Prospect Info: 2020 HF-Panthers top prospects vote, #11

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2019 top 25 list

#1 G - Spencer Knight (2019, #13), Boston College (NCAA) - 41.5% of votes
#2 F - Owen Tippett (2017, #10), Florida Panthers (NHL) / Charlotte Checkers (AHL) - 66.7%
#3 F - Anton Lundell (2020, #12), HIFK (Liiga) - 66.7%
#4 F - Grigori Denisenko (2018, #15), Florida Panthers (NHL) / Charlotte Checkers (AHL) - 87.2%
#5 D - Riley Stillman (2016, #114), Florida Panthers (NHL) / Charlotte Checkers (AHL) - 23.1%
#6 D - Vladislav Kolyachonok (2019, #52), Dinamo Minsk (KHL) - 30.3%
#7 D - Max Gildon (2017, #66), Charlotte Checkers (AHL) - 24.3%
#8 F - Aleksi Saarela (2015, #89), Florida Panthers (NHL) / Charlotte Checkers (AHL) - 35.9%
#9 F - Henrik Borgström (2016, #23), HIFK (Liiga) - 39.1%
#10 F - Eetu Luostarinen (2017, #42), KalPa (Liiga) / Charlotte Checkers (AHL) - 33.3%

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Prospects included in the vote (25yo or under, and under contract or rights owned by the team) and left to be added:

F - Juho Lammikko (2014, #65), Metallurg Magnitogorsk (KHL)
F - Henry Bowlby (undrafted), Charlotte Checkers (AHL)
F - Jonathan Ang (2016, #94), Charlotte Checkers (AHL)
F - Rodrigo Abols (2016, #184), Örebro HK (SHL)
F - Patrick Bajkov (undrafted), Greenville Swamp Rabbits (ECHL)
F - Justin Schütz (2018, #170), EC Salzburg (IceHL)
F - Henrik Rybinski (2019, #136), Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL)
F - Owen Lindmark (2019, #137), Univ. of Wisconsin (NCAA)
F - Justin Sourdif (2020, #87), Vancouver Giants (WHL)
F - Elliot Ekmark (2020, #198), Linköping HC (SHL)

D - Alec Rauhauser (undrafted), DVTK Jegesmedvék (Slovakia) / Charlotte Checkers (AHL)
D - Jake Massie (2015, #156), Charlotte Checkers (AHL)
D - Tyler Inamoto (2017, #133), Univ. of Wisconsin (NCAA)
D - Cole Krygier (2018, #201), Michigan State Univ. (NCAA)
D - Santtu Kinnunen (2018, #207), Tappara (Liiga)
D - Carter Berger (2019, #106), Univ. of Connecticut (NCAA)
D - Michael Benning (2020, #95), Univ. of Denver (NCAA)
D - Zach Uens (2020, #105), Merrimack College (NCAA)
D - Kasper Puutio (2020, #153), Kärpät (Liiga)

G - Samuel Montembeault (2015, #77), Charlotte Checkers (AHL)
G - Ryan Bednard (2015, #206), Charlotte Checkers (AHL) / Greenville Swamp Rabbits (ECHL)
G - Devon Levi (2020, #212), Northeastern Univ. (NCAA) / Carleton Place Canadians (CCHL)

Remember to vote for the next prospect to be added by replying to this thread.

 

[Prominence Problem]

Noel

My personal rankings:


Tier 1
2. Knight
1. Tippet
4. Lundell
3. Denisenko

Tier 2
7. (11 overall) - Stillman
5. (9th) - Kolyachonok
1. (5th) - Gildon
3. (7th) - Saarela
6. (10) - Borgström

Tier 3
2. (13) - Luostarinen



Add Uens

 

[KW]

Ludwig. I’ll be honest, he wasn’t going to be my next one but I looked more closely after many people chimed in and I agree, he’s got great potential.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Noel; add Sourdif.

 

[violaswallet]

Noel

My personal rankings:


Tier 1
2. Knight
1. Tippet
4. Lundell
3. Denisenko

Tier 2
7. (11 overall) - Stillman
5. (9th) - Kolyachonok
1. (5th) - Gildon
3. (7th) - Saarela
6. (10) - Borgström

Tier 3
2. (13) - Luostarinen



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What! I’m an economists: usually we don’t say preferences are bad but Eetu so low is just bad!! You must really hate the Trocheck deal

Priskie is my pick here

 

[Prominence Problem]

What! I’m an economists: usually we don’t say preferences are bad but Eetu so low is just bad!! You must really hate the Trocheck deal

Priskie is my pick here

No I don't hate that deal, actually I like it, a lot.

Panthers received a potential 3C, 3D , and the year of a 2 C and 3 C . All of this for a declining 2C.

I have Eetu as my

Spoiler: My ranking

8th overall

forward prospect. I think that's very fair for a potential 3C player.

 

[IM Clutcm]

No I don't hate that deal, actually I like it, a lot.

Panthers received a potential 3C, 3D , and the year of a 2 C and 3 C . All of this for a declining 2C.

I have Eetu as my

Spoiler: My ranking

8th overall

forward prospect. I think that's very fair for a potential 3C player.

Even calling Tro a declining 2C is being generous for what he was at the time of the trade. He's more like a mediocre 3C, he never returned to form after that second injury.

 

[violaswallet]

No I don't hate that deal, actually I like it, a lot.

Panthers received a potential 3C, 3D , and the year of a 2 C and 3 C . All of this for a declining 2C.

I have Eetu as my

Spoiler: My ranking

8th overall

forward prospect. I think that's very fair for a potential 3C player.

Eh got to disagree: I don’t see how a high probability bottom 6 two-way forward is ranked so low!

I guess I see that logic with the Trocheck deal but I must say I’d prefer over Troch over two prospects with your ranking

 

[16Skippy]

Noel, add Lammikko

Edit: why doesn’t anyone else like Lammikko lol

 

[Prominence Problem]

Eh got to disagree: I don’t see how a high probability bottom 6 two-way forward is ranked so low!

I guess I see that logic with the Trocheck deal but I must say I’d prefer over Troch over two prospects with your ranking

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree then.
With a good showing this year, he will easily move up in my ranking, or be taken off the prospect list.

I guess I should say I'm not factoring players stats from this year, as all players aren't playing yet. That makes it unfair IMO.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Noel, add Lammikko

Edit: why doesn’t anyone else like Lammikko lol

Or Monty and Bednard.

 

[violaswallet]

Also add Lindmark!

 

[violaswallet]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree then.
With a good showing this year, he will easily move up in my ranking, or be taken off the prospect list.

I guess I should say I'm not factoring players stats from this year, as all players aren't playing yet. That makes it unfair IMO.

Eh our goal is to be right not fair!

 

[BabyBennettov]

Voted Priskie AGAIN lol...

Add Puutio.

 

[CHGoalie27]

Noel, add Lammikko

Edit: why doesn’t anyone else like Lammikko lol

I like Lammikko a lot
Not sure why nobody seems to realize Hutsko's potential

 

[Prominence Problem]

I like Lammikko a lot
Not sure why nobody seems to realize Hutsko's potential

Soon Kemosabe...

 

[letsgrowcactus]

I like Lammikko a lot
Not sure why nobody seems to realize Hutsko's potential

I like Hutsko. Another guy with "3rd line guy but you can push him up in a pinch" potential.
His history of injuries does concern me. Guy just has the worst luck. Also, I'd like him to have a dominant last year in college.

I like a lot of the guys we have left on the list. Ludvig probably should have been in that top10. Schwindt as the prototypocal 3C prospect is kinda getting lost now behind Luostarinen but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a jump in the rankings next year (last year we had him at 21, if he's not top15 this year he's being undervalued). Noel didn't have the best year with a lingering back injury but he's shown in the past that he can do much better than that - I'm hoping a strong AHL showing pushes him back into our top 10 and on the way to being a physical middle 6 guy in the NHL. Priskie's not playing right now unlike Lusto so he's not getting much attention, but he's another promising guy who might get some NHL games this year. Lammikko could be a decent bottom 6 guy. Besides Lundell, none of our newly drafted guys made the top 10, might not even make top15 - no idea who, but I bet one or two of them will be there come next year. Heponiemi is more likely a bust than not, but then again, he was drafted just three years ago - he's quietly rebuilding his confidence in Sweden, and I haven't completely given up on him, even as he takes a deep (and deserved) nosedive in our rankings. I'm not a big Montembeault fan but he is closer to being a full-time NHL player (even if just a backup) that almost any other guy left on our list. Lindmark's got the tools to be a bottom 6 forward. Bednard didn't have a great first year as a pro goalie, but he was excellent in college and I liked his showings in camp - haven't given up on him after one meh year.

Then again this is all mindless fun to pass time until the season starts. Just posting our rankings from 2017:
#1 Henrik Borgstrom (C, 2016 - #23), Univ. of Denver (NCAA) - 56.79% of votes
#2 Owen Tippett (LW/RW, 2017 - #10), Mississauga Steelheads (OHL) - 72.31%
#3 Adam Mascherin (C/LW, 2016 - #38), Kitchener Rangers (OHL) - 22.86%
#4 Samuel Montembeault (G, 2015 - #77), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 27.94%
#5 Ian McCoshen (D, 2013 - #31), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 47.46%
#6 Denis Malgin (C/RW, 2015 - #102), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 47.27%
#7 Jayce Hawryluk (C/RW, 2014 - #32), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 51.02%
#8 Jared McCann (C/LW, 2014 - #24), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 41.30%
#9 Henrik Haapala (LW/RW, undrafted), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 38.46%
#10 MacKenzie Weegar (D, 2013 - #206), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 37.14%
#11 Maxim Mamin (LW/RW, 2016 - #175), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 70.00%
#12 Aleksi Heponiemi (C, 2017 - #40), Swift Current Broncos (WHL) - 52.17%
#13 Juho Lammikko (RW/LW, 2014 - #65), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 34.15%
#14 Sebastian Repo (C/RW, 2017 - #184), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 34.29%
#15 Jonathan Ang (C, 2016 - #94), Peterborough Petes (OHL) - 44.12%
#16 Dryden Hunt (LW, undrafted), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 37.04%
#17 Riley Stillman (D, 2016 - #114), Oshawa Generals (OHL) - 44.00%
#18 Max Gildon (D, 2017 - #66), Univ. of New Hampshire (NCAA) - 41.67%
#19 Linus Hultstrom (D, undrafted), Djurgårdens IF (SHL) - 31.82%
#20 Tyler Inamoto (D, 2017 - #133), Univ. of Wisconsin (NCAA) - 37.50%
#21 Mike Downing (D, 2013 - #97), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 33.33%
#22 Thomas Schemitsch (D, 2015 - #88), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 40.00%
#23 Linus Nassen (D, 2016 - #89), Luleå HF (SHL) - 40.00%
#24 Benjamin Finkelstein (D, 2016 - #195), St. Lawrence Univ. (NCAA) - 31.25%

Re-ranked three years later, the top 10 would be:
1.Weegar (previously n.10) (FrolikFan was pretty bullish on Weegar - good for him)
2. Tippett (n.2)
3.-5. some combination of Gildon (18), Stillman (17) and McCann (8, traded away but he is a decent NHLer)
6. Borgstrom (n.1)
7.10. - ? Who the hell knows...

By my count, three or four of our top5 prospects would not be ranked there now - then again, even this ranking is not final. Who knows how Gildon looks three years from now - he may be an offensive n.3, or he may be a barely NHL-level bust. Who knows how Stillman looks; Tippett hasn't made the jump yet. Maybe Lammikko establishes himself decisively as a bottom6 guy, or Monty has a strong year, maybe Mamin comes back two years from now as a middle 6 guy. Maybe Bednard (not ranked here) establishes himself as an NHL backup. I hope our current list is better, but what do I know...

 

[CHGoalie27]

I like Hutsko. Another guy with "3rd line guy but you can push him up in a pinch" potential.
His history of injuries does concern me. Guy just has the worst luck. Also, I'd like him to have a dominant last year in college.

I like a lot of the guys we have left on the list. Ludvig probably should have been in that top10. Schwindt as the prototypocal 3C prospect is kinda getting lost now behind Luostarinen but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a jump in the rankings next year (last year we had him at 21, if he's not top15 this year he's being undervalued). Noel didn't have the best year with a lingering back injury but he's shown in the past that he can do much better than that - I'm hoping a strong AHL showing pushes him back into our top 10 and on the way to being a physical middle 6 guy in the NHL. Priskie's not playing right now unlike Lusto so he's not getting much attention, but he's another promising guy who might get some NHL games this year. Lammikko could be a decent bottom 6 guy. Besides Lundell, none of our newly drafted guys made the top 10, might not even make top15 - no idea who, but I bet one or two of them will be there come next year. Heponiemi is more likely a bust than not, but then again, he was drafted just three years ago - he's quietly rebuilding his confidence in Sweden, and I haven't completely given up on him, even as he takes a deep (and deserved) nosedive in our rankings. I'm not a big Montembeault fan but he is closer to being a full-time NHL player (even if just a backup) that almost any other guy left on our list. Lindmark's got the tools to be a bottom 6 forward. Bednard didn't have a great first year as a pro goalie, but he was excellent in college and I liked his showings in camp - haven't given up on him after one meh year.

Then again this is all mindless fun to pass time until the season starts. Just posting our rankings from 2017:
#1 Henrik Borgstrom (C, 2016 - #23), Univ. of Denver (NCAA) - 56.79% of votes
#2 Owen Tippett (LW/RW, 2017 - #10), Mississauga Steelheads (OHL) - 72.31%
#3 Adam Mascherin (C/LW, 2016 - #38), Kitchener Rangers (OHL) - 22.86%
#4 Samuel Montembeault (G, 2015 - #77), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 27.94%
#5 Ian McCoshen (D, 2013 - #31), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 47.46%
#6 Denis Malgin (C/RW, 2015 - #102), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 47.27%
#7 Jayce Hawryluk (C/RW, 2014 - #32), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 51.02%
#8 Jared McCann (C/LW, 2014 - #24), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 41.30%
#9 Henrik Haapala (LW/RW, undrafted), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 38.46%
#10 MacKenzie Weegar (D, 2013 - #206), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 37.14%
#11 Maxim Mamin (LW/RW, 2016 - #175), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 70.00%
#12 Aleksi Heponiemi (C, 2017 - #40), Swift Current Broncos (WHL) - 52.17%
#13 Juho Lammikko (RW/LW, 2014 - #65), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 34.15%
#14 Sebastian Repo (C/RW, 2017 - #184), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 34.29%
#15 Jonathan Ang (C, 2016 - #94), Peterborough Petes (OHL) - 44.12%
#16 Dryden Hunt (LW, undrafted), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 37.04%
#17 Riley Stillman (D, 2016 - #114), Oshawa Generals (OHL) - 44.00%
#18 Max Gildon (D, 2017 - #66), Univ. of New Hampshire (NCAA) - 41.67%
#19 Linus Hultstrom (D, undrafted), Djurgårdens IF (SHL) - 31.82%
#20 Tyler Inamoto (D, 2017 - #133), Univ. of Wisconsin (NCAA) - 37.50%
#21 Mike Downing (D, 2013 - #97), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 33.33%
#22 Thomas Schemitsch (D, 2015 - #88), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 40.00%
#23 Linus Nassen (D, 2016 - #89), Luleå HF (SHL) - 40.00%
#24 Benjamin Finkelstein (D, 2016 - #195), St. Lawrence Univ. (NCAA) - 31.25%

Re-ranked three years later, the top 10 would be:
1.Weegar (previously n.10) (FrolikFan was pretty bullish on Weegar - good for him)
2. Tippett (n.2)
3.-5. some combination of Gildon (18), Stillman (17) and McCann (8, traded away but he is a decent NHLer)
6. Borgstrom (n.1)
7.10. - ? Who the hell knows...

By my count, three or four of our top5 prospects would not be ranked there now - then again, even this ranking is not final. Who knows how Gildon looks three years from now - he may be an offensive n.3, or he may be a barely NHL-level bust. Who knows how Stillman looks; Tippett hasn't made the jump yet. Maybe Lammikko establishes himself decisively as a bottom6 guy, or Monty has a strong year, maybe Mamin comes back two years from now as a middle 6 guy. Maybe Bednard (not ranked here) establishes himself as an NHL backup. I hope our current list is better, but what do I know...

First and outta the way I'm still all in on Sam. I don't consider him part of this otherwise I'd be voting him up from the start. I'd never seen a kid come in, do what he did against the adversity of such shit in front of him (his very first shot on goal summarizing it all perfectly) have a winning record and still get the shaft and no credit. When he wasn't getting left completely out to dry, as Dreidger only faced like twice(and what's his stats look like, much to point), and/or being pulled for it- he looked like everything I said he was.

Stillman is also off this list as far as I'm concerned. Ekblad, Weegar, and Stillman have been our most reliable Dmen.

Hutsko's only downside I can find is that he's injury prone. Noel I fear the same, just like Nicky was, but he def. could have the same upside with a touch more nastiness to his game. Hutsko has some electricity to him that should surprise everyone.

Bednard hasn't gotten amy looks yet, but my opinion of him hasn't changed and I've been given no reason to think he shouldn't eventually make his way all the way up.

I love players like Lammikko and Mamin, 4th line style workers don't get much love because their value isn't really measured on the stat sheet, but those are the guys that make the difference in the tight games.

I still expect Gildon to battle Ek for number 1. I've never been so high on a defensive prospect. Nothing but great to say about him every time I watch him. @NewHampshire where ya at brotha??

 

[16Skippy]

See this is why I tend to vote for "high floor" players after the blue-chip prospects are off the board. They are usually the ones who see NHL ice.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I like Hutsko. Another guy with "3rd line guy but you can push him up in a pinch" potential.
His history of injuries does concern me. Guy just has the worst luck. Also, I'd like him to have a dominant last year in college.

I like a lot of the guys we have left on the list. Ludvig probably should have been in that top10. Schwindt as the prototypocal 3C prospect is kinda getting lost now behind Luostarinen but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a jump in the rankings next year (last year we had him at 21, if he's not top15 this year he's being undervalued). Noel didn't have the best year with a lingering back injury but he's shown in the past that he can do much better than that - I'm hoping a strong AHL showing pushes him back into our top 10 and on the way to being a physical middle 6 guy in the NHL. Priskie's not playing right now unlike Lusto so he's not getting much attention, but he's another promising guy who might get some NHL games this year. Lammikko could be a decent bottom 6 guy. Besides Lundell, none of our newly drafted guys made the top 10, might not even make top15 - no idea who, but I bet one or two of them will be there come next year. Heponiemi is more likely a bust than not, but then again, he was drafted just three years ago - he's quietly rebuilding his confidence in Sweden, and I haven't completely given up on him, even as he takes a deep (and deserved) nosedive in our rankings. I'm not a big Montembeault fan but he is closer to being a full-time NHL player (even if just a backup) that almost any other guy left on our list. Lindmark's got the tools to be a bottom 6 forward. Bednard didn't have a great first year as a pro goalie, but he was excellent in college and I liked his showings in camp - haven't given up on him after one meh year.

Then again this is all mindless fun to pass time until the season starts. Just posting our rankings from 2017:
#1 Henrik Borgstrom (C, 2016 - #23), Univ. of Denver (NCAA) - 56.79% of votes
#2 Owen Tippett (LW/RW, 2017 - #10), Mississauga Steelheads (OHL) - 72.31%
#3 Adam Mascherin (C/LW, 2016 - #38), Kitchener Rangers (OHL) - 22.86%
#4 Samuel Montembeault (G, 2015 - #77), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 27.94%
#5 Ian McCoshen (D, 2013 - #31), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 47.46%
#6 Denis Malgin (C/RW, 2015 - #102), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 47.27%
#7 Jayce Hawryluk (C/RW, 2014 - #32), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 51.02%
#8 Jared McCann (C/LW, 2014 - #24), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 41.30%
#9 Henrik Haapala (LW/RW, undrafted), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 38.46%
#10 MacKenzie Weegar (D, 2013 - #206), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 37.14%
#11 Maxim Mamin (LW/RW, 2016 - #175), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 70.00%
#12 Aleksi Heponiemi (C, 2017 - #40), Swift Current Broncos (WHL) - 52.17%
#13 Juho Lammikko (RW/LW, 2014 - #65), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 34.15%
#14 Sebastian Repo (C/RW, 2017 - #184), Florida Panthers (NHL) - 34.29%
#15 Jonathan Ang (C, 2016 - #94), Peterborough Petes (OHL) - 44.12%
#16 Dryden Hunt (LW, undrafted), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 37.04%
#17 Riley Stillman (D, 2016 - #114), Oshawa Generals (OHL) - 44.00%
#18 Max Gildon (D, 2017 - #66), Univ. of New Hampshire (NCAA) - 41.67%
#19 Linus Hultstrom (D, undrafted), Djurgårdens IF (SHL) - 31.82%
#20 Tyler Inamoto (D, 2017 - #133), Univ. of Wisconsin (NCAA) - 37.50%
#21 Mike Downing (D, 2013 - #97), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 33.33%
#22 Thomas Schemitsch (D, 2015 - #88), Springfield Thunderbirds (AHL) - 40.00%
#23 Linus Nassen (D, 2016 - #89), Luleå HF (SHL) - 40.00%
#24 Benjamin Finkelstein (D, 2016 - #195), St. Lawrence Univ. (NCAA) - 31.25%

Re-ranked three years later, the top 10 would be:
1.Weegar (previously n.10) (FrolikFan was pretty bullish on Weegar - good for him)
2. Tippett (n.2)
3.-5. some combination of Gildon (18), Stillman (17) and McCann (8, traded away but he is a decent NHLer)
6. Borgstrom (n.1)
7.10. - ? Who the hell knows...

By my count, three or four of our top5 prospects would not be ranked there now - then again, even this ranking is not final. Who knows how Gildon looks three years from now - he may be an offensive n.3, or he may be a barely NHL-level bust. Who knows how Stillman looks; Tippett hasn't made the jump yet. Maybe Lammikko establishes himself decisively as a bottom6 guy, or Monty has a strong year, maybe Mamin comes back two years from now as a middle 6 guy. Maybe Bednard (not ranked here) establishes himself as an NHL backup. I hope our current list is better, but what do I know...

I have Schwindt at #14, and Borgstrom is not in my top 15. I like Schwindt a lot, he's more skilled than some other guys I have ahead of him like Hutsko and Luosto, although those guys may be a little more polished. Luosto jumped a bit in my list with the season he's having right now. I always liked the potential. I have Noel at #11. I have no doubt he will be given a a shot soon, one season of bad luck with injuries shouldnt drop a player.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Ludvig is number eleven.

Again a tie with one vote players, Lindmark gets my vote this time.