2019 Stanley Cup Favourite #7

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M2Beezy

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So Boston cleans up #6 bringing up the next team in that tear. Can see people picking Vegas but I think the Sharks have a strong DEEP team going fwd and Deboer seems like a pretty dam good coach. Think theyd get the nod here at 7, anyways...

1 Tampa Bay 56% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-1.2518569/
2 Winnipeg 36% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-2.2519437/
3 Pittsburgh 39% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-nhl-stanley-cup-favourite-3.2520087/
4 Washington 49% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-4.2520405/
5 Nashville 65% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-5.2520917/
6 Boston 37% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-nhl-stanley-cup-favourite-6.2521435/
 

TDK67

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So Boston cleans up #6 bringing up the next team in that tear. Can see people picking Vegas but I think the Sharks have a strong DEEP team going fwd and Deboer seems like a pretty dam good coach. Think theyd get the nod here at 7, anyways...

1 Tampa Bay 56% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-1.2518569/
2 Winnipeg 36% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-2.2519437/
3 Pittsburgh 39% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-nhl-stanley-cup-favourite-3.2520087/
4 Washington 49% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-4.2520405/
5 Nashville 65% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-5.2520917/
6 Boston 37% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-nhl-stanley-cup-favourite-6.2521435/

Lol talk about a 37-36 vote count "cleaning up 6th".

I also don't think you're including enough other cup favorites in the rest of your comment. No mention of NJD, PHI, LAK, CBJ, ANA, MIN or COL? Those are some legitimate options for 7th in addition to SJS & VGK.
 
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M2Beezy

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Lol talk about a 37-36 vote count "cleaning up 6th".

I also don't think you're including enough other cup favorites in the rest of your comment. No mention of NJD, PHI, LAK, CBJ, ANA, MIN or COL? Those are some legitimate options for 7th in addition to SJS & VGK.
True. All those teams should be in the mix with SJ and VGK like you say, then we can look at other teams. But as you see a certain fanbase has and ALWAYS will vote in their team regardless of if makes sense or not, like whats happening with this poll :shakehead
 

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Tough one. A few good choices here. St Louis, Toronto and San Jose. I went with the Blues. I think they made the most major improvements over the off season. Added three really good players to a very deep team.
 

Sidney the Kidney

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This is easily Toronto, the fact they weren't voted top 5 is kind of a joke, this is EASILY Toronto

What makes them so vastly superior to any of Tampa, Winnipeg, Washington, Pittsburgh or Nashville? Three of those teams just finished with more points than them last season, and the two remaining are the Cup champions of the past 3 seasons.
 
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LEAFANFORLIFE23

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What makes them so vastly superior to any of Tampa, Winnipeg, Washington, Pittsburgh or Nashville? Three of those teams just finished with more points than them last season, and the two remaining are the Cup champions of the past 3 seasons.

I'd take them over Nashville now Winnipeg too, and Washington, and they syre as hell shouldn't have finished behind Boston in voting.

This isn't the same Leaf team, John Tavares is a game changer and he was added at no asset cost
 

TDK67

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What makes them so vastly superior to any of Tampa, Winnipeg, Washington, Pittsburgh or Nashville? Three of those teams just finished with more points than them last season, and the two remaining are the Cup champions of the past 3 seasons.

Well Marner's Skittles/60 easily leads the league for one. Then you've got Marleau's 5v5 Dad For rate which is probably Top 5. Now that they've added Tavares' generational Snake% you begin to see how they have a good case for being a Top 5 team overall. The most important thing to note though is that Laine is practically 7 years younger than Matthews and therefore the Leafs need D.
 
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WetcoastOrca

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What makes them so vastly superior to any of Tampa, Winnipeg, Washington, Pittsburgh or Nashville? Three of those teams just finished with more points than them last season, and the two remaining are the Cup champions of the past 3 seasons.
They aren’t vastly superior to any of those teams. People should just cast their vote instead of complaining.
 

Jimmy Firecracker

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True. All those teams should be in the mix with SJ and VGK like you say, then we can look at other teams. But as you see a certain fanbase has and ALWAYS will vote in their team regardless of if makes sense or not to me, like whats happening with this poll :shakehead

FTFY with the bolded. If you had your way Toronto wouldn't be voted in until 25th at the earliest.

Also how come you never responded when I showed you proof that the alleged Leafs brigading that you claim is such a plague had nothing to do with Babcock winning in the coaches poll?
 

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not really. the only one I disagree with is that they should have gone over Boston, although that's not a huge deal

I would agree, but I don’t think it’s clear cut. Bjork was a better prospect than DeBrusk or Heinen before he got hurt last year and Donato might be the best of the 4. For a team looking for more depth of offense, just what the doctor ordered. Obviously, adding Tavares is huge but Leafs lost a lot of offense from the third line, too. Can’t wait for October.
 

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I'd take them over Nashville now Winnipeg too, and Washington, and they syre as hell shouldn't have finished behind Boston in voting.

This isn't the same Leaf team, John Tavares is a game changer and he was added at no asset cost

you did lose a few players to, so now you have a very unproven bottom 6. It's unlikely that every piece down there is gonna go exactly as you want.
 

Critical13

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So Boston cleans up #6 bringing up the next team in that tear. Can see people picking Vegas but I think the Sharks have a strong DEEP team going fwd and Deboer seems like a pretty dam good coach. Think theyd get the nod here at 7, anyways...

1 Tampa Bay 56% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-1.2518569/
2 Winnipeg 36% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-2.2519437/
3 Pittsburgh 39% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-nhl-stanley-cup-favourite-3.2520087/
4 Washington 49% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-4.2520405/
5 Nashville 65% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-stanley-cup-favourite-5.2520917/
6 Boston 37% https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/2019-nhl-stanley-cup-favourite-6.2521435/

It's hard for me to take your opinion seriously after seeing how you ranked 1st overalls in another thread:

1 C. McDavid 2015
2 P. Kane 2007
3 A. Ovechkin 2004
4 S. Crosby 2005

5 J. Tavares 2009
6 A. Ekblad 2014
7 S. Stamkos 2008
8 T. Hall 2010
9 N. Mackinnon 2013
10 R. Nugent-Hopkins 2012
11 M.A. Fleury 2003
12 R. Nash 2002
13 N. Yakupov 2012
14 E. Johnson 2006
15 R. Dipietro 2000
16 I. Kovalchuck 2001
 
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TDK67

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They have won 1 playoff series in the last 13 years, which was 6 years ago. Of course it's a joke that they aren't in the top 5 though.

Good point. This Leafs core has over a decade of failure to their name. Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc didn't help the Leafs win any playoff games or series when they were ~8 years old so I don't see why that would be different moving forward.
 

Critical13

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They have won 1 playoff series in the last 13 years, which was 6 years ago. Of course it's a joke that they aren't in the top 5 though.

Funny, people said the same thing about Winnipeg last year.

It's almost like the success of previous teams full of players who have retired has no bearing on the future. Strange, eh?

They added a star for NOTHING, John Tavares is a game changer

Embrace the underdog mentality. I didn't think HF boards would be so kind to give us it this year, but if they are, we should embrace it. I hope we fall to 10-15, it will make things even more sweet when we are successful this year.
 
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TDK67

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Funny, people said the same thing about Winnipeg last year.

It's almost like the success of previous teams full of players who have retired has no bearing on the future. Strange, eh?



Embrace the underdog mentality. I didn't think HF boards would be so kind to give us it this year, but if they are, we should embrace it. I hope we fall to 10-15, it will make things even more sweet when we are successful this year.



Don't sweat OP's opinion, @Etteduag ot Reseob has some of the work hot takes on this forum. He posts for reaction not discussion.

Oh most definitely. Ultimately don't care but it is fun to point out the not-so-subtle bias in their post and others.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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you did lose a few players to, so now you have a very unproven bottom 6. It's unlikely that every piece down there is gonna go exactly as you want.

If you think about it what did they really lose?

JVR? sure but they replaced his offense with John Tavares that's an upgrade.

Bozak? Again they got John Tavares which means Kadri takes Bozak's spot as #3 center that's 3 30 goal centers, that's a BIG internal upgrade.

Komarov and Martin? love them both especially Komarov but they are both declining Kapanen and Johnsson won't have to do much to be an upgrade
 

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"Embrace the underdog mentality"

Farthest thing away from underdog mentality. :laugh: We've been hearing for 4 weeks now how dominate the Leafs are going to be this year, and how they are going to blow every team out of the water.
 
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um

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If you think about it what did they really lose?

JVR? sure but they replaced his offense with John Tavares that's an upgrade.

Bozak? Again they got John Tavares which means Kadri takes Bozak's spot as #3 center that's 3 30 goal centers, that's a BIG internal upgrade.

Komarov and Martin? love them both especially Komarov but they are both declining Kapanen and Johnsson won't have to do much to be an upgrade

Komarov and Martin won't be big loses I agree with that. Tavares is obviously a big upgrade over Bozak. However you have two rookies you are counting on big time in Johnsson and Kapanen, I doubt either of them will come close to JVR's production. It's a wait a see scenario how your third and forth line work out, and I'm sure there will be letdowns and guys that step up as well.
 
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