Prospect Info: 2021 Leafs Board Prospect Rankings #7

[Morgs]

Kral was added with 7 votes. Vote for who to add next.

1. Each poll will be open for 24 hours.

2. As we never have a consensus way as to which players are still considered prospects, we'll be using my way (at least for the first few polls). The player must be U24 and have less than 50 GP in the NHL. The "prospects" that are left off because of these rules are Joey Anderson, Brennan Menell, Adam Brooks, Joseph Duszak, Vladimir Bobylev, and Nickolai Chebykin.

3. At this time we'll stick to the top-20, but if we want to go to 25 or 30 (I believe the Leafs have just over 30 guys that are eligible) I'll definitely go further.

Rankings:
1. Rasmus Sandin - 53.2%
2. Nick Robertson - 50.9%
3. Timothy Liljegren - 56.9%
4. Rodion Amirov - 90.6%
5. Topi Niemela - 62.1%
6. Matthew Knies - 45.4%
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On the Docket:

Player	Position	Age	League	GP	Goals	Points	PPG	NHLe	Acquired
Mikhail Abramov	C/W	20.4	QMJHL	25	12	30	1.20	15.6	4th Round Pick 2019
Veeti Miettinen	W	19.9	NCAA	31	11	24	0.77	11.2	6th Round Pick 2020
Mikko Kokkonen	LHD	20.6	Liiga	50	1	10	0.20	5.9	3rd Round Pick 2019
Roni Hirvonen	C/W	19.6	Liiga	54	6	15	0.28	8.2	2nd Round Pick 2020
Nick Abruzzese	W	22.2	NCAA	0	0	0	0.00	0.0	4th Round Pick 2019
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev	C	21.0	KHL	10	1	5	0.50	25.3	3rd Round Pick 2018
Dmitri Ovchinnikov	C/W	19.0	MHL	40	20	51	1.28	17.8	5th Round Pick 2020
Pontus Holmberg	W	22.5	SHL	45	9	23	0.51	20.5	6th Round Pick 2018
Pavel Gogolev	W	21.5	AHL	13	6	12	0.9	31.2	UDFA
Filip Kral	LHD	21.9	CZE	48	6	21	0.44	14.2	5th Round Pick 2018

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Next:

Player	Position	Age	League	GP	Goals	Points	PPG	NHLe	Acquired
Mike Koster	LHD	20.4	NCAA	31	3	12	0.39	7.3	5th Round Pick 2019
Axel Rindell	RHD	21.4	Liiga	47	7	19	0.40	12.0	6th Round Pick 2020
Alex Steeves	C/W	21.7	NCAA	29	15	32	1.10	20.9	UDFA
Ty Voit	W	18.2	OHL	0	0	0	0.00	0	5th Round Pick 2021
Ryan Tverberg	C	19.6	NCAA	14	4	7	0.50	8.4	7th Round Pick 2020
William Villeneuve	RHD	19.4	QMJHL	33	3	20	0.61	7.9	4th Round Pick 2020
Mac Hollowell	RHD	22.9	AHL	27	2	10	0.37	12.5	4th Round Pick 2018
Semyon Kizimov	W	21.6	VHL	35	7	14	0.40	8.8	7th Round Pick 2018
Kalle Loponen	RHD	20.5	U20 Sarja	44	11	36	0.82	4.9	7th Round Pick 2019
Wyatt Schingoethe	C	19.1	USHL	44	10	21	0.48	4.6	7th Round Pick 2020
Joe Miller	C/W	19.0	USHL	40	8	18	0.45	4.4	6th Round Pick 2020
Kristans Rubins	LHD	23.7	AHL	22	1	3	0.14	4.6	UDFA
John Fusco	RHD	20.2	USHL	20	2	12	0.60	5.8	7th Round Pick 2020
Ryan O'Connell	LHD	22.3	NCAA	27	0	6	0.22	4.2	7th Round Pick 2017
Vladislav Kara	W	23.4	KHL	23	1	3	0.13	6.6	4th Round Pick 2017

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Player	Position	Age	League	GP	SV%	Acquired
Ahktyamov, Artur	G	19.8	VHL	14	0.927	4th Round Pick 2020
Scott, Ian	G	22.6	AHL	1	0.857	4th Round Pick 2017
Woll, Joseph	G	23.1	AHL	15	0.892	3rd Round Pick 2016
Vyacheslav Peksa	G	19.0	MHL	17	0.909	6th Round Pick 2021

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Past Results:
Prospect Info: - 2019 Leafs Board Prospect Ranking #20
Prospect Info: - 2020 Leafs Board Prospect Rankings #20

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[Morgs]

My rankings have Abramov as the #7 guy (and my first 6 all have went), but the more I've been thinking about it this off-season the more I feel like I've been too low on Hirvonen due to his underlying stats in Liiga. He's stood out against players his age, he's the youngest of the "2nd tier" (imo) group with Abramov, Miettinen, and Kokkonen left (Niemela and Knies already picked), and his production away from his not very good Liiga team is great. He's playing for a different team (like Kokkonen) this year and I'm hoping for big things. I'm picking him.

Add Koster.

 

[stickty111]

Abramov

 

[Kiwi]

Abramov

Hirvonen is a bloody good little player but I prefer Abramov's all-around skill set when I'm comparing the two

 

[ottomaddox]

Roni

For the win

 

[Green Snow Storm]

Going with Hirvonen because I'm like 90% sure he will be a player. Which is impressive to say at his size. His motor will get him there, and he has underrated skill. Could very well turn into a good middle 6 player.

 

[IceColdBear]

Next five: Hirvonen, Abramov, Kokkonen, Abruzzese, Miettinen

 

[Apex Predator]

Add Koster

 

[ponder]

Roni, and add Ahktyamov.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Hirvonen. Add Koster.

 

[Knies iT]

Relatively close between Hirvonen and Abramov.

Big fan of the pest attributes in Roni's game but I think his lack of breakaway speed is going to limit his already non-elite skillset at the NHL level. It's one of the same reasons why I have Knies above him, who is a bigger, more projectable version of Abramov as well.

Edge to Abramov. First Euro captain to win a QMJHL championship, consistently head and shoulders above his teammates in PPG, and has a more standout skill set across the board. Also showed some bite at the WJC with his suspension.

Add Koster.

 

[Lauro]

Kokkonen, add Voit

 

[Blowfish]

Yikes, prospect pool is very weak....

 

[Tarmore]

Yikes, prospect pool is very weak....

Not really

Look back to the 80's

 

[ULF_55]

Not really

Look back to the 80's

Post kind of indicates where it is at, look back to the 80's to feel good about this?

Although I think Sandin and Liljegren could be NHL players today, everyone else is more on the hope and prayers category.

My guess there will be others who make it who have no bearing on any voting that goes on here, could be in the top 5 could be 20th. Crapshoot.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Yikes, prospect pool is very weak....

Look at most other teams prospect pools. Especially contenders. Ours is better than most of them.

 

[Tarmore]

Post kind of indicates where it is at, look back to the 80's to feel good about this?

Although I think Sandin and Liljegren could be NHL players today, everyone else is more on the hope and prayers category.

My guess there will be others who make it who have no bearing on any voting that goes on here, could be in the top 5 could be 20th. Crapshoot.

In the 80's we had very little in the pipiline.

Today we have lots. Are we the #1 team flush with prospects no.

That and the majority of those complaining of the state of our prospects were not even alive in the 80's makes the argument that much easier...

 

[ULF_55]

In the 80's we had very little in the pipiline.

Today we have lots. Are we the #1 team flush with prospects no.

That and the majority of those complaining of the state of our prospects were not even alive in the 80's makes the argument that much easier...

In the 80's they were in the NHL much too soon. Sandin would be in year 3 now and Liljegren a vet, right or wrong.

 

[Tarmore]

In the 80's they were in the NHL much too soon. Sandin would be in year 3 now and Liljegren a vet, right or wrong.

True, and that's one of the main reasons why they never had prospects in the pipeline developing.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Yikes, prospect pool is very weak....

Not at all. Look around the League. We might not have a Steutzle level prospect but we have a very deep pool compared to the rest of the league. We are probably in the 8-12 range. Considering we are top 5-10 team, thats great.

Liljegren, Sandin and Niemela all have serious top 4 potential.

Amirov and Robertson have serious top 6 forward potential.

Knies has size, hands and an NHL shot already. Has top 9 potential

Then we have a cluster of guys like Hirvonen, Abramov, Abruzzese, Miettinen that all have a nice combinations of skills that could see them as potential top 9 guys. They might not be as likely to hit but I like their chances.

You have a cluster of D men like Kral, Koster, Kokkonen who are potential bottom pairing guys with some good skills.

This is not a weak pool.

 

[stickty111]

Yikes, prospect pool is very weak....

Incorrect

 

[tmlfan98]

Add Hollowell

 

[Twine Tickler]

I liken the people who think this prospect pool as weak to the anti-vax'ers of the world.

Misinformed, and consistently deny the obvious facts and data.

We have plenty to be excited about from a futures perspective. We have at least 10 players with above average chances of playing in the NHL at some point. Surely at least 1 of them will become a high impact player. And when you factor in the fact that we have either drafted outside of the 1st round or late in the first round every year since 2016, there really is no wonder why we don't have these Stuetzle level prospects that people would associate to a strong prospect pool. But Sandin, Lilly, and Robertson are still considered to be high level prospects. Even Amirov and Neimela for that matter.

You cannot rebuild your pool and compete at the same time, they tend to be inversely proportional. It is exactly why teams like buffalo tank/liquidate. To rebuild their pools. I'd say we've drafted very very well despite being in our "competing" window

 

[Magic Man]

Hirvonen was the easy pick here.

Going into the next round, I'm not as high on Abramov as others. I have him behind Abruzzese, Kokkonen and Gogolev. I think he is in a group of forwards with Abruzzese, Gogolev, Miettinen, Holmberg and SDA where not all that much seperates them. All are good B-prospects. But, I'm not sure why he is a clear favourite going into next round based on his body of work.

Add Hollowell.

 

[TheScandal89]

Look at most other teams prospect pools. Especially contenders. Ours is better than most of them.

I dont think ours is terrible per say, the problem is we basically have 2 types of players mainly. Small skilled puck moving defenseman and smallish skilled wingers. Not any Defensive D, power forward, two way forwards (Hiro is one), etc.

We need to diversify our picks imo. I was for drafting Guhle or Schneider for that reason. With that said im not against Amirov.