Ok first of all, the point you keep missing is I haven't been saying anything about Quinn this whole time. I keep saying I've hardly seen him play. I don't know what you want me to say about him. He looks good from what I've seen. I like Mercer better.
What I was trying to say is Holtz would put up monster numbers in the OHL on any team, with any linemates. You seem to be arguing that he would need an elite playmaker like Rossi to do so.
Secondly, nuance, man. I'm saying Holtz doesn't tend to drive play with the puck. You're saying "he needs someone to set him up" and then you say that we're saying the same thing. We're not. I believe you're off in your evaluation of Holtz. Again, his playmaking is terribly underrated, and he's so much more than a pure shooter. Maybe tomorrow I'll find some clips for you.
Amirov and I think Rossi fall under the same category (although again, I haven't seen nearly as much of Rossi). They can dictate play away from the puck by skating good routes and getting into dangerous areas, they don't need the puck on their stick long to make good things happen, they're good give-and-go players. This is a very NHL-translatable quality; players who always have the puck in junior might not always have it in the NHL so they have to know how to play away from the puck.
But as with Amirov or Rossi, Holtz was very dynamic with the puck in short bursts at the junior level. From what I've seen I'd say he's actually more dangerous than either of those players in one-on-one situations. He's maybe not as deceptive a skater but he's got some vicious dekes in his arsenal.
Who are some good NHL examples? Maybe Brayden Point or David Pastrnak. I'd like to see a study on who creates the most offense per amount of time with the puck on their stick.
Oh, one more thing, I never yelled "bullshit". I spoke it in a very calm, reserved manner. If only you'd heard the tone I said it this debate wouldn't have got so heated.