY | F |
| 1 | Dylan Guenther | DY | F |
| 1 | Brandt Clarke | DY | D |
| 1 | Luke Hughes | DY | D |
| 2 | Owen Power | DY | D |
| 2 | Kent Johnson | DY | F |
| 2 | Mason McTavish | DY | F |
| 2 | Fabian Lysell | DY | F |
| 3 | Simon Edvinsson | DY | D |
| 3 | Fyodor Svechkov | DY | F |
| 3 | Cole Sillinger | DY | F |
| 3 | Aatu Raty | DY | F |
| 3 | Logan Stankoven | DY | F |
| 3 | Chaz Lucius | DY | F |
| 3 | Jesper Wallstedt | DY | G |
| 3 | Olen Zellweger | DY | D |
| 4 | William Stromgren | DY | F |
| 4 | Anton Olsson | DY | D |
| 4 | Conner Roulette | DY | F |
| 4 | Simon Robertsson | DY | F |
| 4 | Matthew Coronato | DY | F |
| 4 | Sasha Pastujov | DY | F |
| 4 | Xavier Bourgault | DY | F |
| 4 | Nikita Chibrikov | DY | F |
| 4 | Isak Rosen | DY | F |
| 4 | Zachary L'Heureux | DY | F |
| 4 | Sebastian Cossa | DY | G |
| 4 | Zachary Bolduc | DY | F |
| 4 | Ville Koivunen | DY | F |
| 4 | Prokhor Poltapov | DY | F |
| 4 | Samu Salminen | DY | F |
| 4 | Carson Lambos | DY | D |
| 5 | Francesco Pinelli | DY | F |
| 5 | Oskar Olausson | DY | F |
| 5 | Brent Johnson | DY | D |
| 5 | Scott Morrow | DY | D |
| 5 | Staislav Svozil | DY | D |
| 5 | Ayrton Martino | DY | F |
| 5 | Corson Ceulemans | DY | D |
| 5 | Aidan Hreschuk | DY | D |
| 5 | Daniil Chaika | DY | D |
| 5 | Alexander Kisakov | DY | F |
| 5 | Riley Kidney | DY | F |
| 6 | William Trudeau | DY | D |
| 6 | Cameron Whynot | DY | D |
| 6 | Kyle Masters | DY | D |
| 6 | Olivier Nadeau | DY | F |
| 6 | Dmitry Kostenko | DY | D |
| 6 | Jacob Guevin | DY | D |
| 6 | Wyatt Johnston | DY | F |
| 6 | Tyson Hinds | DY | D |
| 6 | Marcus Almquist | DY | F |
| 6 | Ethan Cardwell | DY+1 | F |
| 6 | Topias Vilén | DY | D |
| 6 | Sean Tschigerl | DY | F |
| 6 | Eric Alarie | DY | F |
| 7 | Brett Harrison | DY | F |
| 7 | Matthew Samoskevich | DY | F |
| 7 | Sean Behrens | DY | D |
| 7 | Samu Tuomaala | DY | F |
| 7 | Michael Milne | DY | F |
| 7 | Jakub Brabenec | DY | F |
| 7 | Michal Gut | DY+1 | F |
| 7 | Justin Robidas | DY | F |
| 7 | Matthew Knies | DY | F |
| 8 | Logan Mailloux | DY | D |
| 8 | Jiri Tichacek | DY | D |
| 8 | Ryder Korczak | DY | F |
| 8 | Simon Motew | DY | D |
| 8 | Ryan McCleary | DY | D |
| 8 | Simon Knak | DY+1 | F |
| 8 | Liam Dower Nilsson | DY | F |
| 8 | Ty Voit | DY | F |
| 8 | Martin Rysavy | DY | F |
| 8 | Lukas Pajer | DY | F |
| 8 | Trevor Wong | DY | F |
| 8 | Caedan Bankier | DY | F |
| 8 | Miguel Tourigny | DY+1 | D |
| 8 | Jake Chiasson | DY | F |
| 8 | Cole Huckins | DY | F |
| 8 | Peter Reynolds | DY | F |
| 9 | Kyle Crnkovic | DY+1 | F |
| 9 | Rhett Rhinehart | DY+1 | D |
| 9 | Jacob Melanson | DY | F |
| 9 | Danil Aimurzin | DY+1 | F |
| 9 | Dmitri Katelevsky | DY | F |
| 9 | Samuel Helenius | DY | F |
| 9 | Valtteri Karnaranta | DY | F |
| 9 | Hugo Gabrielsson | DY | D |
| 9 | Red Savage | DY | F |
| 9 | Charlie Desroches | DY+1 | D |
| 9 | Ben King | DY+1 | F |
| 9 | Chase Stillman | DY | F |
| 9 | James Hardie | DY+1 | F |
| 9 | Colton Dach | DY | F |
| 9 | Josh Doan | DY+1 | F |
| 9 | Brennan Othmann | DY | F |
| 9 | Tyson Galloway | DY | D |
| 10 | Arvid Eljas | DY | F |
| 10 | Xavier Simoneau | DY+2 | F |
| 10 | Jacob Dion | DY+1 | D |
| 10 | Dmitry Buchelnikov | DY | F |
| 10 | Ivan Didkovsky | DY+1 | F |
| 10 | Maxim Musorov | DY+2 | F |
| 10 | Oliver Kapanen | DY | F |
| 10 | Jeremy Wilmer | DY | F |
| 10 | Lukas Wernblom | DY+3 | F |
| 10 | Oskar Jellvik | DY | F |
| 10 | Philip Granath | DY | F |
| 10 | Francesco Arcuri | DY | F |
| 10 | Avery Hayes | DY | F |
| 10 | Braeden Kressler | DY | F |
| 10 | Billy Constantinou | DY+2 | D |
| 10 | Gannon Laroque | DY | D |
| 10 | Ryker Evans | DY+1 | D |
A couple notes from my list:
- I think it's likely that we get a player in my 1st tier with our pick. I think all of those in the top tier have clear top 6/Top 4 upside and I really think Eklund would be my choice at 6 should he fall.
- I think I'm lower on Edvinsson then most. I don't see where the offensive value will come from with him. He's never really been a big offensive play driver and while pairing him with Seider would be interesting I think we can get someone with almost as much upside in Olsson later in the draft.
- I believe I'm much higher on Zellweger & Olsson than most. Zellweger has everything you'd want in a smaller defenceman and he has the numbers to back up his game. He has been rising up boards and I think he's taken earlier now than before the U18s.
- Olsson on the other hand is a bit of gamble. He was excellent last year in his DY-1 season and while he was overmatched this year in the SHL he compared favorable to Brodin & Klefbom. He's not going to wow you with his play, but I really like his steady game and feel like he's been overlooked this year.
- Stankoven is someone that may suffer from the "Too Short" syndrome and fall too far. He has a real chance to play C at the next level, he's already fantastic at draws as an 18 year old, and he brings an excellent mix of offence/play driving. If he was 2 or 3 inches taller he'd be in the top 10 for me.
- The two top Finns imo are Koivunen and Salminen. Both have had late seasons pushes up a lot of rankings and I think both have solid middle 6 upside. Koivunen is a jack of all trades with excellent play driving numbers and Salminen is somehow flying under the radar as a 6'3 center. Salminen does have some skating issues, but I think those can be worked on and improved.
- This year has a good mix of overagers with Ethan Cardwell being the best. He should've bene drafted last year, but he's a good bet to be the first overager off the board as he dominated the Swedish 3rd tier this season. As well you have Michael Gut, dominated the Czech 2;Simon Knak, who did extremely well in the WHL; and Miguel Tourigny, an all offensive dman, as others to look out for. I think any of these players could be great value from the 3rd and on, but I'd expect them to be available into the 7th.
- I have a real issue with Zach Dean, Brennan Othmann, Matthew Knies, Matthew Samoskevich, Aleksi Heimosalmi, Samu Tuomaala, & Jack Peart. They're all talked as potential top 60 picks, but they do not have the production to back up those rankings. I think once you get outside of the top 60 or 75 players arguments can be made, but anything before that is a little rich for me. Heimosalmi and Dean are 2 players I'm especially concerned about it and would stay away from in the top 90 picks.
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How does Edvinsson exist in his own tier in your eyes? It feels odd to see someone in a tier of their own when it’s not like a Matthews, McDavid caliber prospect at the very top that might deserve that respect.
Just curious how you arrived here because I find it intriguing
1. Power
2. Eklund
3. Beniers
4. Hughes
5. Wallstedt
6. Clarke
7. Guenther
8. Edvinsson
9. Johnson
10. Mctavish
10.
2. Eklund
3. Beniers
4. Hughes
5. Wallstedt
6. Clarke
7. Guenther
8. Edvinsson
9. Johnson
10. Mctavish
10.
I don't dislike him, but I am not overly excited by him either. At the end of the day I think he will be a solid complimentary top 6 NHL winger. I actually think he is the safest forward of the lot even though I think his skating is a little overrated. I am probably holding the U-18 against him too much. Also, someone has to give if you want to move someone up and I do like those three in the third tier materially more.
I think of it in relative terms, not so much absolute terms. I would take all three of the top three above Edvinsson and I would absolutely take Edvinsson above all three in the third tier. Within the third tier I see these guys as pretty damn interchangeable. Preferences are small and change daily but I would not consider taking any over Edvinsson. Rank order may communicate the same general concept, but I am not sure it illustrates how close the players actually are to one another.
Consider it a measurement of preference.
Killerjas
Registered User
Not my list (Scouching), but here is a top 32 player list.
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| Tier | Player |
| 1 | Matthew Beniers |
| 1 | William Eklund |
| 1 | Jesper Wallstedt |
| 1 | Fabian Lysell |
| 1 | Luke Hughes |
| 2 | Kent Johnson |
| 2 | Owen Power |
| 2 | Simon Edvinsson |
| 2 | Brandt Clarke |
| 2 | Dylan Guenther |
| 2 | Mason McTavish |
| 2 | Aatu Räty |
| 3 | Fyodor Svechkov |
| 3 | Logan Stankoven |
| 3 | Cole Sillinger |
| 3 | Simon Robertsson |
| 3 | Isak Rosén |
| 3 | Matthew Coronato |
| 4 | Carson Lambos |
| 4 | Chaz Lucius |
| 4 | Scott Morrow |
| 4 | Nikita Chibrikov |
| 4 | Stanislav Svozil |
| 4 | Sebastian Cossa |
| 4 | Ville Koivunen |
| 4 | Oskar Olausson |
| 4 | Matthew Samoskevich |
| 4 | Ayrton Martino |
| 4 | William Strömgren |
| 4 | Xavier Bourgault |
| 4 | Francesco Pinelli |
| 5 | Dylan Duke |
COVID produced the best USHL season ever. While the NDTP was arguably down, you had an influx of CHL players and several that returned (or never left) when their NCAA seasons were cancelled. Overall that was as strong a league as I have ever seen.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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It's also in part because the Chicago Steel are becoming the pre-eminent USHL development team. On the Eliteprospects podcast they've interviewed members of the Steel's management and discussed at length how great their development program is.
The USHL isn't just a one or two league team anymore feeding the NCAA. They've really started to develop a lot of really good players on their own. Look at the drafts from 2014 to 2020 and see how many USHL players were in the first 2 rounds when compared to the previous 7 year span.
Nut Upstrom
You dirty dog!
1. Powers
2. Clarke
3. Beniers
4. Edvinsson
5. Guenther
6. Eklund
7. Hughes
8. Wallstedt
9. Johnson
10. Lucius
11. McTavish
12. Sillinger
13. Rosen
14. Lysell
15. Coronato
16. Lambos
17. Stankoven
18. Robertsson
19. Poltapov
20. Chibrikov
21. Chayka
22. Bourgault
23. L'Heureux
24. Svechkov
25. Ceulemans
26. Kirsanov
27. Olausson
28. Cossa
29. Bolduc
30. Pinelli
31. Behrens
32. Morrow
2. Clarke
3. Beniers
4. Edvinsson
5. Guenther
6. Eklund
7. Hughes
8. Wallstedt
9. Johnson
10. Lucius
11. McTavish
12. Sillinger
13. Rosen
14. Lysell
15. Coronato
16. Lambos
17. Stankoven
18. Robertsson
19. Poltapov
20. Chibrikov
21. Chayka
22. Bourgault
23. L'Heureux
24. Svechkov
25. Ceulemans
26. Kirsanov
27. Olausson
28. Cossa
29. Bolduc
30. Pinelli
31. Behrens
32. Morrow
DatsyukToZetterberg
Alligator!
I'm not trying to suggest that the league was watered down, just that the scoring was much higher than in previous years. The average number of ES goals per game from 2013 to 2019 was 4.5 while in the 2021 season it was 5.3. That's a sizeable increase and it's an important piece of context to consider when players had record breaking seasons. I believe players like Coronato/Pastujov compare pretty well with Colangelo/Brisson from last year, where they're more 20-40 type of picks, and not in the 5-15 range like I've seen some outlets suggest.
The Zetterberg Era
Ball Hockey Sucks
Behind on this versus past years, I have some tiers at work, but I have more to sort through and I am reading through the Black Book and other areas to see how different I am. Not surprising to me given the year but I feel like I am going to be kind of different than some, I think this was going to be a strange class kind of regardless, but having the weird year has made this a lot different for sure.
Excited to see everyone's list. I am committed to this as a top 6
1.) Luke Hughes
2.) Owen Power
3.) Dylan Guenther
4.) Simon Edvinsson
5.) Matt Beniers
6.) Kent Johnson
I will make sure to edit it. But this is one of my favorite threads every year.
Excited to see everyone's list. I am committed to this as a top 6
1.) Luke Hughes
2.) Owen Power
3.) Dylan Guenther
4.) Simon Edvinsson
5.) Matt Beniers
6.) Kent Johnson
I will make sure to edit it. But this is one of my favorite threads every year.
