NFL: 2019 NFL off-season news & notes discussion thread

[Marc the Habs Fan]

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[spintheblackcircle]

Daily Mail and all...but...

 

[GKJ]

That doesn’t sound like a feasible situation. I could see them playing 2 there though.

If they want to put a team in London, at some point they’re going to have to test a team making the trip twice.

 

[Riggins]

Jags and Fournette may be headed for a divorce. Coughlin publicly ripped him today for his behavior on the sidelines, apparently him and Yeldon were sitting on the bench acting like they didn't give a rip. Coughlin is the guy responsible for that botched pick though. Anyone want a banged up RB who will play half the games with a career 3.7 YPC?

 

[GKJ]

Jags and Fournette may be headed for a divorce. Coughlin publicly ripped him today for his behavior on the sidelines, apparently him and Yeldon were sitting on the bench acting like they didn't give a rip. Coughlin is the guy responsible for that botched pick though. Anyone want a banged up RB who will play half the games with a career 3.7 YPC?

Fournette for Carr.

 

[GKJ]

 

[ArchAngel55]

Way to burn a bridge. They really should have taken a QB looking back now.

 

[GKJ]

Way to burn a bridge. They really should have taken a QB looking back now.

Yeah, well, if everyone knew how good or bad quarterbacks are there wouldn’t be any good or bad teams.

 

[m9]

Fournette was a bad pick at the time, especially with rumors that the Jaguars liked Watson.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I assume just will be around thru camp given they extended Barkley as well a few weeks back and have Allen

Unless Bills plan to carry 3 QB's again next season (If I was coach I would carry 3 not 2)

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

I don't know what the Vikings do from here. They're in a tough situation. Cause they have talent, but just consistently underachieve and can't find a QB. I understood why they signed Cousins, but was very indifferent to it at the time. When the scheduled came out I predicted 9-7 and they finished 8-7-1. I think I predicted every game correctly besides the Eagles and Bills games (and the tie, I had that as a toss up) which just cancelled each other out. I wanna hope someone is dumb enough to trade for Cousins, but then who's your QB next year? And he has a NTC anyway. So it'll be status quo and they'll tread water next year go 8-8/9-7 again and then the moves will happen.

I love Zimmer's old school no-nonsense mentality but that coupled with him being a defensive minded coach just doesn't work in today's NFL. Rick Spielman also has run his course. He's done some good things, but also continually flops at finding QBs (Teddy was a tough break, but Ponder was his guy, the Bradford trade was terrible the moment it happened, now Cousins), neglects the OL, and wastes draft picks on specialists (Walsh, Locke, Carlson). He's been here since 06. Has had some say in personell since 07, full control since 2012 and nothing has changed. 2 of the last 3 years they've wasted 1st round picks. Treadwell in 16 and then trading the 17 pick for Bradford. No one pops into my head immediately even with the benefit of hindsight they could have used those picks on but it's just the point of it.

At the end of the day it's been nearly 60 years and it's the shame shit every year with that franchise no matter who the coach, gm or players are. Even Bud Grant and Tarkenton couldn't get it done.

 

[GKJ]

The issue with the Bradford trade was allowing himself to get bent over the way he did more-so than bringing in Bradford himself.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Jags and Fournette may be headed for a divorce. Coughlin publicly ripped him today for his behavior on the sidelines, apparently him and Yeldon were sitting on the bench acting like they didn't give a rip. Coughlin is the guy responsible for that botched pick though. Anyone want a banged up RB who will play half the games with a career 3.7 YPC?

It's easy to stack the box when the qb and ol can't do shit. No one runs well in Jacksonville.

Fournette is hardly the only issue there. That whole team needs an overhaul.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Fournette did himself no favors coming to camp out of shape and overweight.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Sources: Antonio Brown missed practices, game after dispute with teammate

Steelers receiver Antonio Brown did not play in the season-ending gameagainst the Cincinnati Bengals because he elected to sit out practice last week after an unspecified heated dispute with a teammate, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has learned.

He did not attend Saturday’s walk-through practice and skipped the Saturday night meeting at the team hotel — the latest in missed meetings by the All-Pro receiver. Brown was never on the field for the start of the game against the Bengals and left Heinz Field at halftime, according to multiple sources.

According to several sources, Brown showed up at Heinz Field expecting to play against the Bengals. That surprised several players, including one who called the situation “embarrassing” and “the worst I’ve seen.” That player said the entire situation and the way it was handled affected his desire to play in the game.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

If the Steelers fired Tomlin, the OC, or the QB coach, Ben would retire. If AB is still under contract, he needs to be traded.

 

[m9]

Just to add, Brown's dispute was apparently with Ben.

Ben went a bit heavy talking up Juju as the Team MVP and it wouldn't surprise me if Brown wasn't a fan of those comments.

We're in an era of the top WRs for awhile being great teammates (Calvin, Fitz, Julio, etc) but Brown is definitely a throwback to the TO/Moss era.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Reason #345 that Tomlin has to be on the hot seat. Zero control of the players time & time again. And I'm sorry, but I doubt Big Ben retires if Tomlin gets canned......I don't think Big Ben has all that much love for Tomlin at this point in time.

 

[Roboturner913]

I don't know what the Vikings do from here. They're in a tough situation. Cause they have talent, but just consistently underachieve and can't find a QB. I understood why they signed Cousins, but was very indifferent to it at the time. When the scheduled came out I predicted 9-7 and they finished 8-7-1. I think I predicted every game correctly besides the Eagles and Bills games (and the tie, I had that as a toss up) which just cancelled each other out. I wanna hope someone is dumb enough to trade for Cousins, but then who's your QB next year? And he has a NTC anyway. So it'll be status quo and they'll tread water next year go 8-8/9-7 again and then the moves will happen.

I love Zimmer's old school no-nonsense mentality but that coupled with him being a defensive minded coach just doesn't work in today's NFL. Rick Spielman also has run his course. He's done some good things, but also continually flops at finding QBs (Teddy was a tough break, but Ponder was his guy, the Bradford trade was terrible the moment it happened, now Cousins), neglects the OL, and wastes draft picks on specialists (Walsh, Locke, Carlson). He's been here since 06. Has had some say in personell since 07, full control since 2012 and nothing has changed. 2 of the last 3 years they've wasted 1st round picks. Treadwell in 16 and then trading the 17 pick for Bradford. No one pops into my head immediately even with the benefit of hindsight they could have used those picks on but it's just the point of it.

At the end of the day it's been nearly 60 years and it's the shame **** every year with that franchise no matter who the coach, gm or players are. Even Bud Grant and Tarkenton couldn't get it done.

They need to become a blue collar offense. Cousins can't be counted on to win games when it comes right down to it. Run the hell out of the ball, play good defense, make safe, smart throws to your excellent WRs and TEs and they should at least be a playoff team. The thing is, they have all the pieces, with the maybe exception of the OL, but that could be fixed easily in one offseason.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Reason #345 that Tomlin has to be on the hot seat. Zero control of the players time & time again. And I'm sorry, but I doubt Big Ben retires if Tomlin gets canned......I don't think Big Ben has all that much love for Tomlin at this point in time.

Also he enabled this behavior if part about him skipping mandatory meeting week before and still playing with no punishment is true

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Antonio Brown didn't play. I side with him anyway because Roethlisberger is a piece of shit that seems to always be at the heart of these issues. Y'all can stay caping for him like the media does though.

 

[Bob Richards]

Ben sucks so bad that I can't possibly believe some kind of skirmish wasn't at least partially his fault.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Antonio Brown didn't play. I side with him anyway because Roethlisberger is a piece of **** that seems to always be at the heart of these issues. Y'all can stay caping for him like the media does though.

I know you have issues with Big Ben & you & I will never agree on that, but that said, this was the biggest game of the year for the Steelers as far as needing it to win to have a shot at the playoffs. I don't care what issue AB has with Ben, you put the TEAM first in a situation like this & suck it up & go to practice/meetings & play the game at 100% like a good teammate should do.

 

[Roboturner913]

Madden curse!