HoseEmDown
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So Vasilevskiy finishes 1st team all star and 7th in Hart voting, Fluery not even top 20, yet doesn't win the Vezina.
So Vasilevskiy finishes 1st team all star and 7th in Hart voting, Fluery not even top 20, yet doesn't win the Vezina.
Any word on the Lindsay voting results? Wonder if Mcdavid won unanimously by the players vote as well.
Vasilevsky finished 1st in wins, but finished 4th in GAA, SV%, and Shutouts, minimum 30 games played. Fleury was 5 wins behind Vasilevsky but was second in GAA and SV%, and 3rd in Shutouts. There were 3 goalies better than Vasilevsky in every category except 1.This one was definitely a legacy play for an award. It's starting to feel that way, especially with 3 voters leaving Vasilevsky off the ballot completely...
Vasilevsky finished 1st in wins, but finished 4th in GAA, SV%, and Shutouts, minimum 30 games played. Fleury was 5 wins behind Vasilevsky but was second in GAA and SV%, and 3rd in Shutouts. There were 3 goalies better than Vasilevsky in every category except 1.
You know who else doesn't take those numbers into account? The voters. I listed the top 4 categories they look at.Vasilevsky was 2nd in the league in both Goals Saved Above Expected and Goals Saved Above Average. Fleury was 3rd and 4th, respectively. Those numbers you're listing don't take into account how much better Vegas was at suppressing shots than Tampa this year. Vegas was 11th in Expected Goals Against and 13th in High Danger Chances Against, Tampa was 21st and 19th...
2020-21 JIM GREGORY GENERAL MANAGER OF THE YEAR AWARD VOTING
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# GM Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 1Lamoriello Lou NYI 104 12 13 5 2Bergevin Marc MTL 79 13 4 2 3Zito Bill FLA 45 4 6 7 4Sakic Joe COL 41 4 5 6 5Mccrimmon Kelly VGK 40 4 5 5 6Brisebois Julien TB 25 2 4 3 7Guerin Bill MIN 17 1 2 6 8Dubas Kyle TOR 5 1 0 0 9Waddell Don CAR 5 0 1 2 10Cheveldayoff Kevin WPG 3 0 1 0 11Gorton Jeff NYR 2 0 0 2 11Sweeney Don BOS 2 0 0 2 13Dorion Pierre OTT 1 0 0 1
I've always wondered. There's essentially two awards for the best goalie. Vas could literally say I was voted the best goalie in the NHL this season.So Vasilevskiy finishes 1st team all star and 7th in Hart voting, Fluery not even top 20, yet doesn't win the Vezina.
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Team # Players/GMs/Coaches PTS Sum CAR 16 2224COL 22 2167MIN 12 1847EDM 14 1798FLA 10 1751NYR 13 1741VGK 16 1496TOR 13 1451BOS 12 1411TB 10 1329DAL 7 995PIT 8 479OTT 10 323NYI 16 263MTL 6 235STL 5 199CHI 12 184NJ 5 145LA 5 114NSH 9 114ARI 3 100WPG 7 96WAS 7 94CGY 2 82VAN 3 70CLB 1 37PHI 2 34SJ 2 20DET 2 9BUF 1 1ANA 0 0
I’d stunned that Kaprisov over Robertson was nearly unanimous.
Roberston was pacing 49 points in 55 games compared to Kaprisov who got 51 points in 55 games. I would probably give the edge to Kaprisov but he did play on a better team and is older, so I would have guessed that the voting would have been much much closer.
2020-2021 NORRIS TROPHY VOTING
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# Player Team PTS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 1Fox Adam NYR 743 40 34 17 6 2 2Makar Cale COL 655 31 30 22 7 4 3Hedman Victor TB 433 22 12 16 13 10 4Hamilton Dougie CAR 239 1 8 20 21 10 5Mcavoy Charlie BOS 125 2 4 8 10 7 6Theodore Shea VGK 109 2 3 3 12 17 7Nurse Darnell EDM 76 0 3 3 10 10 8Weegar Mackenzie FLA 74 0 3 4 6 15 9Letang Kris PIT 60 1 3 3 2 8 10Chychrun Jakob ARI 50 1 0 3 5 10 11Toews Devon COL 12 0 0 1 2 1 12Carlson John WAS 6 0 0 0 2 0 13Petry Jeff MTL 5 0 0 0 1 2 14Josi Roman NSH 4 0 0 0 1 1 14Slavin Jaccob CAR 4 0 0 0 1 1 16Pesce Brett CAR 3 0 0 0 1 0 17Pelech Adam NYI 1 0 0 0 0 1 17Pulock Ryan NYI 1 0 0 0 0 1
So Vasy gets the first All Star Team over Fleury, but not the Vezina?
I think their logic was more along the lines of how well they dominate the game and not just the production itself, have you seen Kaprisov play? To come into the league and be a highlight reel like that is INSANE.
Well deserved Calder. And Robertson had an amazing year as well.
So 4 GM's didn't have Vas in their top 3..? wow
This one was definitely a legacy play for an award. It's starting to feel that way, especially with 3 voters leaving Vasilevsky off the ballot completely...
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Team # Players/GMs/Coaches PTS Sum CAR 16 2224COL 22 2167MIN 12 1847EDM 14 1798FLA 10 1751NYR 13 1741VGK 16 1496TOR 13 1451BOS 12 1411TB 10 1329DAL 7 995PIT 8 479OTT 10 323NYI 16 263MTL 6 235STL 5 199CHI 12 184NJ 5 145LA 5 114NSH 9 114ARI 3 100WPG 7 96WAS 7 94CGY 2 82VAN 3 70CLB 1 37PHI 2 34SJ 2 20DET 2 9BUF 1 1ANA 0 0
Voting breakdown by sportswriter:
PHWA reveals 2021 NHL Awards ballots – Professional Hockey Writers Association
I don't know who this Seth Rorabaugh is, but his votes are definitely something "different". Did you see his Selke ballot ? Pageau, Brown, Faksa, Couture, Clendening.So it was Seth Rorabaugh that voted Crosby 1st all-star team center.
Interestingly enough, Craig Button was the one who gave Kris Letang a 1st place vote for the Norris.